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	<title>Comments on: EF 70-200 f/4L IS &#8211; Stabilization Test</title>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. here is a rumor for you:

Chuck:Brian had sex with Liz in the men&#039;s stall last week.

Bill: OMG Really???  that&#039;s F*ing Nasty...

Chuck: Yup.  I bet she is Preggo now.

Bill: If thats true Ill start sharpening the wooden stakes right now...  That thing is gonna be a hideous monster!

Chuck: lulz. For sure.

Feel better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. here is a rumor for you:</p>
<p>Chuck:Brian had sex with Liz in the men&#8217;s stall last week.</p>
<p>Bill: OMG Really???  that&#8217;s F*ing Nasty&#8230;</p>
<p>Chuck: Yup.  I bet she is Preggo now.</p>
<p>Bill: If thats true Ill start sharpening the wooden stakes right now&#8230;  That thing is gonna be a hideous monster!</p>
<p>Chuck: lulz. For sure.</p>
<p>Feel better?</p>
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		<title>By: jigglypoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jigglypoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone who&#039;s arguing racing slicks and the sound of one hand clapping is missing the point of the analogy. analogies are inherently flawed, but the point remains... that manufacturer claims are often optimistic at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone who&#8217;s arguing racing slicks and the sound of one hand clapping is missing the point of the analogy. analogies are inherently flawed, but the point remains&#8230; that manufacturer claims are often optimistic at best.</p>
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		<title>By: RS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having owned this lens since its introduction, I would agree in general that 4 stops stabilization is optimistic. That&#039;s not to say it isn&#039;t possible, just that in regular use I&#039;ve found this lens has been less consistent than what I came to expect from the 2.8 IS version (though it&#039;s not even close enough of a reason to switch back to the 2.8 IS).

A possible explanation for the less effective IS could be that the lens is not as massive as the 2.8 version, yet just about as long, resulting in a combination that is lighter in the hand with less inherent &quot;natural&quot; vibration suppression, forcing the IS system to work harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having owned this lens since its introduction, I would agree in general that 4 stops stabilization is optimistic. That&#8217;s not to say it isn&#8217;t possible, just that in regular use I&#8217;ve found this lens has been less consistent than what I came to expect from the 2.8 IS version (though it&#8217;s not even close enough of a reason to switch back to the 2.8 IS).</p>
<p>A possible explanation for the less effective IS could be that the lens is not as massive as the 2.8 version, yet just about as long, resulting in a combination that is lighter in the hand with less inherent &#8220;natural&#8221; vibration suppression, forcing the IS system to work harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Grummbeerbauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grummbeerbauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nyc

I find non-rumor related posting useful, in particular in more dull times. I guess I wouldn&#039;t have stumbled across the SLRGear IS review otherwise.

Regarding the effectiveness of the IS in the EF 70-200 F4 IS... I have that lens, and while I am happy with its image quality and AF performance, I actually -- subjectively -- felt that the &quot;Vibration control&quot; (VC) of my Tamron 28-300 VC &quot;superzoom&quot; is noticeably more effective. I hope SLRGear will test mor IS/OS/VC/VR implementations soon.
I can&#039;t give you any estimates in F-stops, though -- in particular because most of my non-keeper shots with the Tamron are due to its terrible AF accuracy. Mine has a serious problem on close range subjects in the 28-45mm focal range.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nyc</p>
<p>I find non-rumor related posting useful, in particular in more dull times. I guess I wouldn&#8217;t have stumbled across the SLRGear IS review otherwise.</p>
<p>Regarding the effectiveness of the IS in the EF 70-200 F4 IS&#8230; I have that lens, and while I am happy with its image quality and AF performance, I actually &#8212; subjectively &#8212; felt that the &#8220;Vibration control&#8221; (VC) of my Tamron 28-300 VC &#8220;superzoom&#8221; is noticeably more effective. I hope SLRGear will test mor IS/OS/VC/VR implementations soon.<br />
I can&#8217;t give you any estimates in F-stops, though &#8212; in particular because most of my non-keeper shots with the Tamron are due to its terrible AF accuracy. Mine has a serious problem on close range subjects in the 28-45mm focal range.</p>
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		<title>By: Nyc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this was a rumor site and not a review site.

