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		<title>By: Alan M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention...

Actually, I think it more likely that the 200/2.8 II might get IS, rather than any of the macro lenses. That would make a ton of sense and that lens would become a lot more useful for folks with crop sensor cameras. An update of the IS on the 300/4 and finally adding it to the 400/5.6 would be two other really good possibilities! 

There does appear to be a more effective IS version out now, even leaving aside the &quot;hybrid&quot; talked about in the press release... The more recent lenses intoduced with it seem to be rated for a good four stops or so worth of assistance from the current generation of IS (70-200/4, 200/2 and 800/5.6). Earlier generations of IS were rated for two to three stops. So I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised to see updates of some of the premium lenses that already use it, incorporating a revised IS but largely leaving the optical designs alone. The likely candidates include the 70-200/2.8 IS, 300/2.8, 400/4 DO, 400/2.8, 500/4 and 600/4.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention&#8230;</p>
<p>Actually, I think it more likely that the 200/2.8 II might get IS, rather than any of the macro lenses. That would make a ton of sense and that lens would become a lot more useful for folks with crop sensor cameras. An update of the IS on the 300/4 and finally adding it to the 400/5.6 would be two other really good possibilities! </p>
<p>There does appear to be a more effective IS version out now, even leaving aside the &#8220;hybrid&#8221; talked about in the press release&#8230; The more recent lenses intoduced with it seem to be rated for a good four stops or so worth of assistance from the current generation of IS (70-200/4, 200/2 and 800/5.6). Earlier generations of IS were rated for two to three stops. So I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised to see updates of some of the premium lenses that already use it, incorporating a revised IS but largely leaving the optical designs alone. The likely candidates include the 70-200/2.8 IS, 300/2.8, 400/4 DO, 400/2.8, 500/4 and 600/4.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IS is of little use to me on a macro lens. Nikon&#039;s 105mm VR isn&#039;t very effective at macro distances, even they have to admit, so I don&#039;t think I&#039;d spend the money for it on a Canon lens either. 

Now, if it were a dual purpose lens being used a lot for non-macro shooting, that might be different. The 100mm is somewhat of a dual purpose lens, in the current USM version and with the focus limiter engaged it focuses quickly enough to double as a moderate tele or portrait lens at non-macro distances. But, it&#039;s also not difficult to hand hold, particularly as higher ISOs continue to improve in the cameras.  

About the only reason the current 100mm f2.8 isn&#039;t already &quot;blessed&quot; with L status is that it just doesn&#039;t need the exotic glass, which is one of Canon&#039;s criteria for and definitions of an L lens. Painting a red stripe on the front of the 100mm won&#039;t improve it&#039;s image quality one bit. It&#039;s already a fine lens and Canon really needs to focus their attention elsewhere, but will most probably just come out with more zooms since that&#039;s what consumers tend to want and where they make the most sales. 

The 180mm f3.5 macro is already a fine lens, too, although it&#039;s not very dual purpose due to it&#039;s slower auto focus  even when you properly use the focus limiter switch. That&#039;s pretty hard to overcome since there will always need to be a lot of travel to focus the lens from 1:1 to infinity, and I really can&#039;t imagine that a 200/3.5 would be any better. 

