1D Mark IV
April 20th, 2009 Posted in Canon 1D Mark 4
Reuters?
A real life friend actually told me that he heard that Reuters has signed new NDAs with Canon. The only thing Reuters would care about is pro camera bodies and to a lesser extent, lenses. Apparently the NDA’s are for June through August.
Whether what he heard is true or not remains to be seen.
Going by history, this would put a new camera in the September ‘09 timeframe.
cr
April 20th, 2009 at 7:44 am
This would give us the time we need to put the new camera through the paces. I think you posted you had been told to look for updates on the 300 2.8, and the 400 2.8 this year as well? Those would go really well together and fit in ones bag quite well for the 2010 Olympics!
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David J Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
don’t you mean 2012?
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Anonymous Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
February 11-March 1, 2010, Winter Games in Whistler, B.C. – woo hoo!
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April 20th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Going by what history? And has this friend gotten this kind of scoop before? Please go a little more indepth with your analysis of these things.
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Canon has often historically announced new pro series cameras in September/August or Jan/Feb.
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April 20th, 2009 at 8:44 am
sorry to be stupid…
what does NDA stands for?
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April 20th, 2009 at 8:48 am
NDA=Non Disclosure Agreement.
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Da Bomb Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 8:50 am
thanks :)
you da man!
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h3 Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 9:24 am
NDA + No Dumb Asses
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Zac Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Chill dude. he asked a question rather spouting off uninformed, I respect that.
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Luke Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Yup and someone broke that NDA letting canon rumors know about it, ha.
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David Russell Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Not necessarily. Telling people that Company A has agreed to an NDA with Company B doesn’t necessarily violate the NDA, unless it contained a clause saying “you do not talk about NDA club” :P
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Yeah it’s like attorney-client privilage, you can say you met with your attorney and for how long you just can’t discuss any of the substance of the conversation.
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April 20th, 2009 at 8:52 am
So does this mean that Reuters would be using beta (test) versions of these bodies in the field? I don’t know the implications of what you are telling us.
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Greg Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 9:08 am
That is most likely what he is implying.
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Probably some testing and showing off the beta version to them. The NDA is just so they can not talk about it before Canon announces the camera.
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April 20th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Well, I don’t mind half a year back or forth in the actual release date. I won’t buy it right away at the release anyway. Instead, I plan to wait for 6..12 month until prices drop a bit. :-D
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Nigel Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 9:04 am
More to the point, waiting until (1) the paying beta testers are placated and (2) reasonable stock enters the retails chain.
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April 20th, 2009 at 9:13 am
It seems a bit late for Olympics. If it’s announced Sept 1, that leaves only 5 months till the Olympics – throw in the fact that it usually takes 3 months for these things to hit shelves from announce date and you’re looking at only 2 months of testing. Fine for a tourist going on a trip, not fine for a pro with his/her career on the line. You may see a few at the olympics if it’s announced at this time, but don’t expect it to be that prevalent… might see some pro with 15 camera’s use it as a test for curling or something less demanding and with a smaller interest level. Don’t expect to see it at figure skating or the Downhill events.
It’s nice to see it coming, but I wouldn’t expect it for the Olympics. The NCAA Final 4 or Opening Day of baseball will be the first time you spot these in the wild if it’s announced in Sept
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h3 Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 9:25 am
what do you know you noob
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Not neccessarily. Canon will already have shown beta versions to the magazine/news companies and have cut contracts for first delivery. Also, what pro needs two months to test a camera? Maybe a tourist needs two months to test a camera but come on, even that is pushing how long it would likely take. One weekend covering some sports and they’d be up to speed.
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Nigel Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
The pros using the camera at the Olympics will be predominantly working for the big agencies (e.g. Reuters) who will have plenty of early bodies. Late stocking for these cams is only a problem for lower tier pros and ams.
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April 20th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Looks like Canon needs to implement NDA on the signed NDAs.
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
that’s funny, lol
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DeeWee Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
It’s funny coz it’s true!
Anyway, this rumour sounds like BS ;)
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Well, saying anyone signed a NDS with Canon doesn’t really say anything, not even what’s its for. It’s just an assumption it has anything to do with a 1D4 release.
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April 20th, 2009 at 10:12 am
That timing makes sense to me, 5 months is adequate time to get them to photographers for the Olympics. Those who photograph the olympics for major news organizations will get cameras and lenses first, either loaners, or a good deal on them.
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April 20th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Hasn’t Reuters already defected completely to the Nikon camp? At least that was what I heard when the D3 was first announced… :)
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Mik Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 10:40 am
There’s been a lot of rubbish talked about the so-called exodus to Nikon and the 1D3 problems.
As expected there’s been a few, some as a result of freebies from Nikon, but its still a largely Canon market.
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
The D3 is old news. You can bet Canon is already showing off a 1D4 beta and you can bet Canon is looking to have a wall of white on the sidelines for the Olympics. If the 1D4 specs are good enough, and Canon’s timing is right, that is what we will see – again.
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Ed Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Supposedly, Nikon gave them a super good deal to get them to switch to the D3.
Canon is likely offering a similar or even better deal, along with a much more capable camera. They may even take the Nikon stuff in trade.
Both Nikon and Canon pro cameras and lenses are great, but when a sales organization wants to see their equipment out there, they may have literal give-aways.
