Comments on: Canon 60D [CR1]

By: califallan

califallan — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 00:32:18 +0000

Nobody is talking about BURST FRAME SPEED. I hope it will
be at least 8 F.P.S. in a size bigger than 1080 by 1920.
This way you get a series of stills with short interval, and
a video clip if the action is “newsworthy” for sports or
online video. I have a 5D Mark 2, and a 40D, but something
in between would be cool that uses the 1.6 smaller format, and
my 40D lenses.

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 08:38:12 +0000

Thank you for your informative reply Zac, I did admit to being a relative novice!

It still appears to me though that magazines etc refer to Aperture Priority when talking of Aperture Value which does appear rather odd and uneccessarily confusing.

I will have to sit down quietly and get my head around the aperture ratio issue but hopefully it will make sense once decifered.

I refered to the flippable screen as a discouraging comment to manufacturers who I often feel follow trends rather than consider the true worth or practicality of an addition to cameras.

I appreciate your response to my comment on camera dimensions, I have picked up a lot of cameras in recent weeks and a great deal of them do not feel comfortable to hold and dare I say my hands are not particularly big.

Once again thank you for your reply Zac – I will have to focus on the focus issue a bit more, before rambling on again!

By: Zac

Zac — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:12:21 +0000

OK, the aperture stuff is not marketing at all. thats convention established well before you were born.

Av stands for Aperture Value. since you specify the value, not giving priority or some such term which is not accurate.

the f/stop (number) is a ratio between the the maximum aperture of the lens and its focal. Thus they’re most formally written 1:##, if you look at your EF or EF-S lenses they will be thusly marked. we simply drop the 1: for convenience, so in fact the smaller number does mean smaller value, you’re just forgetting that you’re dealing with a ratio with a leading value of 1, and therefore a fraction.

I understand that that is initially confusing, but think about it for a while, It actually makes a lot of sense.

Creative Automatic mode addresses the simple display to tell people what the stuff does.

the 40D does have a nice size, but there are people who have smaller hands and prefer smaller cameras, or decreased size for increased portability, it is unwise to not cover a range of camera sizes.

Canon has not included a flippable LCD in a DSLR to date, and their most recent ones are all but unscratchable.

I know nothing about video, so I will not comment.

I totally agree with the megapixels comment, but I think a lot of what you’re saying is a bit misinformed.

By: Mike.

Mike. — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:26:07 +0000

Should you wish to respond to my notes regarding the “arrogance” of marketing departments creating “potential customers” rather than “actual customers” it may be more succesful to reply via this note as I made an “error of judgement” as politicians say and mispelt my e-mail address – Whoops!

By: Mike.

Mike. — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 07:11:54 +0000

It appears to me as a relative novice to DSLR photography but not a relative novice to life, as I am turned 60 years that perhaps the marketing departments of camera manufacturers have little courage but plenty of arrogance! Why do camera producers stay with outdated confusing icons such as Av for Aperture Priority when surely Ap is more logical! Why is it that as aperture openings get smaller the opening is refered to by a larger number? Has no one the courage to turn things on there head and communicate camera features sensibly? Is there really a need to increase mega pixel numbers for the sake of a few people in a marketing department? If a clear and simple description in the screen at the rear of cameras described the effect that various settings have on an image taken it would no doubt encourage more people to purchase what are now cameras with a diverse number of confusing settings. Why is there an apparent desire to include flippable screens that are just waiting to be snapped off – why not a fixed glass screen that will not scratch? Why not include video with adjustable focus and standard res’ of 720 with 24 frames, modern televisions will upgrade the signal to virtually HD when played. Why the need for smaller and smaller camera bodies the Canon 40D body is so comfortable to handle. Not meeting the needs of people and arrogance has historically damaged organisations, governments and whole civilisations. I may be wrong but I believe there is a massive market that will not get involved with the pleasure of more ambitious photography simply because the marketing departments have convinced themselves arrogantly that they can dictate to potential customers – which is why they will most likely stay “potential customers” and not become “actual customers”

By: Zac

Zac — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:34:16 +0000

interesting find, I suspect it is a housing for the much much older D60, (canon) and just a typo on B&H’s part.

By: Peter Hauri

Peter Hauri — Sat, 30 May 2009 14:16:39 +0000

then the 70D will feature manual aperture control? ;-) not my cup of tea. I do photography, that’s all.

By: JT

JT — Fri, 29 May 2009 02:23:24 +0000

I guess the reason why they added this functionality to the 5D Mk II is due to the release of the Canon 60D soon.

The next 60D will most likely have the video specs the 5D MK II have currently before the update and this will be the method of differentiating both of them (video-wise).

The important thing will be whether somebody will be able to hack the current patch to the Mk II for the 60D.

By: Ezio Armando

Ezio Armando — Thu, 28 May 2009 20:27:53 +0000

100% agreed!

By: Gusto

Gusto — Thu, 28 May 2009 07:25:24 +0000

I think all of you have been deceived by DPReview and the Nikon/Sony fan club. More pixels can render image noise more pleasing… when printed on the same scale as a lower pixel count camera.

Oh, well… wait till Nikon rolls out a 16 to 18 MP APS-C D400, then all this talk about detrimental high pixel density sensors will end abruptly. The same way people stopped whining about vignetting on FF cameras once the D3/D700 were released. ;)

By: Gusto

Gusto — Thu, 28 May 2009 07:20:05 +0000

I’ve got both CF and SD cards. If using SD cards can bring about a reduction in camera size (not smaller than the Nikon D90 please), I am all for SD cards. :D

By: KPK

KPK — Wed, 27 May 2009 12:32:42 +0000

In my opinion, for the vast majority of users, 15mp is a gimmick – “mine is bigger than yours”. I would rather have a 12mp camera with better IQ and low light performance than a 15mp camera.

I am going to upgrade when my present camera breaks, or when a new body is sufficiently compelling. Because I am very, very pleased with my current camera and have no reason to buy a new one.

By: dopravopat

dopravopat — Wed, 27 May 2009 12:05:41 +0000

No aperture control? Why the hell that??? Will there be at least manual shutter speed control?

By: Al

Al — Wed, 27 May 2009 08:19:31 +0000

KPK.. any camera you can buy that has come out after your 350d DOES improve on every single one of those things you mentioned, especially if you go to the 50d or now the 1000d.

So, when you upgrading?

I can agree with the Video being a bit of a gimmick.. but 15mp over your camera is a huge upgrade, but then again, means nothing if you don’t print large. I do, so it’s a huge difference.