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		<title>By: jcss</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2008/10/5d-mark-ii-price-increase-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-2444</link>
		<dc:creator>jcss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 03:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS

Canon is turning into another Bell....</description>
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<p>Canon is turning into another Bell&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jcss</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2008/10/5d-mark-ii-price-increase-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-2428</link>
		<dc:creator>jcss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hope you didn&#039;t all pay the priceincrease

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hope you didn&#8217;t all pay the priceincrease</p>
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		<title>By: jcss</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2008/10/5d-mark-ii-price-increase-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>jcss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not let them steal your money and your integrity - you owe it to yourself not to allow them to walk all over you and enable them to believe they can continue to do this - if you do not stand up to this you are probably jsut taking the easy way out - in the end an irresponsible and selfish thing to do...

Demand they honour the original price, never cancel the pre-order under no circumstance s- you ca either leave it open undelievered and in breach of contract or you can pay the levy and then submit to small claims the preorder sales receipt with the deposit stub (my credit card transactoin proof) and the n the delivery receipt - proof you have been wronged legally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not let them steal your money and your integrity &#8211; you owe it to yourself not to allow them to walk all over you and enable them to believe they can continue to do this &#8211; if you do not stand up to this you are probably jsut taking the easy way out &#8211; in the end an irresponsible and selfish thing to do&#8230;</p>
<p>Demand they honour the original price, never cancel the pre-order under no circumstance s- you ca either leave it open undelievered and in breach of contract or you can pay the levy and then submit to small claims the preorder sales receipt with the deposit stub (my credit card transactoin proof) and the n the delivery receipt &#8211; proof you have been wronged legally.</p>
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		<title>By: jcss</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2008/10/5d-mark-ii-price-increase-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-580</link>
		<dc:creator>jcss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Charles Rob is right - the issue is contract agreement - All I have to do is how the original sales order with no disclaimers on price changes, that enacted a deposit from my credit card at the time of order, couple that wil a bill of final sale for the new price and voila Canon and the co-conspirator authorized reseller owes me the difference, I exit stage left with my money and they fight out who owes who bewteen themselves, I think Canon would playt he heavy and screw the reseller for fear of not supplying them.

Also - follow this one:
-Canon Canada has a corporate and consumer division
-both are urn by the same management at the top of the food chain
-both divisions of canon Canada have use of the same lawyers?
-both are not ignorant of what the other is doing - yet
the corporate division (rep i spoke to directly - consumer rep stopped answering the phone the day the increase occurred - i spoke to him the day before) was surprised to learn my invoice from an authorized reseller for a consumer product did not have a price increase disclaimer - it is legally required to avoid this exact issue
- Canon is aware of ordering things at futures prices -

I believe Canon Canada has received delivery of stock at the prices they previoiusly agreed upon from their international supplier (US) and are needlessly (because it is not costing them more) increasing the price to us for unrelated reasons - merely to increase profit fo rhteir own benefit, and are scapegoating the economic conditoins as a cover to effectively steal (by using the unfair advantage of their psotion to gain the upper hand - illegal) an additional $300.  not because it costs them more, but because we are willing to pay it

then they are confusing the issues further by citing the legality of a disclaimer they failed to have the authorized resellers employ, my receipt says nothing about price increases - i depositsed to gaurantee delivery at an agreed upon price.

Do you think they all got just a little too excited at the potential profitability and forgot to cover their rears if that is what is normally done in the corporate side (if economy truly  is an issue) or ..... or are they just on crack to think Canadian&#039;s would do nothing about Canon&#039;s  attempt to break a contractual obligation
(or is it the reseller&#039;s obligaiton or both - who is driving this - they were all excited when the initial response was good to pre-orders motnhs ago)



In the end the polite &quot;f&quot; you attitude inthe response letter to Rob at http://stoppriceincrease.blogspot.com/
(where the contractual implications were ignored and the issues weer not addressed - avoided)

