Real or Not? *UPDATE*
August 19th, 2009 Posted in Canon 7D
From a Korean Web Site
Canon 7D?
I can’t tell if it’s real or fake. Photoshop gurus?
From: http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=newproduct&pag…..
*UPDATE* Best Buy Info
The information we posted previously from the Best Buy inventory system has proven to be true in regards to the PowerShot line. The S90 was not an obvious model name, so the 7D’s chances of being real has gone up.
The information nailed the G11, SX20, SX120 and S90.
PowerShot Announcements Below!
cr
August 19th, 2009 at 7:19 am
this looks.. like REAL… to me…
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:36 am
how long will this pic stay up on the cr-website? any guesses? i’d say two more hours
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:19 am
and is that a microphone above the logo?!?!
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:20 am
It has begun!
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:32 am
finally, or just a hoax
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:21 am
I think it’s fake, but I’ll be very happy if it’s real and we have 7D camera!
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:21 am
with such high res… it’s improbable to think that this is fake or photoshopped in any way…
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:21 am
the question now is… WHEN!?!?!?!?!?!?
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jC Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:22 am
and what’s the exact spec… and pricing..
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Sean Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:46 am
@NL
* Canon 7D
* CMOS 12MPs Full Frame
* Digic 4
* Iso 100 – 25600
* OLED 3.0″
* 3.9fps
* viewfinder 98%
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belmullet Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:05 am
any links??
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:26 am
why digic 4 only. ?
i hope they have a better view-finder
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:37 am
3.9fps? No thanks. I’d rather the D300. When are Canon going to make a camera to compete with the D300? Fast camera with good quality at high ISO. Is it really too much to ask?
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Anonymous Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
When are you going to shut up and go Nikon.
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dannyROD Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:39 am
This spec list would be a dream come true . . . esp with lower MP
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Sleeping Dude Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:02 am
hopefully they also borrowed 640×480 video from G11
/sarcasm off
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Michael Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
ROFL
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Dave Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
3.9 FPS is worthless, it would be just another crippled camera made by Canon.
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Lindsay Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
I agree, you can’t possibly hope to take good photos with anything less than 6fps.
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Canonite Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Yeah it’s impossible.
LOL
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:22 am
If it’s a fake, I can say it is very, very well made.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Looks real to me!! It’s coming!!!
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Did the curves check – it looks GOOD.
Also checked the “microphone holes” and they aren’t pure black, or even a consistent colour.
I say – REAL.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Half hour to go!!!
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Could well be real. And if so, it means 7D will come in as expected at the lower end, possibly as the end to the xxD series. Note the flash popup button and the fact that that body design (from what can be seen) has branding very similar to the way the 5D was designed.
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Anonymous Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:28 am
A lower end FF, wooo hooo!!! This is good news
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:34 am
very good news. i want one now
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David Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
It is good news. Doubt it will replace the xxD line though (6.3 fps & EF-S should be it’s own market unless they are going to beef out the 500D more)
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Canonite Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Right, the XXD range makes a good alternative “sports” camera for people who can’t afford the 1D series.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Realllll :D
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:25 am
It has a pop-up flash? Really? If so, then crappy weather sealing confirmed.
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Sean Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Yeah, looks like they’re going to take xxD even more towards the casual shooter range and away from the semi-pro sport body it had been (IMO). Maybe we’ll see a 3D as well with the next 1D to fill the rung-down sport niche – it’d be a great way to go.
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:35 am
where do you c pop-up flash?
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Sean Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Flash release / popup button to the left of the logo – identical to those on all xxD and xxxD bodies.
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:37 am
ow, i am stupid. thanks for the help…
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Wuck Chestfall Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:40 am
What crappy weather sealing? Both the D300 & D700 have pop-up flashes and they’re better-built & -sealed than the 5D2, or even worse, the 50D. And the D300 even has the space for a 100%-coverage VF with it. j00=0wn3d
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:46 am
who need real whaterproofing. i’m not diving with that thing
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regular Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:22 am
timestamp : 2009:08:19 16:20:27
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th009 Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:49 am
My 20D has been through rain forests and torrential downpours, and with a little basic care I have never had a problem with the weather sealing. Not a big issue for me.
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kubelik Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:42 am
that’ll really be a shame if thats the case. I think I’ll go ahead and plastic cement all the gaps in the camera (including the microphone holes). honestly how much can it cost canon to weatherseal the things?
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Sean Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Quite a bit if they want to do it right, and it requires that the body be designed for it from the outset. We’ll see some innovation in this regard over the next couple years, but it’s anyone’s guess whether they designed this thing from the bottom up or if this is going to be a paniced offering to counter the a850 (say, cram a 5D/2 chip into a low-priced body).
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Canonite Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
I’d say 90% of people who complain about weather sealing on Canon cameras never really need it.
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trampstamp Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:00 am
agreed
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Anonymous Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
+1000 they just want to sound “pro”
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:25 am
At this point in time… I so want this to be real! I need a good bedtime story =)
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:25 am
half an hour until what?
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:25 am
And it has a flash. Canon don’t have a FF DSLR with flash, or at least until now :)
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:36 am
how do you c a flach on the shown pic?
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Mike Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:06 am
the flash button (lightning bolt symbol) is clearly visible.
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Doubting Thomas Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Till I see a direct print button I don’t believe it.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Hope it’s real! I didn’t think the 7D would become a reality. Glad I was (probably) wrong.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Pic of the direct print button or it doesn’t exist ;p
Joking aside, this looks quite real to me. The Internet will melt down either ways.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:28 am
original picture from korean site is not available anymore…
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:36 am
got it downloaded on my desktop
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belmullet Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:43 am
me too… now waiting for the specs… hope this is the REAL thing!!!
