Comments on: *UPDATE* Canon Patents http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/ You gotta know Sun, 21 Mar 2010 02:23:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Paul Smith Shoes http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-32486 Paul Smith Shoes Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:25:50 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-32486 Many people have alos become fans of <a href="http://www.newpaulsmith.com/paul-smith-shoes-c-518.html" rel="nofollow">Paul Smith Shoes</a> since they came into the market. I also one of them , I very like <a href="http://www.newpaulsmith.com/paul-smith-wallets-c-521.html" rel="nofollow"> Paul Smith Wallets </a> and <a <a href="http://www.newpaulsmith.com/paul-smith-belt-multi-stripe-100-leather-100-pewter- buckle-p-21559.html">Paul Smith Belts</a>,It designs very good. Many people have alos become fans of Paul Smith Shoes since they came into the market. I also one of them , I very like Paul Smith Wallets and <a Paul Smith Belts,It designs very good.

]]> By: sirimiri http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26749 sirimiri Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:32:03 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26749 One thing's for sure: given the exploded diagram and nature of lens groupings as visible in very detailed patent drawings on the 20090232483.PDF - this is certainly no SLR lens. Given the nature of others' comments regarding video feed, it could be a highly-integrated video component of a point-and-shoot variety, or a new video camera about to be released. Anyway, it's non-SLR, so I'm not that piqued. One thing’s for sure: given the exploded diagram and nature of lens groupings as visible in very detailed patent drawings on the 20090232483.PDF – this is certainly no SLR lens.

Given the nature of others’ comments regarding video feed, it could be a highly-integrated video component of a point-and-shoot variety, or a new video camera about to be released.

Anyway, it’s non-SLR, so I’m not that piqued.

]]> By: gwac http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26669 gwac Fri, 18 Sep 2009 05:05:05 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26669 Oh, man, Johnny's gonna LOVE that one. Oh, man, Johnny’s gonna LOVE that one.

]]> By: Nokin http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26663 Nokin Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:32:14 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26663 Groundbreaking...literally. Groundbreaking…literally.

]]> By: mucher http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26662 mucher Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:21:50 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26662 People has measued that Canon camera's noise is mostly generated during the Read phrase, so the first patent might be able to greatly improve image quality. The 3 patent is almost the same as 2nd one might be more detailed. The 4th patent is the machinery of patent No.2 and 3, which looking like a powershot or camcorder lense to me. People has measued that Canon camera’s noise is mostly generated during the Read phrase, so the first patent might be able to greatly improve image quality.

The 3 patent is almost the same as 2nd one might be more detailed.

The 4th patent is the machinery of patent No.2 and 3, which looking like a powershot or camcorder lense to me.

]]> By: mucher http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26657 mucher Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:27:10 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26657 The first patent seemingly to me(too long to finish) is to read image sensor vertically and horizonally asychonously, then average the two value to remove noise(noise values are also averaged). We can expect super clean image if applied, but I worry about color accuracy though. The second one is an active image stablizing system which an analog system readout the vibration, 2 ADC(?)convert that to digital signal, after calculating that signal, a movable part (in the lens or not it didn't say, very likely is in the lense) is driven to compensate. The first patent seemingly to me(too long to finish) is to read image sensor vertically and horizonally asychonously, then average the two value to remove noise(noise values are also averaged). We can expect super clean image if applied, but I worry about color accuracy though.

The second one is an active image stablizing system which an analog system readout the vibration, 2 ADC(?)convert that to digital signal, after calculating that signal, a movable part (in the lens or not it didn’t say, very likely is in the lense) is driven to compensate.

]]> By: calbot http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26656 calbot Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:23:47 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26656 LMAO.... particularly useful in California and Japan. LMAO…. particularly useful in California and Japan.

]]> By: calbot http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26655 calbot Fri, 18 Sep 2009 03:22:52 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26655 Being a patent troll isn't about R&D. Its about prospecting turning into anti-competitive conduct. IBM is notorious for doing this, to the dismay of many in the industry and joy of law firms. Just search "IBM patent troll." They even tried to patent being a patent troll. Chilling effect on innovation I'd say. Being a patent troll isn’t about R&D. Its about prospecting turning into anti-competitive conduct. IBM is notorious for doing this, to the dismay of many in the industry and joy of law firms. Just search “IBM patent troll.”

They even tried to patent being a patent troll. Chilling effect on innovation I’d say.

