Comments on: 1D4 Test Camera Specs

By: Emely Schmader

Emely Schmader — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:12:23 +0000

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By: Peter

Peter — Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:22:40 +0000

Why FF????

First of all, canon has no good lens for ff sensors
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/427-canon_1740_4_5d
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/435-canon_1635_28_5d

“If you require at least a decent corner resolution you should stick to f/11 at this focal length.”

Stop down to f/11??? Brilliant.

And second, as a wedding photographer i donÃ‚Â´t see the benefit. 16mm @ 1,3 is not enough wide angle????
What kind of weddings are we talking about?
Notorious BIG & Queen Latifah in a phonebox or what?

I want a weather sealed, fast, good handling tool without all the unnecessary HD-movie crap and a perfect pixel/cmÃ‚Â² ratio and the actual MkIII does a great job.

The only downside is the missing internal flash control for rremote flashes. THAT needs to be fixed

By: Sam

Sam — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:51:39 +0000

Why don’t you use Nikon’s lighting system?

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:48:02 +0000

We should be starting to hear some decent rumbles by now…..

Even some firm hush hush rumours from a few of the crafty testers.

Someone should be leaning hard on Galbraith. That bugger will be holding out on us right now you can bet your bottom dollar!

He has been very quiet of late….

By: keith

keith — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:11:27 +0000

I love all of my Canon gear and when I bought it I was super excited and still am. When I first started out I was shooting press (sports) and now I have changed over to portraits and interiors. I wanted to keep things light weight so I went with the 580 and my lights. I just wish Canon would step up and make a better system for lighting.

I will be buying a Mark4 ASAP.

By: Zac

Zac — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:29:16 +0000

Also please explain how the resolution would need to be decreased in order to maintain motordrive speeds. 16MP FF requires the same processing power as 16MP APS-H, so have the same processor, you get the same drive speed except what is limited by the mirror, and with that the AF system.
I swear if they do something stupid like give us a 15fps APS-H camera that can’t AF past 10 fps I’m going to fly to Japan and kick the 1D4 project manager in the balls.

By: Zac

Zac — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:13:44 +0000

then tell me how Nikon, with a slower and less responsive AF system can get 9fps with AF from a FF camera that’s only 6 months younger than the 1D mkIII. we’re not talking an important difference there. 9 and 10 fps are going to get the same results 95% of the time, so I do not buy this ‘mirror moves faster’ stuff, at least not that it moves sufficiently faster to provide any benefit.

Oh and by the way, the D3 is basically the same price as a 1D mkIII. so unless Nikon can do something that Canon can’t, which I do not believe, they’re is no good reason for an H sized sensor and mirror.

how would they be priced so differently anyway?

By: Nathan Scott

Nathan Scott — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:39:27 +0000

Zac, I have no problem with there being a choice and it would be nice but it is naive to think that a FF 1D would have all of the speed etc of an H model at the same price. At the very least it would require much greater processing power and buffer memory which would up the price markedly or you would need to lower the pixel count markedly which isnt going to happen.
David, i disagree that it is purely a price point thing as a number of users like the APS-C as they dont have to go out and buy very expensive long glass, which is another problem with FF sensors – you need decent glass to use it. As for $900 FF camera – thats a long way off. I seriously doubt a FF 1D4 would destroy H sales as there is no practical way of making them the same price and therefore people would buy what they can afford (and/or want) to do the job.

By: David

David — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:52:45 +0000

Nathan, there is a market for Price Point you are describing that is not evidence of demand for APS-C – it’s only evidence is there is no other option. Anyone with $900 to spend for a DSLR with lens only has once choice: which brand of APS-C camera they can get. I’m quite certain if someone made a FF body with lens for $900 it would take over that market price point.

If Canon were to release a FF 1D4 and APS-H 1D4 side by side I have no doubt the FF version sales would completely destroy the APS-H sales. The only reason the H sells is because Canon has not given us a choice for that price point in a high speed pro body.

By: Gerhard

Gerhard — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:36:07 +0000

Agree Niko

My 40D outperforms a D40 so Nikon better improve. Or else…I mean that is silly is it not?

I am trying to understand what is so fantastic about Nikon. My dad is into Nikon. I bought into Canon about two years ago when i started getting more serious. At the time, to me, the Canon system was superior. I had no vested interest.

Today, Nikon has some nice bodies in the top range but I think anybody thinking there is enough difference to liquidate one to go to the other has too much money and ego and not enough skill.

Canon still has a wider selection of lenses etc. And make no mistake, the new 1D4 and 1Ds4 will blow anything on the market at the time of release clear out of the water. So will you then go back to Canon? Only to go back to Nikon when they release their next D4 etc a year later?

The next 1D4 will be a disaster. Sell all your kit now. I am looking for some cheap L glass!

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:17:26 +0000

Why do people keep whining about 1.3x crop?

I don’t see those that require fast shutter speed (i.e. PJ, Sports and Birders) take many wide-angle landscape photos.

There will surely be an FF 1Ds4 for those that photo landscapes.

By: Zac

Zac — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:28:59 +0000

ok, but is it too much to ask for a choice? a APS-H and a FF 1D? or why is it that when you go to Canon’s website and click ‘Canon Advantages’ it lists FF CMOS sensors as one if the purchaser of a new $4500 1D body doesn’t receive that advantage? perhaps APS-H should be under ‘Canon advantages’ then. I’m not threatening a Nikon switch, I simply prefer Canon equipment, nuff said, but I would like a high (or at least decent (8+) fps FF pro body. Is there really NOT a market for that?

By: Nathan Scott

Nathan Scott — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:42:41 +0000

Yes indeed there are lenses etc available just for APS-C but the underlying fact is that there is a market for them and if there is a market for APS-H then Canon should still support it. As ive stated above if this is such a big problem for the anti-H crowd then sell up and go get the Nikon you want rather than blowing gaskets telling Canon they are wrong. I know this doesnt help agency people with supplied gear but they do have the advantage of not spending their own money in the first place.

By: Nathan Scott

Nathan Scott — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:36:44 +0000

As some of the FF crowd have decided that Canon will not make the camera they want then sell up and move to Nikon. If you want a D3/D300/D700 with a Canon badge it isnt going to happen so make the most of the fact that you will get decent money for your gear and reinvest in Nikon. I know of a few people who have done it as they wanted the features that were available and they are happy with their decision. Constantly whining that you are going to leave Canon if they dont do what you want is not going to make any difference so make the move and be happy.

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