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:29 am
I hope its real or else I’m gonna be very very sad :(
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:30 am
there is no reflexion on the 7.. but i don’t know.
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Mac dee Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:35 am
agree with the no reflection.
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Sean Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:39 am
There’s as much reflection on it as the D next to it, lighting angles are just inconvenient for feeling certain it couldn’t have been faked. At that, though, realize that the PS’er would’ve had to:
1.) Modify an original 5D logo to make it a 7D.
2.) Merge this with a xxD body in order to get the flash popup button.
3.) Light everything to match.
4.) Fake the EXIF to appear as if it’d never been in PS and was just taken a couple hours ago in Asia.
Possible, yes, but far more effort than it would be worth to create something this good. Unless you just had nothing else to do.
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
There’s more – they’d have to create a new badge shape and make it look real.
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trampstamp Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 12:02 am
The shadows, bright points, CA around all parts of the image ALL match perfectly and it is a very high res picture.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:31 am
The logo-part looks crapy. Cheap FAKE!
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Anonomouse Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Do a better one then.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Looks very real to me but could still be a fake. A very good fake.
30 mins to go anyways.
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Anonomouse Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
How can YOU and MALTE both be right?! I’m so confussed.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Looks like someone photoshopped that 7 in there. The black around 7 has different shade of black than the rest of the logo. Well at least on my iPhone it looks like it.
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:41 am
why are you blathering about your show off iPohone?
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Fake Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:52 am
How am I blathering about my iphone? I just said it looked photoshopped because of the different shade of black around the number 7. The reason why I said that is because the iphone screen is not calibrated, which may be the reason why the picture looked photoshopped to me. Everyone has iphone nowadays (at least where I live). If you haven’t gone outside in the past 2 years, you should try doing that so you can learn something new.
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:07 am
i just was outside last week with my weather sealed 1ds. the iphont isnt waterproofed, and it’s no canon. so it’s literally off topic
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Allan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Just mentally replace the “Well at least on my iPhone it looks like it.” with “Well at least on this small, uncalibrated LCD I’m using to view this picture it looks like it” and stop being so pissy.
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Anonomouse Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
I went outside with my 5D. Do you want a medal? :P
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:37 am
7 seems a little above the D (not perfectly aligned?)
so I dunno but it would be the first smart move in a while if it’s real.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:42 am
http://derstandard.at/fs/12500037979…rder-von-Canon
gay
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:42 am
20 minutes!
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:43 am
If Photoshop, very well done.
BUT…. it looks like it has been used a lot.
It tells also – it has a built-in Flash.
If so, than it will be centainly a full frame camera, since Canon faced a bunch of critics that the 5d MarkII didn’t had a built-in flash – comparing with competitive camera’s (Sony, Nikon)
Well the real announcement should soon happen just about half an hours driving from my home: in Amstelveen (The Netherlands), where almost all the Canon press releases comes from.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Played around with it in PS looks good to me, way to much efford for a fake. The question is will we see it today?
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Mike Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:46 am
I agree that this may not surface today.
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:53 am
probably not but it gives me some time to do savings for it
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:46 am
iPhone rules, só does Canon (if 7D is real)
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:55 am
iPhone sucke. no pro-like-1-series AF. no direct print button. apple loosed on that one
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Anonymous Reply:
August 20th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
“loosed” did they?! Loosed their belts or something.
LOL. Also, what does “sucke” mean?
How old are you? 12? :P
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Boooooo….P&S :D
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:50 am
The real news: http://derstandard.at/fs/1250003797938/Herbstkollektion-Touchdigicam-und-Full-HD-Camcorder-von-Canon
I guess we have minor upgrades for G11 and SX20
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:52 am
I could see them announcing this with the 1D Mark IV potentially if Canon wants to release more professional oriented gear later to slam any of Sony’s announcements at the end of the month
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:52 am
G11
http://dpinterface.com/camera-news/canon-powershot-g11/
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:53 am
I just posted that! durrrrr.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:55 am
What makes me laugh, is to see all the so-called Photoshop experts here around.
It was exactly the same situation when the first pictures of the 5D appeared on the web a few years ago. I’ve seen a lot of those “experts” explaining why it was a fake.
And, finally, it was the real thing, taken from a leaked copy of the official brochure.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:55 am
If it’s a fake, I hope the person who did it is appreciated by his/her regular customers. Looks good by the numbers, still a little off to the naked eye. Could just be the harsh lighting.
If it’s real…there’s more to a camera than a number…give me useful guts. Alas, I see a microphone. What buffoon decided to start this trend of putting a video camera in my cameras? What’s next, cell phones, gps, keyboard so I can check facebook….?
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Anonymous Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Thats an awesome idea, at least a touch screen keyboard ala the iPhone, the screens are getting large enough for it.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:57 am
what the lens is it? looks liks a stabilized ef-s one, but the contours don’t match any real lens. a new ef-s lens to be released?
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:58 am
it’s funny how many people in the world right now know exactly what’s going on… yet we are none the wiser!
That 7D does look real to me, if not, its a very very good photoshop, good enough to not really be worth doing. I just don’t think it will come today that’s all.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:58 am
weee 3 mins mates
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:59 am
iPhone doesn’t have F5 :S
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Dean Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:02 am
i lol’d
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:59 am
http://derstandard.at/fs/1250003797938/Herbstkollektion-Touchdigicam-und-Full-HD-Camcorder-von-Canon
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:59 am
I agree it sure looks real to me, but I’m not sure how you are all jumping to the conculsion that it is FF? COULD be (and I have no idea) to the 1D as the 5D is to the 1Ds correct?