]]> By: Rox http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26653 Rox Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:46:32 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26653 The point here is I feel there is a kind of maturing on how patent are handled. Being the first in patents quantity will not necessary put you first market wise. But, focusing on your best patents and be first on the market will keep you ahead of the competitors. Canon is a bit like Big Blue, being very well vertically integrated (having their own R&D and fab, from silicon to final product, with no one in the middle that you need to depend on). Patents could protect your technologies, but if you spend to much money on your technologies and don't do enough money with it, what is your final gain. So, the new rule is something like this: "less patents with a greater focus on getting more money from your best one". That should be our new trend. R&D is freaking expensive, we should not stop it, but use it more wisely. There is nothing new here... but living it is another story. I believe Canon made a mistake lately (let say within the last 3 years)... they under estimated Nikon and thought they were kind of alone. They played the game of minor updates in their newer model (50D for example) and opened the door to Nikon. I'm Canon and I know they have excellent product, but it's not that clear who has the lead right now (yes in quantity sold, but I mean leadership). They are getting better, 5DII is a good example. Next 1D(1Ds) should confirm that as well. 7D on paper is not bad either (still questioning the 18MP though, but we will see). If we come back to Big Blue, we still have the lead in what we do best, but it's a freaking race to stay first... end of comments The point here is I feel there is a kind of maturing on how patent are handled. Being the first in patents quantity will not necessary put you first market wise. But, focusing on your best patents and be first on the market will keep you ahead of the competitors. Canon is a bit like Big Blue, being very well vertically integrated (having their own R&D and fab, from silicon to final product, with no one in the middle that you need to depend on). Patents could protect your technologies, but if you spend to much money on your technologies and don’t do enough money with it, what is your final gain. So, the new rule is something like this: “less patents with a greater focus on getting more money from your best one”. That should be our new trend. R&D is freaking expensive, we should not stop it, but use it more wisely. There is nothing new here… but living it is another story.

I believe Canon made a mistake lately (let say within the last 3 years)… they under estimated Nikon and thought they were kind of alone. They played the game of minor updates in their newer model (50D for example) and opened the door to Nikon. I’m Canon and I know they have excellent product, but it’s not that clear who has the lead right now (yes in quantity sold, but I mean leadership). They are getting better, 5DII is a good example. Next 1D(1Ds) should confirm that as well. 7D on paper is not bad either (still questioning the 18MP though, but we will see).

If we come back to Big Blue, we still have the lead in what we do best, but it’s a freaking race to stay first… end of comments

]]> By: Lindsay http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26651 Lindsay Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:11:21 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26651 Maybe it's IS for photocopiers Maybe it’s IS for photocopiers

]]> By: why-can't-canon-swivel http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26650 why-can't-canon-swivel Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:10:04 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26650 I read that Pentax has managed to add stabilization to camera rotation in addition to shift, (in their K7 or K20), which of the 3 axis of rotation they were able to stabilize,I am not sure. The best stabilization system is a three-legged one. I read that Pentax has managed to add stabilization to camera rotation in addition to shift, (in their K7 or K20), which of the 3 axis of rotation they were able to stabilize,I am not sure. The best stabilization system is a three-legged one.

]]> By: Lindsay http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26649 Lindsay Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:00:09 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26649 The EF 100mm f/2.8 L Macro is the first Canon lens to have that "hybrid IS" system. Meanwhile I imagine correcting for roll with optical element(s) would be quite complicated. The EF 100mm f/2.8 L Macro is the first Canon lens to have that “hybrid IS” system.

Meanwhile I imagine correcting for roll with optical element(s) would be quite complicated.

]]> By: Sean http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26647 Sean Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:23:36 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26647 Actually shift is the only thing currently stabilized, as I don't believe any IS lenses have been released yet with angular compensation - unless the new EF-S ones which came out with the 7D are? But you're quite right that the 'roll' aspect is the key in this patent. Actually shift is the only thing currently stabilized, as I don’t believe any IS lenses have been released yet with angular compensation – unless the new EF-S ones which came out with the 7D are? But you’re quite right that the ‘roll’ aspect is the key in this patent.

]]> By: Fred http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/09/canon-patents/comment-page-1/#comment-26645 Fred Fri, 18 Sep 2009 01:09:16 +0000 http://www.canonrumors.com/?p=2644#comment-26645 The last patent deals with image stabilization through rotation of the sensor or lens. It corrects for the only thing currently NOT corrected on IS lenses, the rotation of the body. Current systems correct for 'pitch' and 'yaw' as well as image shift up and down on the newest macro lens. The 'roll' of the camera is what this system seems to address. It's all in the patent, silly. The last patent deals with image stabilization through rotation of the sensor or lens. It corrects for the only thing currently NOT corrected on IS lenses, the rotation of the body. Current systems correct for ‘pitch’ and ‘yaw’ as well as image shift up and down on the newest macro lens. The ‘roll’ of the camera is what this system seems to address. It’s all in the patent, silly.

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