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Yep, but they aren’t gonna shoot themselves in the foot either and sacrifice images to the competition by sticking with a camera that’s not as good. It’s gonna have to be a clear edge on the Nikon performance-wise as well. Nikon couldn’t give away their cameras to sports organizations when Canon dominated on performance until the D3 came out as a very good camera. The same will hold true for the 1D4 – it’s gonna have to wow them too.
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Ziggy Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Ed, have you ever heard of anyone really getting a deal from Nikon, or just an internet rumor. For I have talking with Nikon and they tell me of no such deal.
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
I have. Local schools and newspapers.
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Stark-Arts Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
I as well know that they gave away or practically gave away a ton of D3’s -
They did what they had to do in order to get market share and it was good for them…but it still wasn’t enough.
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April 20th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
This sounds about right .. sep press release .. nov/dec shipping. I’m sure Canon is going to be a bit more detailed in the field testing to make sure we don’t have a 1d3 repeat.
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April 20th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
say this out loud to yourselves:
“A real life friend actually told me that he heard that…”
a friend told you that he heard something. wow.
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Isn’t that an REO Speedwagon tune?
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Zac Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
It’s a rumors site.
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Musouka Reply:
April 21st, 2009 at 6:45 am
Yeah, but whatever happened to the rumor ratings (CR0, CR1… etc). They haven’t been applied to posts in a while.
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Zac Reply:
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:06 pm
the admin is redoing the rating system to make it more effective
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April 20th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
I would like to point out that the people shooting at Olympic games are almost certainly a member of a large organization, like Reuters, or independently CPS members it might be possible that these groups could get mkIV bodies more expeditiously than those looking to buy from retail srores, even if they are just trial loaners, this would help restore the wall of white glass, and the people shooting would almost certainly have other camera bodies with them as backups. it would be a good demonstrator to part of their target market for the camera. Doesn’t mean I’d will happen, but it does make some sort of sense.
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April 20th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Well, this would a great opportunity for Canon to demonstrate that they can get a camera physically in the hands of many many real photographers shortly after an announcement. Whether they pull it off is another question altogether….but, in the eyes of many, it would be a great “comeback” to actually make the product available.
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
In the hands of news/magazines is not the same as on stocking retail store shelves but we’ll see.
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Scott Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Well Canon generally does make their newly announced models available quickly. The 5DII is an exception, as was the 1DsIII, but the 40D was available 2 or 3 days after announcement, as was the 1DIII, XSi, XTi, XT and pretty much any earlier cam. I`m sure they`ll want their new Pro body available for the Olympics, so being released in the fall makes sense
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KAS Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Getting Rebels out isn’t really a big deal. But if they can get a pro body in the hands of pros and consumers right away, that will really win over the favour of many people…especially those on the internets
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David Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
except people at x-mas time are buying Rebels, not 1D4’s
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Stark-Arts Reply:
April 20th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
why is getting 40,000 rebels out no big deal? but getting out 5000 1D’s would be? that is silly…
In any event you don’t comment at all on the rest of the statement…
My 1D and my 1DII were in my hands very shortly after announcement….
the only cams that have been slow to market are the FF cams…
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David Reply:
April 21st, 2009 at 11:01 am
40,000 Rebels means 40,000 + lens sales too (they sell mostly kits), and given the low build quality on the Rebel, far lower R&D costs, and the cheap construction of the EF-S lenses I’d think their profit margins much higher on it too – so I’m sure its a big deal to Canon. 1D buyers are more likely to already have the lenses they want, it’s using more cutting edge technology so the R&D cost is higher and the chance of early production problems higher which could produce delays.
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April 20th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
I know a few got loaners for the last Olympics from Nikon, so prolly a lot more did too, that’s how they got to having more “black” at Olympics …cheaters
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flyb0y Reply:
April 22nd, 2009 at 5:22 pm
That’s standard practice. Don’t be ignorant.
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April 21st, 2009 at 2:31 am
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April 21st, 2009 at 10:41 am
NDA stands for ‘Never Designed Apparatus’?
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David Reply:
April 21st, 2009 at 10:51 am
Not Done Already
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April 21st, 2009 at 8:59 pm
I really think canonrumors needs to up its abilities. “A real life friend told me”
WOW
The rumors are so THICK !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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David Reply:
April 21st, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Interesting name.
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Jesper Revald Reply:
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Sorta like in the name… canonRUMORS :-)
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April 22nd, 2009 at 7:06 am
Maybe Reuters are testing some new Canon photocopiers?
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David Reply:
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
They want the new Rebel ;)
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April 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Why don’t we suck each other off?
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David Reply:
April 22nd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Uh, I didnt write that – just to be clear.
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April 22nd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Sounds like a great idea David.
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April 22nd, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Admin, please read and remove the most recent posts by ‘David’ and ‘Zac’ Oh, and whoever is doing it, it actually is funny, but it degrades the sight, and might push people away from it, which means less $$$ for the admin, which means less info, etc… so please do stop
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Zac Reply:
April 22nd, 2009 at 11:08 pm
uhhh by most recent i meant the two above, poor wording
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David Reply:
April 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 am
It’s more childish than funny – something a preteen would find fun to do. But it would be nice to have those removed.
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April 28th, 2009 at 8:38 am
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October 25th, 2009 at 9:05 am
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