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Indeed… that’s what I’m thinking, perhaps with EF-S compatibility. It’s the only thing that makes sense to me right now.
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:03 am
hrm…… 7D anyone ?
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:03 am
http://www.dpreview.com/
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Sean Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Yep, all P&S today it looks like.
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:04 am
Here’s the Canon linup for today =), no EOS
http://derstandard.at/fs/1250003797938/Herbstkollektion-Touchdigicam-und-Full-HD-Camcorder-von-Canon
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Gona commit suicide
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Dr Death Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Do it. Do it! And take a picture. Obviously not on your 60D or 7D because they don’t exist…
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:06 am
FAKE, look at the sharpening, trying to make some christmas effect to hide the truth it’s just a fake like we had for the 5D mark II during months…
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Christmas effect?? Like snow? Or christmas tree lights?
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Looks real but is probably fake. Its 2.08pm in UK now. When is this announcement happening? f5 f5 f5!
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Apparently no SLRs today. Bummer.
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:10 am
OK..back to real life :D
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:12 am
grrr… i hope next time … why not the 25 … :)
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Nonetheless, the cameras released today more-or-less corroborate the Best Buy dude’s claims about what was in their inventory system. Let’s hope he was telling the truth and that there was really a 7D coming too!
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:29 am
It very well could be real…
EXIF SubIFD @ Absolute 0×00000100
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File Offset: 0 bytes
Chroma subsampling: 2×1
EXIF Make/Model: OK [SONY] [DSC-H1]
EXIF Makernotes: OK
EXIF Software: NONE
While the EXIF fields indicate original, no compression signatures in the current database were found matching this make/model.
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:34 am
explanations please. what does this mean?
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Ed Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
It means that it seems the photo hasn´t suffered any alteration in photoshop or the likes.
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:29 am
I told you : the 25th
No reflex today
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:36 am
[...] 7D: we zijn weer vertrokken Met de geruchtenmolen: http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/08/real-or-not/ en http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/08/7…p-at-best-buy/ __________________ Canon Eos 30D & [...]
August 19th, 2009 at 8:38 am
In my opinion this is real. Or someone had a lot of time to fake it wery well. You can download the file and read thou the EXIF (or look below). NOTE THE PICTURE AQUISITION TIME. I’ve dowlnloaded it ca. 15:15 CET so the picture had to be done in far east (not surprising as the site is Korean). The camera has the flash button. Any ideas on FF in this regard?
here comes the exif
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MeteringMode – Multi-segment
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ExifImageHeight – 583
InteroperabilityOffset – 2266
FileSource – DSC – Digital still camera
SceneType – A directly photographed image
CustomRendered – Normal process
ExposureMode – Auto
White Balance – Auto
SceneCaptureType – Standard
Contrast – Normal
Saturation – Normal
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no Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:45 am
yeah yeah, someone already posted this
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Who cares about P&S
well at least canon. :(
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restless Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:47 am
this is a 7D thread no p&s
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:12 am
FART!
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:12 am
http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=canon_d30_forum&no=2325556
this pic shows the kit of 7D with EF 24-105L IS USM lense, which i supose means that it will be a full frame (if it is real also)!!!
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Oliver Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Only problem with that box is that I can’t see the lines that would make up the pop-up flash that is suggested by the earlier picture.
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rod Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Sorry to say that is a photoshoped 5D Classic box with the 24-105.
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gords Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:33 am
i think this is the same “fake” photo of the “7D” box that was posted here previously. if you read the comments in korean, they call it out that the photo is a fake and the op admits that he was just playing around and posted a picture he found on the internet. unfortunately, this won’t provide any more info about the 7D…
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mike Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:44 am
THIS is clearly a fake – look at the 7
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Oh the pain of waiting is excruciating
I hope the price of the 7D will be reasonable,
just hope my wait for an upgrade is worth it
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:22 am
probably fake…. from upside looks similar with the good old 5D… (look at the dial: auto, P, Tv, Av, B, M, C)
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afrank99 Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:26 am
There is no dial in this photo!?
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janisfarm Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
i mean the photo with the box, posted previously by me:
http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=canon_d30_forum&no=2325556
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:26 am
7 looks fake
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:28 am
Yup, fake ! it is the exact form of the 5D, no video nor flash.
The first pic seems more interesting.
Fingers crossed.
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Isurus Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:39 am
It has a pop-up flash button, so it is not the exact same form as the 5D. More like an xxD body.
Still think it is fake though.
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Survivor Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Totally fake.
This is from an old rumor…
http://www.prophotoshow.net/blog/2008/08/05/eos-5d-mkii-eos-7d-yet-another-rumor/
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Survivor Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Actually, even older rumor – lol.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/trancemist/1485277658/
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no Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:50 am
umm, that’s totally different.
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Survivor Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:53 am
umm…it is totally the same as the second photo of the box we are discussing.
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:35 am
I don’t know I lived in Korea for three years and I remember both the 50D and the 5D Mark II having leaked photos before they were released. Again, they didn’t last long on the site, it looks like slrclub.com was testing adds that would eventually go up full time once the cameras were released.
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Whoo hooooooo
A nice talking printer! And yes, because of all the received feedback showed us it’s a key feature: There’s direct print too!
You even can make voicecall to start it! Isn’t that cool?
I am really really so happy right now !!!!!!!
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:43 am
So far the Best Buy rumor has been correct therefore the 7D should be shipping with an EF 28-135 and not the 24-105.
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Anonymous Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Hoping it would be a new version of this lens ! It has been such a long time Canon did not renew its medium EF lenses !
This kit could be explained by the price of the 7D which should be less expensive than 5D and by the fact that 7D is FF so it can not be sold with 17-85.
