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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2008/11/canon-canada-the-5d-mark-ii-cr5/comment-page-2/#comment-1069</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought most stores were stationary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought most stores were stationary?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blacks only has 15 orders nationwide on the camera because they are a stationary store. Most professionals order their professional cameras from a professional camera store like Vistek or Henry&#039;s, who both have many hundreds of orders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blacks only has 15 orders nationwide on the camera because they are a stationary store. Most professionals order their professional cameras from a professional camera store like Vistek or Henry&#8217;s, who both have many hundreds of orders.</p>
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		<title>By: [exclusivit</title>
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		<dc:creator>[exclusivit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] par Bob-74   Que ce passe t&#039;il au Canada en ce moment ?      Canon Rumors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] par Bob-74   Que ce passe t&#8217;il au Canada en ce moment ?      Canon Rumors</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great,

maybe I&#039;ll have one after all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great,</p>
<p>maybe I&#8217;ll have one after all</p>
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		<title>By: [exclusivit</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2008/11/canon-canada-the-5d-mark-ii-cr5/comment-page-2/#comment-1065</link>
		<dc:creator>[exclusivit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] par Bob-74   Que ce passe t&#039;il au Canada en ce moment ?      Canon Rumors</description>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Keener,

This also echos the feedback i&#039;ve gotten from retailler here in Quebec.  When asking around, I was told they expected unit to sit on the shelves as they did not sell all their allotment in pre-orders.  One store also mentionned some people cancelled their pre-orders before and after the price went up.  As far as dates, I was told in the next week but that Canon was not very reliable with dates...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Keener,</p>
<p>This also echos the feedback i&#8217;ve gotten from retailler here in Quebec.  When asking around, I was told they expected unit to sit on the shelves as they did not sell all their allotment in pre-orders.  One store also mentionned some people cancelled their pre-orders before and after the price went up.  As far as dates, I was told in the next week but that Canon was not very reliable with dates&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The continuing saga of pre-orders..

Okay, so I had a chance to hit up a couple of Blacks Photography stores in Calgary over the weekend.  I asked them about how the pre-orders worked and both of them told me the same thing.

&quot;To pre-order you have to give us the full price of the camera.  You are effectively buying the camera from the warehouse, right then and there (at whatever price it is listed at), and are just waiting for it to be delivered to you.  This means we can not charge you more later.&quot;

in one store they looked up the camera in their system and apparently, Blacks Photography (Canada wide) has 25 on order, and only 15 people so far have taken advantage of pre-orders.  I thought that was an insanely low number, but then I rationalized it.  Not a heck of a lot of people are going to drop that kind of money on something they&#039;re unsure about.  That is, is it any good? when is it coming? etc..  In most cases, a pre-order is just a name on a list, and most sane people would rather just put their name on a list, or put a small deposit, rather than paying for the whole thing outright.

I guess the ironic thing is, the somewhat insane act of paying that kind of money for something that has a huge question mark over it might actually pay off this time around, as (it seems) Canon is only shipping to people who have pre-orders with money already attached to it.

Just thought I&#039;d share my story.

P.S.  I would like to thank Canon Rumors for my (hopefully) cheap 5D MarkII!  Reading this forum tipped me to the price increase, and prompted me to order with blacks because they still had the old price listed when everyone else had already jacked up their prices.  Blacks raised their prices the very next day.  Of course, I was taking a gamble and actually thinking that blacks would probably end up charging me more in the end, but hopefully the gamble pays off.

K.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The continuing saga of pre-orders..</p>
<p>Okay, so I had a chance to hit up a couple of Blacks Photography stores in Calgary over the weekend.  I asked them about how the pre-orders worked and both of them told me the same thing.</p>
<p>&#8220;To pre-order you have to give us the full price of the camera.  You are effectively buying the camera from the warehouse, right then and there (at whatever price it is listed at), and are just waiting for it to be delivered to you.  This means we can not charge you more later.&#8221;</p>
<p>in one store they looked up the camera in their system and apparently, Blacks Photography (Canada wide) has 25 on order, and only 15 people so far have taken advantage of pre-orders.  I thought that was an insanely low number, but then I rationalized it.  Not a heck of a lot of people are going to drop that kind of money on something they&#8217;re unsure about.  That is, is it any good? when is it coming? etc..  In most cases, a pre-order is just a name on a list, and most sane people would rather just put their name on a list, or put a small deposit, rather than paying for the whole thing outright.</p>
<p>I guess the ironic thing is, the somewhat insane act of paying that kind of money for something that has a huge question mark over it might actually pay off this time around, as (it seems) Canon is only shipping to people who have pre-orders with money already attached to it.</p>
<p>Just thought I&#8217;d share my story.</p>
<p>P.S.  I would like to thank Canon Rumors for my (hopefully) cheap 5D MarkII!  Reading this forum tipped me to the price increase, and prompted me to order with blacks because they still had the old price listed when everyone else had already jacked up their prices.  Blacks raised their prices the very next day.  Of course, I was taking a gamble and actually thinking that blacks would probably end up charging me more in the end, but hopefully the gamble pays off.</p>
<p>K.</p>
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		<title>By: hex</title>
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		<dc:creator>hex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the reports state that retail sales have been the lowest so far in october. with recession showing no sign of letting up either canon is just trying to squeeze the most out of its customers or plainly shooting themselves in the foot.
if it really is the case and they don&#039;t send cameras to stores unless people pre-order, i&#039;m definitely switching to nikon, already got plenty of people interested in my canon equipment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the reports state that retail sales have been the lowest so far in october. with recession showing no sign of letting up either canon is just trying to squeeze the most out of its customers or plainly shooting themselves in the foot.<br />
if it really is the case and they don&#8217;t send cameras to stores unless people pre-order, i&#8217;m definitely switching to nikon, already got plenty of people interested in my canon equipment.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t had the camera all that long, so far it&#039;s incredible, IQ is beyond my expectations. ISO performance as expected, you will be amazed.

