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	<title>Comments on: TS-E 17 f/4L &amp; TS-E 24 f/3.5L II Official</title>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice but Canon still refuses to provide a circular EF fisheye lens. Remember superb FD series still the best of all even no compare with often breakdown and weak warranty on EF lenses. Canon tends to limit time for replacement parts available limited to two years. They made a serious mistake to increase rear element surface to film plane with 44mm to make FD series lenses incompatibility with 42mm. Let support Nikon and Nikkor lenses because they always compatible from F Photomic to present camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice but Canon still refuses to provide a circular EF fisheye lens. Remember superb FD series still the best of all even no compare with often breakdown and weak warranty on EF lenses. Canon tends to limit time for replacement parts available limited to two years. They made a serious mistake to increase rear element surface to film plane with 44mm to make FD series lenses incompatibility with 42mm. Let support Nikon and Nikkor lenses because they always compatible from F Photomic to present camera.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance the 45 &amp; 90 TS&#039;s will be updated anytime soon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any chance the 45 &amp; 90 TS&#8217;s will be updated anytime soon?</p>
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		<title>By: brian44</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The price is ridiculous. Maybe I&#039;ll go back to 5x4 velvia for architecture!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The price is ridiculous. Maybe I&#8217;ll go back to 5&#215;4 velvia for architecture!</p>
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		<title>By: hkdigit</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/02/ts-e-17-f4l-ts-e-24-f35l-ii-official/comment-page-1/#comment-5160</link>
		<dc:creator>hkdigit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awaiting test report for 17mm ^_^</description>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Specifically, here is what the hype says.

An innovative feature on both the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II and the TS-E 17mm f/4L lenses is Canon&#039;s new TS Revolving System. This feature allows tilting and shifting lens movements to be adjusted in parallel or at right angles to each other, with detents at 45Ã‹Å¡ intervals. Additionally, once the TS Revolving System has been set, the orientation of the entire lens can be rotated freely through a range of Ã‚Â±90Ã‹Å¡, with detents at 30Ã‹Å¡ intervals. The amount of tilt is Ã‚Â±8.5Ã‹Å¡ for the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II and Ã‚Â±6.5Ã‹Å¡ for the TS-E 17mm f/4L. The amount of shift is Ã‚Â±12mm for both lenses. The image circle diameter for both lenses is an impressive 67.2mm. (The diagonal measurement of the full-frame 35mm format is only 43.2mm.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specifically, here is what the hype says.</p>
<p>An innovative feature on both the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II and the TS-E 17mm f/4L lenses is Canon&#8217;s new TS Revolving System. This feature allows tilting and shifting lens movements to be adjusted in parallel or at right angles to each other, with detents at 45Ã‹Å¡ intervals. Additionally, once the TS Revolving System has been set, the orientation of the entire lens can be rotated freely through a range of Ã‚Â±90Ã‹Å¡, with detents at 30Ã‹Å¡ intervals. The amount of tilt is Ã‚Â±8.5Ã‹Å¡ for the TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II and Ã‚Â±6.5Ã‹Å¡ for the TS-E 17mm f/4L. The amount of shift is Ã‚Â±12mm for both lenses. The image circle diameter for both lenses is an impressive 67.2mm. (The diagonal measurement of the full-frame 35mm format is only 43.2mm.)</p>
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		<title>By: hulk</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/02/ts-e-17-f4l-ts-e-24-f35l-ii-official/comment-page-1/#comment-5055</link>
		<dc:creator>hulk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re right, I missed that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re right, I missed that point.</p>
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		<title>By: axio</title>
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		<dc:creator>axio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm...
I think you are confusing the tilt angle with the rotating angle

Traditionally the TS-E have their shift and tilt axes fixed in a perpendicular (90Ã‚Â°) or parallel (0Ã‚Â°), but not freely adjustable.

The statements above seem to indicate that they are freely moveable now, and also observe that there is a little lever near the mount on the pictures. That seems to be the rotating lock for the added rotation.

So.. my Hartblei isn&#039;t that unique of a rotator anymore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm&#8230;<br />
I think you are confusing the tilt angle with the rotating angle</p>
<p>Traditionally the TS-E have their shift and tilt axes fixed in a perpendicular (90Ã‚Â°) or parallel (0Ã‚Â°), but not freely adjustable.</p>
<p>The statements above seem to indicate that they are freely moveable now, and also observe that there is a little lever near the mount on the pictures. That seems to be the rotating lock for the added rotation.</p>
<p>So.. my Hartblei isn&#8217;t that unique of a rotator anymore</p>
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		<title>By: hulk</title>
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		<dc:creator>hulk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the &quot;-/+ 90Ã‚Â°&quot; statement is some marketing BS.
The real workable angles seems to be respectively 6.5Ã‚Â° and 8.5Ã‚Â° for the 17 and 24mm lenses.
Super Rotator is 8Ã‚Â°, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the &#8220;-/+ 90Ã‚Â°&#8221; statement is some marketing BS.<br />
The real workable angles seems to be respectively 6.5Ã‚Â° and 8.5Ã‚Â° for the 17 and 24mm lenses.<br />
Super Rotator is 8Ã‚Â°, right?</p>
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		<title>By: rebel</title>
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		<dc:creator>rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what about new rebel/500D today? any chance itÃ‚Â´s still coming? (maybe next days/weeks)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about new rebel/500D today? any chance itÃ‚Â´s still coming? (maybe next days/weeks)?</p>
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		<title>By: axio</title>
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		<dc:creator>axio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># Tilt and shift mechanism rotates +/-90Ã‚Â° allowing shift in any direction
# Tilt mechanism rotates +/-90Ã‚Â° allowing tilt in any direction relative to the shift

Does that mean I can get rid of my Super Rotator now??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># Tilt and shift mechanism rotates +/-90Ã‚Â° allowing shift in any direction<br />
# Tilt mechanism rotates +/-90Ã‚Â° allowing tilt in any direction relative to the shift</p>
<p>Does that mean I can get rid of my Super Rotator now??</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or a private jet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or a private jet.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnG</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha.....you can also buy lots of sandwiches with that kind of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha&#8230;..you can also buy lots of sandwiches with that kind of money.</p>
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		<title>By: hulk</title>
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		<dc:creator>hulk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for the price, you can get a 5DmkII in Europe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for the price, you can get a 5DmkII in Europe!</p>
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		<title>By: Enjott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Enjott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, but for the price of one of these, you can get a complete 4x5&quot; setup incl. scanner for far superior quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice, but for the price of one of these, you can get a complete 4&#215;5&#8243; setup incl. scanner for far superior quality.</p>
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