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Dear CR Guy,
There’s a lot of talking about useless P&S shizzle and usefull DSLR’s, but is there any information about lenses that are really needed in the Canon Community, like:
Canon EF 35 1.8 USM (replacement of 35 2.0)
Canon EF 50 1.4 USM II (ring-USM)
Canon EF 100 2.8 Macro IS USM (Hybrid IS thing)
Canon EF 200 2.8 Macro L IS USM (replacement of the 180 3.5 and the 200 2.8)
Canon EF-s 17-85 f/4 IS USM (replacement of the 17-85, which had bad reviews)
?
I will buy them all!!
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Good post and about time somebody spoke up. The point and shoots should be further down the food chain after the SLR bodies and lenses. It is infuriating that we get worked up about these announcements but are fed a load of information on toy cameras for children.
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frankchn Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Canon’s PnS division is probably brings in more revenue than its SLR lens division.
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I am 100% with you.
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Anonymous Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
You guys are idiots, point and shoot is how Canon makes alot of their money, just because you don’t care about it doesn’t mean the site admin should neglect it, idiots.
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:51 am
according to my canon service point’s boss, there will be NO 7d, but next month a D4 with video.
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:08 am
A D4 with video eh? Firstly, who cares, and secondly, what makes your CANON service points boss an expert on Nikon? We all know there will be either a 60D or a 7D, so if this clown you speak of denies there is a 7D, then one must assume either he doesn’t have a clue, or there is a 60D coming.
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Doug Laurent Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:34 am
i mean not d4, i mean a 1d4
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Nobody wants a 7D. If Canon can’t make a camera to compete with the 300D then there is no point in carrying on. What we all need is a fast camera (8fps like the D300) that can match the D300 at high iso settings. Is that too much to ask? Who cares about another FF 3.9fps camera? Save up and buy the 5D instead if you like the sound of that so much. Canon have until the first week of September to meet my demands or I will walk into the first store I see and purchase a D300 and will auction off all my Canon gear and never come back again.
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Survivor Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:00 am
I feel exactly the same way. I am ready to buy now and if Canon doesn’t have the product – Hello Nikon!
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JohnG Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:16 am
So long John Swan…..
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Anonymous Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 2:30 am
King of the douche bags.
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:59 am
At first glance (looking at the thumbnail) I say it is fake. However after looking at the bigger image I would venture to say it is real. I am pretty darn good a Photoshop and to do this a fake is really excellent work. There are a lot of very minor details they went through to make it a fake- if it is a fake. Not saying it can’t be done, but, too time consuming to get it to look that good. I would almost say it is the real thing.
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Talk about blowing ones own trumpet.
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August 19th, 2009 at 9:59 am
CANON STRIKE BACK !!! KNOCK NIKON OUT ;)
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:03 am
With 3.9fps? Don’t make me laugh. The D300 is twice as fast as that. I would rather have the speed over what I would expect to be very little difference in picture quality.
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Kenji Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Keep in mind the D300 drops to 2.5fps the moment you want 14-bit processing :)
but i agree, i dont want full frame, i like crop and i dont want to see ANOTHER stupid full frame camera :/
And i dont want a 1D because a Mk2 has equal noise performance to what i have, a mk3 is too expensive and id lose compatability with my 10-20
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Nick Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:32 am
the d300 is also a crop body……
not the same class of camera homie
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Anonymous Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 2:31 am
John Swan needs 6fps at least to get shots of his ego.
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:00 am
is that an ap-c lens ????????????
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Hi, can you please keep the comments here specific to the 7D? Who mentioned anything about lenses?
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Anonymous Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:10 am
LOL
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ossme Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
It does matter very much since if that was an ap-c then this is not a full frame camera.
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Fakir,,, do direct pront button,,,
what’d ya expect, all desperation,,,, £]
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Ever thought about stand up comedy?
No… didn’t think so.
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:04 am
first photo looks real. Second is fake. The body in the first looks very similar to 50D, but the badge is a completely different style/position. Also letters are embossed, unlike either 50D or 5DII. Mic holes are different from 5DII.
Does anyone know what lens is attached in the first? The focus/IS switch that is partially visible is very close to the lens mount, and recessed (as in some newer designs) – I don’t recognize it. Also can’t see the red dot/white square. Is it possible it’s an EF-S lens?
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:12 am
I can’t see any pictures – I click that link and I am sent to a page with only Chinese letters and no pictures.
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:07 am
THis is bad news now EF-S lens owners. What does this mean for the AS-C xxD line?
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Why is it bad news for them? They knew when they bought them that they could never mount them on a FF body, and as technology develops and the market gets competitive of course it will get to the stage where FF cameras can be produced cheaply. It’s not as though their cameras and lenses suddenly stop working, there will still be APS-C cameras at entry level who these lenses will be an attractive second hand buy for.
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Henk Van Oosterom Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Why bad news?
I think it’s a smart move to make the xxD fullframe.
xxxxD and xxxD can be APS-c and xxD and xD can be APS.
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Oh, crap. If this picture is real, it’s NOT full frame.
Look closely at that lens mounted. Pull out an EOS with an EF lens mounted on it. If that were an EF lens, there would be a red dot visible in the picture diagonal from the flash release button.
It would work if it were an EF-S lens, though. The white square would be lower and out of the frame.
EF-S means APS-C sensor size.
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Provide a link to the picture you are speaking about please.
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Allan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Um. It’s the one at the top of this very post. You can’t just scroll up?
http://www.canonrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/7D.jpg
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:19 am
I saw that one. People are referring to a second picture showing a lens mounted?