My launch date is when I actually have stocked cameras to sell. Who knows when that may be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t had the camera all that long, so far it&#8217;s incredible, IQ is beyond my expectations. ISO performance as expected, you will be amazed.</p>
<p>My launch date is when I actually have stocked cameras to sell. Who knows when that may be?</p>
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		<title>By: shuelin</title>
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		<dc:creator>shuelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fred along with your impressions when is your launch date</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fred along with your impressions when is your launch date</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey fred,

can you tell us your impressions? ie. iso performance, IQ etc...

appreciated

cheers

ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey fred,</p>
<p>can you tell us your impressions? ie. iso performance, IQ etc&#8230;</p>
<p>appreciated</p>
<p>cheers</p>
<p>ian</p>
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		<title>By: Zerogravity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zerogravity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking about this &quot;funny&quot; releasing from Canon.
First of all I am waiting for 5D update since 2006. At this time even consumer level DSLRs had cleaning sensor feature and better LCD.... And after 2007 I am also expecting more megapixels... Now having this circus and marketing tricks fallen on us I get fed up. I realize that all is just philosophy of fear - If you don&#039;t preorder no mark II. no camera for you for long time! If you don&#039;t pay deposit no camera for you for very long time! If you don&#039;t buy L Canon lenses now Canon is probably planning same price increase like Nikon (Nikon stuff in Canada is getting more expensive since 17 Nov. 2008).
Guys who are pulling this shit doesn&#039;t realize that economy is really falling down and everything is actually on discount. I just watch TV news and they were showing retailers doing discounts same like boxing day! Fuck of Canon and Nikon go to hell, keep your fear manners and you will fail once first wave of blinded customers go away you will feel real crisis same like all other companies and real estate agents. Than you will have to lower the prices and deliver your product on time for the first time no delays and funny price increases!!!
If people has no money for rent and payments no Camera equipment will be sold at least not in the same quantities like now. Your philosophy of fear doesn&#039;t work for me and I make sure to pass my view on this matter as further I can.
Camera store will not have 5D mark II for me when I need it or I don&#039;t like the price - I will survive without it.
And Nikon and all other camera makers are only happy to see Canon failing their promises and bring better product for reasonable price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about this &#8220;funny&#8221; releasing from Canon.<br />
First of all I am waiting for 5D update since 2006. At this time even consumer level DSLRs had cleaning sensor feature and better LCD&#8230;. And after 2007 I am also expecting more megapixels&#8230; Now having this circus and marketing tricks fallen on us I get fed up. I realize that all is just philosophy of fear &#8211; If you don&#8217;t preorder no mark II. no camera for you for long time! If you don&#8217;t pay deposit no camera for you for very long time! If you don&#8217;t buy L Canon lenses now Canon is probably planning same price increase like Nikon (Nikon stuff in Canada is getting more expensive since 17 Nov. 2008).<br />
Guys who are pulling this shit doesn&#8217;t realize that economy is really falling down and everything is actually on discount. I just watch TV news and they were showing retailers doing discounts same like boxing day! Fuck of Canon and Nikon go to hell, keep your fear manners and you will fail once first wave of blinded customers go away you will feel real crisis same like all other companies and real estate agents. Than you will have to lower the prices and deliver your product on time for the first time no delays and funny price increases!!!<br />
If people has no money for rent and payments no Camera equipment will be sold at least not in the same quantities like now. Your philosophy of fear doesn&#8217;t work for me and I make sure to pass my view on this matter as further I can.<br />
Camera store will not have 5D mark II for me when I need it or I don&#8217;t like the price &#8211; I will survive without it.<br />
And Nikon and all other camera makers are only happy to see Canon failing their promises and bring better product for reasonable price.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Canon dealer I finally recieved one. This is a store sample, yet not considered a pre-production model. Beautful camera and the video is fantastic.

I have been asked to keep the camera behind doors till the launch date.

This is simply incredible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Canon dealer I finally recieved one. This is a store sample, yet not considered a pre-production model. Beautful camera and the video is fantastic.</p>
<p>I have been asked to keep the camera behind doors till the launch date.</p>
<p>This is simply incredible.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing I can see happening for blacks is that they will either be forced to take a loss of the camera (selling it for less than or equal to what they pay Canon) OR Canon may have told them they won&#039;t get any pre-order stock until other stores (who were forced to pay the $300) have their pre-orders filled.

If Blacks manages to give customers the Camera on time at the cheaper (or rather even further discounted price) then I will definitely be switching camera stores!

@ Ian - Yes right now potential lack of inventory is hype. If they can&#039;t deliver on time that hype will be converted into an extreme disappointment that Canon was retarded about properly estimating demand. But with the way they have handled the price increase I would bet that Canon is retarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing I can see happening for blacks is that they will either be forced to take a loss of the camera (selling it for less than or equal to what they pay Canon) OR Canon may have told them they won&#8217;t get any pre-order stock until other stores (who were forced to pay the $300) have their pre-orders filled.</p>
<p>If Blacks manages to give customers the Camera on time at the cheaper (or rather even further discounted price) then I will definitely be switching camera stores!</p>
<p>@ Ian &#8211; Yes right now potential lack of inventory is hype. If they can&#8217;t deliver on time that hype will be converted into an extreme disappointment that Canon was retarded about properly estimating demand. But with the way they have handled the price increase I would bet that Canon is retarded.</p>
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