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	<title>Comments on: 1D Mark IV Rumors</title>
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		<title>By: Rangefinder Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/04/1d-mark-iv-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-22540</link>
		<dc:creator>Rangefinder Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 06:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with Zac.  Just like Nikon D3/D3X, D2h/D2X--choice of high FPS/low MP or lower FPS/High res.  Two different cameras for two different users/markets.  Like cars--you can use a sedan to deliver sofas, but it&#039;s probably better to use a truck; same with cameras--use the camera to fit the need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Zac.  Just like Nikon D3/D3X, D2h/D2X&#8211;choice of high FPS/low MP or lower FPS/High res.  Two different cameras for two different users/markets.  Like cars&#8211;you can use a sedan to deliver sofas, but it&#8217;s probably better to use a truck; same with cameras&#8211;use the camera to fit the need.</p>
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		<title>By: 1D Mark IV in 2010? [CR2] &#124; Canon Rumors</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/04/1d-mark-iv-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-20040</link>
		<dc:creator>1D Mark IV in 2010? [CR2] &#124; Canon Rumors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Initial reports to us said the same thing some time ago. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Initial reports to us said the same thing some time ago. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shug</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/04/1d-mark-iv-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-14938</link>
		<dc:creator>Shug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full moon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full moon</p>
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		<title>By: JohnG</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/04/1d-mark-iv-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-14927</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 13:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errr...what date is today ?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errr&#8230;what date is today ?.</p>
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		<title>By: BIG WAVE</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/04/1d-mark-iv-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-12387</link>
		<dc:creator>BIG WAVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mark 4 is going to be called the Mark 5,,. Shortly after July 15 when the Canon lens rebates are over expect the release of the Mark 5. Save your green the camera is the ROCKING BOMB.. Your must have camera..  Nikon watch out your about to be left in the dust for 5 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mark 4 is going to be called the Mark 5,,. Shortly after July 15 when the Canon lens rebates are over expect the release of the Mark 5. Save your green the camera is the ROCKING BOMB.. Your must have camera..  Nikon watch out your about to be left in the dust for 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoyote</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/04/1d-mark-iv-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-8944</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happened to see a photographer who had a prototype at one of the events I was shooting. It shot 15fps in the cropped mode, and 12.3fps in full format mode. It was also 18 megapixels. That is all I was able to get out of him. He was also using the 70-200mm f2.8 lens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happened to see a photographer who had a prototype at one of the events I was shooting. It shot 15fps in the cropped mode, and 12.3fps in full format mode. It was also 18 megapixels. That is all I was able to get out of him. He was also using the 70-200mm f2.8 lens.</p>
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		<title>By: gwac</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/04/1d-mark-iv-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-8770</link>
		<dc:creator>gwac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Greater reach&quot; is a misleading way to state it, and I doubt that most people who say that understand the technical concepts involved with the 1.6x crop. They only understand that they get a more &quot;zoomed-in&quot; image, and therefore associate it with &quot;reach&quot;.

A more correct way of thinking about it would be &quot;more detail in the cropped portion at the expense of lost detail at the edges and poorer high ISO performance.&quot; But in good light, this doesn&#039;t matter much does it? I don&#039;t doubt that there are professional applications where the 1.6 crop is more desirable than full frame or 1.3. That said, I am a novice and shoot 1.6 because I plain can&#039;t afford FF, and I don&#039;t mind the size/weight advantages of a rebel either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Greater reach&#8221; is a misleading way to state it, and I doubt that most people who say that understand the technical concepts involved with the 1.6x crop. They only understand that they get a more &#8220;zoomed-in&#8221; image, and therefore associate it with &#8220;reach&#8221;.</p>
<p>A more correct way of thinking about it would be &#8220;more detail in the cropped portion at the expense of lost detail at the edges and poorer high ISO performance.&#8221; But in good light, this doesn&#8217;t matter much does it? I don&#8217;t doubt that there are professional applications where the 1.6 crop is more desirable than full frame or 1.3. That said, I am a novice and shoot 1.6 because I plain can&#8217;t afford FF, and I don&#8217;t mind the size/weight advantages of a rebel either.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/04/1d-mark-iv-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-8594</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The crop factor is about 1.25x, not the advertised 1.3x, so that gets you back to 10MP again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The crop factor is about 1.25x, not the advertised 1.3x, so that gets you back to 10MP again.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  In many tests the 700D seems to show slightly less (or at least, less annoying) noise than the 5DmkII, but the thing that strikes me is that the Canon is doing that with 75% more pixel density.  I would think that were Canon to put the 5DmkII sensor tech into a 12-15MP FF sensor it would best the 700D by at least half a stop.  Make it 4+ fps and it would be a great general-purpose camera and would rock for family photos (my G6 loses so badly indoors that I&#039;m a bit fixated on high-ISO performance for my next camera).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  In many tests the 700D seems to show slightly less (or at least, less annoying) noise than the 5DmkII, but the thing that strikes me is that the Canon is doing that with 75% more pixel density.  I would think that were Canon to put the 5DmkII sensor tech into a 12-15MP FF sensor it would best the 700D by at least half a stop.  Make it 4+ fps and it would be a great general-purpose camera and would rock for family photos (my G6 loses so badly indoors that I&#8217;m a bit fixated on high-ISO performance for my next camera).</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, possibly countered with greater noise. But the crop sensor aficionados have never claimed that crop gives them greater reach because of greater pixel density, just that it gives them greater reach.

But pixel density aside (and that&#039;s related to the sensor itself, not solely it&#039;s crop/dimensions) crop factor adds nothing in and of itself. No?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, possibly countered with greater noise. But the crop sensor aficionados have never claimed that crop gives them greater reach because of greater pixel density, just that it gives them greater reach.</p>
<p>But pixel density aside (and that&#8217;s related to the sensor itself, not solely it&#8217;s crop/dimensions) crop factor adds nothing in and of itself. No?</p>
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		<title>By: Zac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what gwac said.
basically as long as it is denser than the FF that holds true</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what gwac said.<br />
basically as long as it is denser than the FF that holds true</p>
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		<title>By: gwac</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/04/1d-mark-iv-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-8466</link>
		<dc:creator>gwac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 18:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But if it has a higher pixel density than the full frame that means additional detail in the cropped area, assuming the lens can stand up to the added resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if it has a higher pixel density than the full frame that means additional detail in the cropped area, assuming the lens can stand up to the added resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: gwac</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/04/1d-mark-iv-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-8465</link>
		<dc:creator>gwac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For every pro/enthusiast that goes full frame, I&#039;m sure there are at least a dozen people buying their first DSLR. And almost all of them are buying crop cameras, because for the first-time buyer it&#039;s a no-brainer! $500 vs. $2500???  The 1.6 crop is not going away any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For every pro/enthusiast that goes full frame, I&#8217;m sure there are at least a dozen people buying their first DSLR. And almost all of them are buying crop cameras, because for the first-time buyer it&#8217;s a no-brainer! $500 vs. $2500???  The 1.6 crop is not going away any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that&#039;s kinda what I meant, permanent crop based on sensor size. My point was that I think the extra reach of cropped sensors is just a fallacy. At the end of the day there&#039;s no extra zoom with a crop vs. FF sensor, just detail lost from the edges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that&#8217;s kinda what I meant, permanent crop based on sensor size. My point was that I think the extra reach of cropped sensors is just a fallacy. At the end of the day there&#8217;s no extra zoom with a crop vs. FF sensor, just detail lost from the edges.</p>
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