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Allan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:22 am
No, just the one picture. There’s a lens mounted in it. You can only see a little bit of the base, but that little bit of base you can see would have a red dot on it if it were an EF lens.
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Sorry, but it is absolutely impossible to determine anything about the lens with that picture.
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Allan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Yes it is. Go look at any EF lens ever made. Look at where the red mounting-alignment dot is. It’s in the same place on every EF lens (for obvious reasons). Mounted on a camera, it always falls in the same spot. That spot would be between the lens release button and the flash pop-up button.
Compare this with the white square of an EF-S lens, which is further down the lens, and which would therefore land just out of frame.
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Dave Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:31 am
You are incorrect.
Some lenses like the 85 f/1.2L II have the red dot hidden underneath the barrel, flush with the lens mount
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Allan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Hm, I stand corrected.
Well, let’s hope that’s the case, then.
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Allan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:40 am
…although I just looked through Canon’s current lens lineup and the 50/1.2 and 85/1.2 are the only ones for which that’s true. It’s clearly not the 85/1.2, so that just leaves the 50/1.2 as a possibility.
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Tom Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:44 am
yes, looks to me also like it could be a 50/1.2, nothing else I’ve seen matches so well.
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Allan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:56 am
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/images-56/50mm-12.jpg
http://media.the-digital-picture.com/Images/Other/Canon-EF-50mm-f-1.2-L-USM-Lens-on-1Ds-Mark-III.jpg
The 50/1.2’s switch is way higher on the lens body. It’s not the 50/1.2.
So… APS-C. :-/
gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Concur with Allan – not the 50mm f/1.2.
Justin Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
I think it is the 85ii. It matches. Or it’s a new lens! Which would be very good indeed. 35ii anyone?
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Exactly. Some people think they have all the answers.
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Allan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Fine, fine.
To restate: Assuming it’s not using a previously unreleased lens with its red dot in a different-from-normal spot, and assuming it’s not using a third-party lens I’m not familiar with, the lens in this picture appears to be an EF-S lens, which means (unless they’ve done some wackiness with the fundamental operation of the reflex mirror) it’s an APS-C camera.
Better?
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Allan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:29 am
(Although I suppose it’s possible that it’s a third-party lens. But that switch you can see a little bit of looks the same as the switch on my Canon EF-S 18-55)
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Kevin Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:23 am
The lens is mounted in that pic.
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Allan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Also, that 7D logo isn’t the same shape as the logo for the 5DII, original 5D, or 50D. Which lends some credence to the “It’s real” theory–it’s not just a case of replacing a 50 with a 7 and adding some microphone holes.
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:41 am
I just checked this too… there’s no model (that I’m aware of) with a badge layout that looks like that, not to mention the very real-looking microphone holes.
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:27 am
You might be right…that would be really weird if they changed the model numbering system to XD but not the sensor size. Weirdness…
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:13 am
looks like 10-22 lens!
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Are you serious?
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JG Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:24 am
It is NOT the 10-22
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Tom Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:36 am
it’s not a 10-22mm, the switch style is different. It is more similar to the design of the IS switch on the 55-250mm, but not sure. If you brighten the picture you can see the switch is at the bottom of a panel that sticks out from the main lens body. Could it be a new EF-s lens?
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:22 am
I have looked EXTREMELY closly and can confirm that this is a real picture. The 7D is upon us. But sorry, we will not be buying another FF 3.9fps camera, we want a fast camera that can compete with the D300 in low light at high iso settings.
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Nick Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:35 am
jesus. Buy a used 1dmk2n and get over it.
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:28 am
I have managed to obtain a picture from another source here showing more at the lens area.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=32722570
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Survivor Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:43 am
That is the exact same picture…
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:40 am
I’m a PS guru – this is fake.
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how informative... Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:19 am
wow, great post!
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TheJBJ Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Thank goodness Anonymous came along. You’re insight is invaluable! I guess that pretty much sums it up for all of us. Fake. Thanks again Anonymous for your expert opinion.
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test Reply:
September 4th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
looks like you were wrong
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:41 am
It looks like a modified 50D body. The lines are the same, but it looks like they changed the top face:
http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS50D/images/3qtr-001.jpg
Also, the lens looks like it’s an EF-S, because the white dot is low enough, and the red dot would be higher. Further, I think it’s the EF-S 18-55 IS II
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-S-18-55mm-f-3.5-5.6-IS-Lens-Review.aspx
Scroll down to the part where he has different lenses that you can see with the mouse over.
-The 28-135 IS has the red dot too high. The white dots are low enough.
-The switches for the 18-55 IS seem to line up best with the slight bump down.
Which likely means that it’s an APS-C sensor (or at least accepts EF-S lenses). Assuming that, you can then say that the rumors involving the APS-C sensor are probably true:
-8fps
-15 or 12 MP
-slightly better weather seals (like 5d II, nothing really great)
-good HD video
-and many of the things DPP can do, but on the camera
What do you think?
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Eric Ferguson Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:46 am
I think that if you’re right, I will be really, really happy. Canon has to keep some investment in the ASP-C world so as not to leave all of us ER-S lens owners high and dry.
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:08 am
I think you have too much time on your hands, but your reasoning is good.
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regular Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:08 am
The photo has a lot of distorsion, I dont know what to think.
This 7D’s left “shoulder” looks very short and curvy, like a small body. Or the original 5D.
I use the mouse-over picture here as a reference :
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-II-DSLR-Digital-Camera-Review.aspx
But you are right about the IS switch position. It looks like a 18-55, but someone would need to double-check on the full catalogue :)
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Anonymous Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Why not a FF camera that would accept EF-S mount ? Same way as nikon did with DX.
That would make sense : this would be the camera between XXD and XD world.