shows you
HOW LITTLE RESPECT CANON HAS FOR THEIR WORD, THEIR MOST LOYAL PHOTOGRAPHERS, AND CANADA IN GENERAL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Charles Rob is right &#8211; the issue is contract agreement &#8211; All I have to do is how the original sales order with no disclaimers on price changes, that enacted a deposit from my credit card at the time of order, couple that wil a bill of final sale for the new price and voila Canon and the co-conspirator authorized reseller owes me the difference, I exit stage left with my money and they fight out who owes who bewteen themselves, I think Canon would playt he heavy and screw the reseller for fear of not supplying them.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; follow this one:<br />
-Canon Canada has a corporate and consumer division<br />
-both are urn by the same management at the top of the food chain<br />
-both divisions of canon Canada have use of the same lawyers?<br />
-both are not ignorant of what the other is doing &#8211; yet<br />
the corporate division (rep i spoke to directly &#8211; consumer rep stopped answering the phone the day the increase occurred &#8211; i spoke to him the day before) was surprised to learn my invoice from an authorized reseller for a consumer product did not have a price increase disclaimer &#8211; it is legally required to avoid this exact issue<br />
- Canon is aware of ordering things at futures prices -</p>
<p>I believe Canon Canada has received delivery of stock at the prices they previoiusly agreed upon from their international supplier (US) and are needlessly (because it is not costing them more) increasing the price to us for unrelated reasons &#8211; merely to increase profit fo rhteir own benefit, and are scapegoating the economic conditoins as a cover to effectively steal (by using the unfair advantage of their psotion to gain the upper hand &#8211; illegal) an additional $300.  not because it costs them more, but because we are willing to pay it</p>
<p>then they are confusing the issues further by citing the legality of a disclaimer they failed to have the authorized resellers employ, my receipt says nothing about price increases &#8211; i depositsed to gaurantee delivery at an agreed upon price.</p>
<p>Do you think they all got just a little too excited at the potential profitability and forgot to cover their rears if that is what is normally done in the corporate side (if economy truly  is an issue) or &#8230;.. or are they just on crack to think Canadian&#8217;s would do nothing about Canon&#8217;s  attempt to break a contractual obligation<br />
(or is it the reseller&#8217;s obligaiton or both &#8211; who is driving this &#8211; they were all excited when the initial response was good to pre-orders motnhs ago)</p>
<p>In the end the polite &#8220;f&#8221; you attitude inthe response letter to Rob at <a href="http://stoppriceincrease.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://stoppriceincrease.blogspot.com/</a><br />
(where the contractual implications were ignored and the issues weer not addressed &#8211; avoided)</p>
<p>shows you<br />
HOW LITTLE RESPECT CANON HAS FOR THEIR WORD, THEIR MOST LOYAL PHOTOGRAPHERS, AND CANADA IN GENERAL.</p>
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		<title>By: aerden</title>
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		<dc:creator>aerden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just got to know from a little bird that Canon malaysia will increase the price and delay till end dec 08 or jan 09. the thing about Canon malaysia is it did not declare the price when it was launched. it says it will be a special price for those pre-book early birds. now it&#039;s not so special anymore i guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just got to know from a little bird that Canon malaysia will increase the price and delay till end dec 08 or jan 09. the thing about Canon malaysia is it did not declare the price when it was launched. it says it will be a special price for those pre-book early birds. now it&#8217;s not so special anymore i guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2008/10/5d-mark-ii-price-increase-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles this case is as easy as individual customers taking their specific distributors to small claims court. Customers can represent themselves and if they end up losing they won&#039;t be forced to pay the legal fees of the distributor. It would be a nightmare for Vistek and Henry&#039;s to be facing hundreds of small claims courts cases, but it wouldn&#039;t be too much work at all for the customers who take them there.

Try to narrow your perspective on what the issue is here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles this case is as easy as individual customers taking their specific distributors to small claims court. Customers can represent themselves and if they end up losing they won&#8217;t be forced to pay the legal fees of the distributor. It would be a nightmare for Vistek and Henry&#8217;s to be facing hundreds of small claims courts cases, but it wouldn&#8217;t be too much work at all for the customers who take them there.</p>
<p>Try to narrow your perspective on what the issue is here.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Class action lawsuits will not work, as the cost would involve testimony from monetary experts qualified to render expert knowledge of international money markets.

Unless you are qualified as having expert knowledge in this very specialized area, it could cost a great deal more than the additional cost of price increase on a camera or lens.

This is about more than just one company - &quot;Canon&quot;, or corporate greed. The depreciation of world money markets will eventually encompass all suppliers of advanced digital
and electronic systems.  Adjustments will be made - you will pay more or do without, on more than just DSLR&#039;s.