LAME</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this was a rumor site and not a review site.</p>
<p>LAME</p>
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		<title>By: Hagen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well actually racing slicks are very bad for fuel economy: too sticky. For best fuel economy you want highly inflated hockey pucks from WalMart: low rolling resistance. Of course you&#039;ll be killed at the first corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well actually racing slicks are very bad for fuel economy: too sticky. For best fuel economy you want highly inflated hockey pucks from WalMart: low rolling resistance. Of course you&#8217;ll be killed at the first corner.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is an impressive attempt to standardize the test measurements rather than DPR&#039;s method of having not only one person hand holding the camera, but then a subjective estimate as to how sharp the image is.

One person can take photos and declare them tack sharp, but the blur analyzer is a more accurate measure of sharpness than a persons perception, so it helps remove individual subjective ratings of blur.

Mechanized vibration fixtures could be used to hold the camera, but they do not correlate to a real person holding the camera because there are so many variables.

The results are pretty much as expected, Up to 4 stops does not mean average of 4 stops, its the very highest result that could be obtained under perfect conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an impressive attempt to standardize the test measurements rather than DPR&#8217;s method of having not only one person hand holding the camera, but then a subjective estimate as to how sharp the image is.</p>
<p>One person can take photos and declare them tack sharp, but the blur analyzer is a more accurate measure of sharpness than a persons perception, so it helps remove individual subjective ratings of blur.</p>
<p>Mechanized vibration fixtures could be used to hold the camera, but they do not correlate to a real person holding the camera because there are so many variables.</p>
<p>The results are pretty much as expected, Up to 4 stops does not mean average of 4 stops, its the very highest result that could be obtained under perfect conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Agent420</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agent420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racing slicks will not improve gas mileage, they will do the opposite. You need tall, skinny, hard tires as one of the factors toward good gas mileage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racing slicks will not improve gas mileage, they will do the opposite. You need tall, skinny, hard tires as one of the factors toward good gas mileage.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if 2.8 stops meshes with what I&#039;ve experienced either.  But remember, the 1/focal length rule is just a rule of thumb, so Canon might be calculating the 4-stop benefit by using a shutter speed higher than 1/200 (1/320 for croppers).  

But hey, as long as SLRGear uses the same methodology and repeatable techniques in all of their tests, such tests will finally allow one to make an apples to apples comparison between different IS versions in Canon&#039;s lens line-up, as well as the effectiveness of IS/VR/OS/In-body compared across the board.  Kudos to SLRGear.

BTW, I personally appreciate CanonRumors posting relevant photo-related news; especially when the rumor mill dies down after major photo shows &amp; announcements.  
Keep up the great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if 2.8 stops meshes with what I&#8217;ve experienced either.  But remember, the 1/focal length rule is just a rule of thumb, so Canon might be calculating the 4-stop benefit by using a shutter speed higher than 1/200 (1/320 for croppers).  </p>
<p>But hey, as long as SLRGear uses the same methodology and repeatable techniques in all of their tests, such tests will finally allow one to make an apples to apples comparison between different IS versions in Canon&#8217;s lens line-up, as well as the effectiveness of IS/VR/OS/In-body compared across the board.  Kudos to SLRGear.</p>
<p>BTW, I personally appreciate CanonRumors posting relevant photo-related news; especially when the rumor mill dies down after major photo shows &amp; announcements.<br />
Keep up the great work!</p>
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		<title>By: Gusto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I thought they&#039;ve come up with a brilliant technique to measure stabilization effectiveness. Doh! It&#039;s just a few dudes holding the lens as best as they can. Ya, right.... so much for credibility.

I&#039;ll rather look at DPReview results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I thought they&#8217;ve come up with a brilliant technique to measure stabilization effectiveness. Doh! It&#8217;s just a few dudes holding the lens as best as they can. Ya, right&#8230;. so much for credibility.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll rather look at DPReview results.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s odd, around 80% of my shots at 1/15s at 200mm are tack sharp with that lens and my 5D2...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s odd, around 80% of my shots at 1/15s at 200mm are tack sharp with that lens and my 5D2&#8230;</p>
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