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Joe Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:31 am
I agree.. the lens is one of 3: 18-55, 18-200, or 55-250.. Those are the only options with the given picture
The 7d still could be full frame
* If I were marketing this (FF) camera, EVERY picture would have an EF-S lens on it! Just to show it’s compatibility with all lenses, and ability to crop in camera. It could be the cameras selling point.
It also would justify the $2700 price. “FF camera with ability to use your EF-S lenses”
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Rob Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:52 am
While that would be nice, I think the pentaprism would be too big. Maybe an APS-H?
Here is the see through version of the 5D II. I was unable to find a see through 50D for comparison.
http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS5DMarkII/Images/specsview.jpg
Do you think that amount of stuff could be squeezed into anything smaller?
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
APS-H with EF-S capability makes the most sense to me… otherwise why change the naming convention? And if it were FF would it not seem a bit strange selling alongside the 5DII?
Not to say that I think it ought to be APS-H…the whole thing seems pretty weird to me these days.
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Joe Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I think the APS-H makes the most sense for a sports version of the 5d II. If it had 12mp on an APC-H it would be exactly the same pixel size as the 5d2.
So, in theory, it would have the same Hi-ISO ability as the 5d2. It would have the extra reach, and most likely 10-12 FPS.
If these were the specs, I would imagine that 95% of the upgrades would be from the xxD series users. So the ability to use their EF-S lenses could be the deciding factor.
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Agreed. And the crop factor that would be applied for EF-S lenses would actually be reasonable – you maintain 66% of your full resolution. For 16MP APS-H -> 10.6MP APS-C. I think. Most EF-S lenses don’t resolve very well beyond that point anyway. It makes sense in a weird kind of way.
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:47 am
I´m thinking that a xD series, can´t mount an APS-C sensor…xxD series perhaps…
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John Swan Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:52 am
If the 7D was APS-H and 8fps – now that is the camera we all want. It would be the D300 killer, without a doubt.
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August 19th, 2009 at 11:19 am
The thing that buggers me off the most is that I want to upgrade my 450D. Yes, I want to throw money at Canon, but none of their current line up are tempting. Surely they’re missing a trick if customers want to buy their gubbins but they have holes in their line-up?
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August 19th, 2009 at 11:22 am
What was on the brink of a 50d or d90. Frankly the d90 was winning despite the 50d being in a slightly different grade than the d90.
I think the price of the new canon will play a large part in its success or failure. The new d300s is 1800 body only plus 850ish for the new VRII 18-200 lens.
If they come out with one and it’s 2700 (best buy rumor) with a 28-135 lens, that seems expensive.
I want a body and lens for 2K myself.
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? Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:24 am
I mean to say “well I was on the brink of a 50d or d90″
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Henk Van Oosterom Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:36 am
dollars/euro/pound?
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? Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
USD
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ZT Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Yeah, $2K would be the ideal price range and would actually make sense. Otherwise 5DMII would seem a way to go…
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August 19th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Stupid question, if this is a brand new cam, why does the logo look like it has been through the desert of Iraq? It looks “dusty”, not “shiny matte black” like one would expect.
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Glass Man Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:48 am
threadwinner
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Wuck Chestfall Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Thanks. I’m the man as usual. All the rest of you equipment rubbers don’t have my lynx eyes.
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? Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Maybe it’s a demo cam or someone is testing it for them. I don’t think this is enough to disqualify this image as fake.
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August 19th, 2009 at 11:48 am
I passed it thru several filters and all looks very real even the inverted colors which is easy to spot a fake.
Only real problems are the aliasing on the 7 lines and the perfect horizontal pixel line in the top part of the seven. The rest of the image is somewhat anti aliased.
Still this could be real but shot perfectly horizontal and with a crappy camera in this case the EXIF says:
Camera Make: SONY
Camera Model: DSC-H1
Image Date: 2009:08:19 16:20:27
Flash Used: Yes (Manual, return light detected)
Focal Length: 10.0mm
Exposure Time: 0.125 s (1/8)
Aperture: f/4.0
ISO equiv: 64
White Balance: Auto
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: program (Auto)
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August 19th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
It’s real.
Just look at the curve of the part of camera where the flash button is. It almost makes a smooth curve into the area where the 7d badge is placed.
Now, bust out google image search and compare it with the 5dmk2 (totally different angle, different position for mic holes, drastically different top piece where the control dial would be), Rebel t1i (similar mic holes, but the 7d is way bigger, room for a dial above the badge), 50d (the area with the flash button is not nearly as curved, the 7d has a more aerodynamic look).
The 7d photo looks very much like the 50d in overall design and configuation, with added mic holes. But the fact that there is a different curve to the body where the flash button is, suggests very strongly that this photo is legit. It’s one thing to fake a badge and add mic holes, but it’s something totally different, and barely plausible, to think that someone took the time to design a new shape.
I say myth confirmed and we’re looking at the successor to the 50d. Now, I’m just hoping they officially announce it soon. The 1d4 announcement on 9/1 seems pretty solid, maybe they’ll announce the 1d4 and 7d… and the rebel t1.
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Chris Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
+1
Though I would guess the redesign of the body suggests a new product category. I expect a 60D in addition to this one.
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August 19th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
THEY JUST RELEASED THE NEW CAMERAS EVERYONE !!!!!
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Anonymous Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
wtf?
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Anonymous Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
any proof?
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August 19th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Looks fairly real. That angle and feel is hard to fake but, there’s always a chance.
Overall though i think this is real plus the Best Buy sku# thing.