I understand the frustration on your &quot;dream DSLR acquisition&quot; - try to broaden your perspective to what is really going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Class action lawsuits will not work, as the cost would involve testimony from monetary experts qualified to render expert knowledge of international money markets.</p>
<p>Unless you are qualified as having expert knowledge in this very specialized area, it could cost a great deal more than the additional cost of price increase on a camera or lens.</p>
<p>This is about more than just one company &#8211; &#8220;Canon&#8221;, or corporate greed. The depreciation of world money markets will eventually encompass all suppliers of advanced digital<br />
and electronic systems.  Adjustments will be made &#8211; you will pay more or do without, on more than just DSLR&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I understand the frustration on your &#8220;dream DSLR acquisition&#8221; &#8211; try to broaden your perspective to what is really going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 19:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>class action lawsuit involving all who pre paid against all photo equipment dealers who accepted the prepayment would be the only recourse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>class action lawsuit involving all who pre paid against all photo equipment dealers who accepted the prepayment would be the only recourse</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2008/10/5d-mark-ii-price-increase-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a site needs to be set up to bring more attention to this issue (pre-order price increases). If anyone has any suggestions please bring them forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a site needs to be set up to bring more attention to this issue (pre-order price increases). If anyone has any suggestions please bring them forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2008/10/5d-mark-ii-price-increase-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-569</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone heard from Aden regarding whether or not they will honor the original pricing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone heard from Aden regarding whether or not they will honor the original pricing?</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got the e-mail from my local camera shop saying this,

&quot;We just got notification from Canon that because of the &quot;dramatic change in the market conditions&quot; they have to raise the price of the 5D MarkII. The body only price is now $3099.00 up from $2799.00.
Do you want to keep the order we have for you?&quot;

I just called Henry&#039;s as in an earlier post someone mentioned they will be honoring prices on existing orders.  They are saying now that they won&#039;t for future pre-orders and they are still undecided on existing orders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got the e-mail from my local camera shop saying this,</p>
<p>&#8220;We just got notification from Canon that because of the &#8220;dramatic change in the market conditions&#8221; they have to raise the price of the 5D MarkII. The body only price is now $3099.00 up from $2799.00.<br />
Do you want to keep the order we have for you?&#8221;</p>
<p>I just called Henry&#8217;s as in an earlier post someone mentioned they will be honoring prices on existing orders.  They are saying now that they won&#8217;t for future pre-orders and they are still undecided on existing orders.</p>
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		<title>By: a</title>
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		<dc:creator>a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still no stop button on nikon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still no stop button on nikon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nikon</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2008/10/5d-mark-ii-price-increase-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-566</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the digital camera market is effectively like the computer market (new models every 6 months to 1 year, increasing amounts of processing power, etc), an older camera can still take amazing pictures. Much like with performance cars, the &#039;operator&#039; is a huge factor in performance. If anybody needs proof of this, go to Flickr and see what others are doing with your current, or even your old, camera.  All of this doesn&#039;t negate the desire for new features inside of a nice, new toy...um, tool, of course. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the digital camera market is effectively like the computer market (new models every 6 months to 1 year, increasing amounts of processing power, etc), an older camera can still take amazing pictures. Much like with performance cars, the &#8216;operator&#8217; is a huge factor in performance. If anybody needs proof of this, go to Flickr and see what others are doing with your current, or even your old, camera.  All of this doesn&#8217;t negate the desire for new features inside of a nice, new toy&#8230;um, tool, of course. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: chikabelley</title>
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		<dc:creator>chikabelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know of apple and another big pc company who are raising their laptop prices in Aust. It&#039;s due to exchange rates and to maintain margins.  I assume camera co&#039;s will do the same.

They hope that our demand for their products outweighs our reluctance to buy at higher prices. That might be the case if your laptop dies but for most amateurs with cameras that&#039;s not the case.

If the 5DII goes too much higher I&#039;ll just wait &amp; sit with my current gear until the economy settles or my need outgrows my willpower. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know of apple and another big pc company who are raising their laptop prices in Aust. It&#8217;s due to exchange rates and to maintain margins.  I assume camera co&#8217;s will do the same.</p>
<p>They hope that our demand for their products outweighs our reluctance to buy at higher prices. That might be the case if your laptop dies but for most amateurs with cameras that&#8217;s not the case.</p>
<p>If the 5DII goes too much higher I&#8217;ll just wait &amp; sit with my current gear until the economy settles or my need outgrows my willpower. ;)</p>
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