Well, we didn&#039;t hear anything this week, but will soon enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IS is of little use to me on a macro lens. Nikon&#8217;s 105mm VR isn&#8217;t very effective at macro distances, even they have to admit, so I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d spend the money for it on a Canon lens either. </p>
<p>Now, if it were a dual purpose lens being used a lot for non-macro shooting, that might be different. The 100mm is somewhat of a dual purpose lens, in the current USM version and with the focus limiter engaged it focuses quickly enough to double as a moderate tele or portrait lens at non-macro distances. But, it&#8217;s also not difficult to hand hold, particularly as higher ISOs continue to improve in the cameras.  </p>
<p>About the only reason the current 100mm f2.8 isn&#8217;t already &#8220;blessed&#8221; with L status is that it just doesn&#8217;t need the exotic glass, which is one of Canon&#8217;s criteria for and definitions of an L lens. Painting a red stripe on the front of the 100mm won&#8217;t improve it&#8217;s image quality one bit. It&#8217;s already a fine lens and Canon really needs to focus their attention elsewhere, but will most probably just come out with more zooms since that&#8217;s what consumers tend to want and where they make the most sales. </p>
<p>The 180mm f3.5 macro is already a fine lens, too, although it&#8217;s not very dual purpose due to it&#8217;s slower auto focus  even when you properly use the focus limiter switch. That&#8217;s pretty hard to overcome since there will always need to be a lot of travel to focus the lens from 1:1 to infinity, and I really can&#8217;t imagine that a 200/3.5 would be any better. </p>
<p>Well, we didn&#8217;t hear anything this week, but will soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But IS on a macro for insects? 
Insects move and IS only compensates for camera/lens movement. The background may be sharper but the subject won&#039;t as it moves.
Maybe the lens is aimed at portrait users too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But IS on a macro for insects?<br />
Insects move and IS only compensates for camera/lens movement. The background may be sharper but the subject won&#8217;t as it moves.<br />
Maybe the lens is aimed at portrait users too.</p>
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		<title>By: Takumi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, wow, so all the prophets were right when they said the 2.8/70-200 IS will be replaced - that was plain BS, I said so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, wow, so all the prophets were right when they said the 2.8/70-200 IS will be replaced &#8211; that was plain BS, I said so.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the much rumoured EF 70-200 f2.8 IS is not going to be up for replacement afterall? I always knew it would be the macro lens since the new IS only benefit these lens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the much rumoured EF 70-200 f2.8 IS is not going to be up for replacement afterall? I always knew it would be the macro lens since the new IS only benefit these lens.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t have to look far to understand their pricing. Nikon has VR micro lens and it is nearly 2x price of the current 100mm macro. I am sure they wouldn&#039;t sell any cheaper than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to look far to understand their pricing. Nikon has VR micro lens and it is nearly 2x price of the current 100mm macro. I am sure they wouldn&#8217;t sell any cheaper than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be very interested by a EF 100 f/2.8 IS Macro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be very interested by a EF 100 f/2.8 IS Macro</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the new EF-S lenses to satisfy us EF-S users?</description>
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		<title>By: the skunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>the skunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but there are times when a tripod doesn&#039;t work well, if you want to follow a walking bug when making a macro video, granted keeping it within DOF is hard, but in this easier than when on a tripod and you will have some jumps in and oof but at least you wont have the frame shaking up and down too which pushes the quality below the acceptable level.

and if you fire off a quick burst you can often get at least one frame centered well within the DOF for still shots so IS would help some since for those shots that work in/out they will be crisp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but there are times when a tripod doesn&#8217;t work well, if you want to follow a walking bug when making a macro video, granted keeping it within DOF is hard, but in this easier than when on a tripod and you will have some jumps in and oof but at least you wont have the frame shaking up and down too which pushes the quality below the acceptable level.</p>
<p>and if you fire off a quick burst you can often get at least one frame centered well within the DOF for still shots so IS would help some since for those shots that work in/out they will be crisp</p>
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		<title>By: the skunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>the skunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since they are keeping the non-L that implies they will use the new IS to give it a huge price premium one would fear.

That would be nice though, trying to take some macro movies the other day and sometimes it is too hard to track and follow bugs on a tripod but hand-held the screen does move around a little too much IS (the new type that is) might help a real lot with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since they are keeping the non-L that implies they will use the new IS to give it a huge price premium one would fear.</p>
<p>That would be nice though, trying to take some macro movies the other day and sometimes it is too hard to track and follow bugs on a tripod but hand-held the screen does move around a little too much IS (the new type that is) might help a real lot with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dragos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought that the main point of this new hybrid IS was in its advantages for macro photography. I hope that it also helps in some way other types of lenses though... In any event, it is correct that Canon would want to emphasize this thing, since no one else offers it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that the main point of this new hybrid IS was in its advantages for macro photography. I hope that it also helps in some way other types of lenses though&#8230; In any event, it is correct that Canon would want to emphasize this thing, since no one else offers it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people use the macro lenses for portraiture.  IS would be a nice feature in that situation.  IS probably doesn&#039;t add much to the cost these days.  Now, weather sealing and extra elements to make in an &quot;L&quot; would be another story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people use the macro lenses for portraiture.  IS would be a nice feature in that situation.  IS probably doesn&#8217;t add much to the cost these days.  Now, weather sealing and extra elements to make in an &#8220;L&#8221; would be another story.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it sounds eco-friendly too, although in no way could it be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it sounds eco-friendly too, although in no way could it be.</p>
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