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August 19th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
A number of people checked this image through Photoshop and it does look real. Whether the badge itself is from a real camera or not – thats another question. Also, it really bugs me that how come whoever took this pic did not take the pic of the whole camera??? Why zoom into a small detail (badge) and not get the whole camera pic??? Unles this is an “officially leaked teaser” from Canon ;)
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Anonymous Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
yeah i agree.
but maybe the one who took this picture was Canon’s underlings, with the intention to torture us to death haha
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Canon Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
You can bet you 70-200 that’s what we did!
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Anonymous Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
if so, then yeah, you succeeded alright.
we got killed
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Canon Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
We iz winrar. Big time winrar.
We haz new 7D. You no.
You Fail.
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Wuck Chestfall Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
So how is the “JPEG anger quality of photometry for great justice” of the 7D? Is it the high-kicking sheznit compared to the D3/D700 sensor?
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Canon Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
D3/D700 are really bad, because they are made by Nikon.
Canon is better.
Full stop.
Go back to boredom.
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Wuck Chestfall Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
j00==teh cr*ppy
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Chris Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
+1
The photo is WAY too much of a tease to be anything but an official Canon leak.
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August 19th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Price??? If the Best Buy info turned out to be correct, then the price is likely to be correct. I like everything I’m hearing about the 7D, except the price.
fingers crossed…
Chris
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August 19th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Oh yeah, and BTW, talking Selphy printer==TEH WINNAR is j00!1one
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August 19th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
[...] Real or Not? [...]
August 19th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Based on shadowing on the left side angle of the seven being very strong and not consistent with other similar angles within the label it’s a fake, but very will done with this one exception.
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Bob Reply:
August 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Correct. There is a problem with the lighting/shadows. And if you look very closely, you can see that the rubber-gap around the logo is photoshopped. The logo itself looks like a cutout from a Minolta Dynax. The picture is 100% fake – but a very well done fake.
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August 19th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
On the other hand, now that all PS (sorry – P&S) new “cameras” and the talking printer (I bet all the blonds were waiting for it patiently for quite a while now) got out of the way, all rumors can concentrate on something that might (or might not) represent a real technological achievement by Canon – a new dSLR. Now the real countdown begins. Too bad nobody knows when it ends, but thats another story. Maybe next time Canon will “leak” a new neck strap or something….
In the mean time people keep giving their hard earned cash to Nikon… I’m sure Canon has a plan, its just nobody can figure it out.
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August 19th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Why would the price a lower end model so similarly to the 5D?
Also, if that price is correct, there’s no way they’d kill off the 60D.
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August 19th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Ok so my predication is that it is real that it is ff that it is lower mpx and we get the other things we want including more fps and af points. Weather seal would be a bonus but could be possible given the redesign that may or may not be hinted at by this little photo leak.
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August 19th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Too bad the picture does not show the design of the new direct print button :-(
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August 19th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
ALL FELLOW RUMOUR-MONGERS
*** IMPORTANT ***
THE 7D IS REAL & WILL BE LAUNCHED 01/09/2009 – USA & EUROPE
IT IS A FULL-FRAME CMOS 21+ MP (36MM X 24MM)
LIVE-VIEW
3″ LCD
HDMI
9 FPS
21 AF ASSIST POINTS
57 AF POINTS
DUAL MEM CARDS – CF & SD
DIGIC 4 PROCESSOR
POP-UP FLASH
PLEASE NOTE:
***D designation camera = entry-level/beginner
**D designation camera = Amateur/Enthusiast/Intermediate
*D designation camera = Professional/PhotoJournalists/Rich
This is a 7D – totally high-end professional camera.
I will be at the PRESS LAUNCH
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Wuck Chestfall Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Teh funney. You don’t even understand Canon’s naming convention. If we take your specs then the cam should have a higher designation than the 5D2, therefore lower number (3D). j00==bad math
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David Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
and it came out 8 months ago…”launched 1/09/2009″
He’s smoking too many direct print buttons
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Actually in many if not most parts of the world dates are written DAY/MONTH/YEAR.
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Cocorito Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
I can’t believe it. It would be better than 1dsmarkIII.
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Mr. chammy… are we to assume, then, that the XXD line will continue undeterred in APS-C world??
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ABC Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
This would be a great cam, but as others have noted, this would place the 7D as a far superior model to the 5dmkii, which would violate the naming convention.
Also, if this were true, it would sell for far more than the 5dmkii and far more than in the best buy rumor.
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August 19th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
A logo! Wow, I’ve got wood!
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I’d prefer not to know what happens to you when it’s released.
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gwac Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
The camera, that is.
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August 19th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
The image looks official like a referee’s whistle!
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August 19th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
i vote fake the pixels are perfectly level with the 7 and the lines on the d
not that i know enough about photoshop to agrue my point
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August 19th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
“I waited on a T-shirt and all I got was this 7D.”
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August 19th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
The body in that picture is completely wrong for a Canon body. The flash button is on the same plane as the badge, it should be should be on the lens mount like all other canon DSLR’s with popup flash.
The badge itself is the wrong shape, it’s completely different from every other Canon DSLR badge.
Big manufacturers like consistency with things like this in their products, it helps to keep manufacturing costs down.
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frankchn Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
The 50D has the button level with the badge: http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/CanonEOS50D/images/3qtr-001.jpg
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August 19th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Guys if you take the time to compare this image with every other Canon DSLR out there you’ll see this is an evolution from the 50D body style, but the logo is completely different. Given that this is a new line it makes sense for a new logo style.
You can’t take an image of an existing body just photoshop it. It would be less work to build a plastic shell, which this would be if it is fake. The image is real and since its unlikely somebody would take all that work to make a plastic shell, I say the 7D is real.
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August 19th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
i just figured out the image! it’s not aps-c, it is a 50mm f/1.2 lens!!!! there is no red dot as it is on the inner part of the camera where it mounts!!!!
check out this other image from the url below. look at the June 2 2009 image
“2009 June 4th How about a new ‘x’D camera?”
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_7d.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39108325@N07/3595616160/
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mike Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
it also has the same type of manual/auto focus switch!!!!
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or8it Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Don’t think it is.
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-50mm-f-1.2-L-USM-Lens-Review.aspx
Scroll down to the side shot of the 50mm mounted on the EOS1. The manual/af switch is different. It has a double bevel around it.
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mike Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
this can easily be the 85mm 1.2l then.. as there is no ribbed section and is consistent without a red dot
http://www.usa.canon.com/app/images/EOS_2006/EF85_f12LIIUSM/ef85mm_586×225.jpg
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Pyrolistical Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Its not a 50mm 1.2
Look at this:
http://diglloyd.com/diglloyd/free/LensReference/canon/EF50mm-f1_2L.jpg
It does not look like the lens on the 7D
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Pyrolistical Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Its this:
http://www.popphoto.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/reviews/lenses/lens-test-canon-ef-s-18-55mm-f-3.5-5.6-is/53510-7-eng-US/Lens-Test-Canon-EF-S-18-55mm-f-3.5-5.6-IS_top_image_popup.jpg
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zach Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
its a 24 to 105 f/4 l is
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August 19th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
This photo is most definitely leaked from canon.. if you think about it.. it showed up today when everybody was checking what canon is going to announce.. but all there was were P&S, and they kind of wanted to hold us in the loop with the leaked info about the most talked about eos
..my 2cents..€
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August 19th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Unless the 50d is designed differently from my 40d and 20d sitting next to me, the position of the screw next to the lens mount in this picture is different from other xxD-series cameras, indicating another detail that would have had to have been manipulated if this is a fake. A full pixel peep makes this look pretty good. For those of you saying that the 7D specs mentioned don’t compete with the D300S, I’d like to remind you that the 7D specs list it as full frame. Full frame trumps the D300S autofocus system and the frames per second. Unless you’re spraying and praying or doing pro sports (in which case you’d have the 1D III or a 50D), 3.9 fps is plenty fast. People are just grasping for things to whine about these days… This gives you a more affordable way to maximize your 24-70 and other L lenses which have always been designed with the full frame in mind (17-40 excluded). As for the video, last time I checked a camera at this price point is designed for PHOTOGRAPHERS, not videographers. I understand the need for it on a 1D III replacement for sports, but the 7D does not need a video mode. If you want video mode, buy a friggin’ video camera. Sheesh.
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August 19th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
If this was an FF camera, it could not take the EF-S lense that appears to be mounted on it. If it was an EF lense mounted, the red alignement dot would be visible in the picture.
It is not, so 7D is not FF.
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August 19th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
The 7D doesn’t have a mirror. It uses live view only, hence it can use EF-S on FF.
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Pyrolistical Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
And hence 8 fps on FF
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Lopas Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
lol sure.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
The best buy rumor, which we are now using as the gold standard since it proved accurate with the P&S models, states that there will be a kit for the 7D with the 28-135 lens. That’s the same lens packaged with the 50D; you can walk into any best buy and see for yourself.
This will be an APS-C camera with the same kit lens as the 50D.
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August 19th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
The only APS-C I want for that kind of money is the 1Di:
http://www.canonrumors.com/2008/10/canon-eos-1di/
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Absolutely accurate that we should be seeing a red dot if it were traditional full frame. BUT, the image is inconsistent with an EF-S lens as well, meaning this could be an entirely re-designed mounting system that may accept both EF and EF-S lenses on a full frame camera. If they were going to build a 7D, it would have to be a bridge between the xxD series and the traditional xD series. That may very well be what we are looking at. I have a hard time imagining Canon building the 7D with an APS-C sensor given the market gravitation towards FF. A 12mp, FF camera that accepts EF and EF-S lenses (in a crop mode, possibly with faster frames per second), would slaughter the D300s on the market, given equal pricing. Canon brought us the 5d Mark I when few thought a FF camera could be financially accessible to the prosumer. An FF 7D would represent a continuation with that line of thought.
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
As for the 28-135 lens package indicating it’s APS-C, what lens do you think they’d package with a prosumer FF? A 70-300?? The 28-135 makes the most sense. The 24-105mm would put the kit too far into the pro pricing arena. This is supposed to be the working man’s full frame.
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August 19th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
This photo is way to sharp.
I only believe blurry shaky shots taken with a cell phone (“Sorry about the quality” shots).
LOL
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Any reason why Canon wouldn’t release BOTH a 7D FF and a 60D APS-C over the next month or so? Everyone seems to be talking about “Either / Or” but I think there’s a market for both a scaled down FF for low noise and a higher-end APS-C with fast FPS.
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PanozJim Reply:
August 19th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
I totally agree and would be tempted to buy both. Want the best crop camera with extra speed? Here ya go. Want a FF for a better price but not hung up on huge MP and speed? Here ya go.
Which form of payment will you be using today?
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
7D will be called kiss Rebel Ass X7i in Japan
Google it!
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August 19th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Oh I meant BING it!
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August 21st, 2009 at 4:33 am
For the Logics somethings els now:
Why 7D ???
Ok, let’s count the future editions: 7D, 8D, 9D, 10D, 10D???
Oops, I have a 20D (already!). And I am looking for a good 2nd hand 40D (since the 50D ended up in a kind of marketing failure). I hope that Canon will be back right on track with the 60D.
Actually, at this stage the improvements and the innovative moves should come from the lens corner. Find a way to make L-lenses become at least 50% less expensive.
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