Comments on: 1D Mark IV Unboxed!

By: Derek

Derek — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:30:34 +0000

Did anyone else notice the difference in exposure times. The 5d2 and 7d needed 1/40 or 1/50 where as the 1d4 was shooting the same shot at 1/250 or faster in a lot of them. Amazing to say the least but can onyone offer an explanation?

By: Wang

Wang — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:17:19 +0000

I like to shoot action and bird. Crop camera(7D) help me with my 400 f5.6. The AF points cover bigger area then FF. I do not need to recompose after AF lock. After using 7D, I always keep my 5DII in the bag. 18MP also allow me to crop as f5.6 cannot AF with TC. 600mm is too expensive for me with FF. If I use FF with 12MP, after cropping -> 5MP ?? Why pay so much for 5 MP camera ? How to print A3 ? The noise from 7D is easier to be handle and still remain detail. I really hope to own the 1D4 one day, it should be a lot better the 7D.

By: Ezzat

Ezzat — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:55:15 +0000

Thank you!
With the 1dMk4 shots, did you have highlight tone priority on or off?
Regards

I’m quiet tempted to get the TS-E II, it’s way more versatile and sharp than the 24/1.4LII

By: Pure

Pure — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:51:48 +0000

The 1d mkIV should naturally be better than the 5d mkII. I know this seems counter intuitive, since the 5d mkII is a full frame (FF) sensor, but the 1d mkIV is almost two times more expensive the than 5d mkII.

Just to be clear.

By: mgobbi

mgobbi — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:32:45 +0000

I’m Swiss. In Switzerland I’ve paid 5720 CHF, wich is more or less 5700 USD

By: Hiroki

Hiroki — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:50:01 +0000

If you are 1D3 user, I recommend renew.

- 1st, plus 2 stops ISO performance progress. better than D700/D3 (not D3s of course :p)
- 2nd, same interface and feelings like your APS-H experience
- 3rd, decent LCD. finally…

I should compare 1D4 and D700 because D700′s imager is equal to D3 so this compare isn’t pointless. I feel 1D4 equal D700 or maybe better than that. It means Canon’s anti-noise technology is 2 years behind from Nikon.

Well… 2 years since heavy loss.

We are experiencing hardships after the Canon was defeated in the 3rd war. So it isn’t sarcasm but I feel it is great. Only 2 years after the defeat, Canon tries to rejoin to the frontline.

Perhaps if they make FFnized 1D, I guess we can get more better ISO performance than Nikon. But Canon didn’t. Why? I don’t know:p

Anyway thanks comment and sorry for my english.

By: Hiroki

Hiroki — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:47:12 +0000

Well, long story short I got usable ISO 6400 on EF body so I am very happy.

6400: same as D700 (=D3) or better. finally!
12800: My D700 have fatal banding noise but 1D4 haven’t so better than that too.
H1(25600): Barely usable for monochrome newspaper
H2(51200): for emergency? pretty impossible
H3(102400): gee… Nothing is better than H3.

H3 is cover up for spec sheet, vs D3s obviously. Big company doing child fight but you should know Canon is bigger than Nikon 10 times more. I feel ashamed as a Japanese… Well, technological progress is always welcome.:)

BTW, I can call ISO 12800 is regular ISO. I put these pictures at my flickr so judge them yourself please.

By: Hiroki

Hiroki — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:42:55 +0000

Hi Ezzat san,

> How is the Zeiss performing on the 5D2. Any comments/remarks,
> and do you think it would be a better investment than Canon’s 16-35MM?

I can’t compare them right now, my 16-35/2.8 II copy is crap so I sold already. Perhaps another copy is better than that. My feeling of Zeiss 2,8/21 is better than crap zoom of course :)

17-40/4 < 16-35/2.8 II <<<<<< Zeiss 2,8/21 << 24/1.4 II << TS-E24 II <<<<<< 14-24/2.8

Well, sorry for OT.

By: denz

denz — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:55:25 +0000

+10000000, very well said..
To MM, Compare a 20″x30″ prints of D3s and 1D MK IV. then come back to this site and comment. compare them in a real world uses. video capability on Canon DSLR targets the indi film makers, not photographer.

By: Chargers

Chargers — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:33:32 +0000

It’s not like the mark 4 is the last camera that’s going to come out from Canon. It still has a crop sensor and from the samples I’ve seen. It does fine. Noise is controllable. A lot of photographers are still using the 1dmark3 on the field and I do to. Every camera is made for a certain type of photography category. If it’s doesn’t fit you don’t buy it. Don’t criticize a company. There’s more cameras to come. We all use Dslrs as a tool to improve our photography. I don’t understand how canon hasn’t improved? I see a lot of improvements in their products. Just because one camera is pointed towards low noise at high iso’s doesn’t mean the other that’s compared to it is inferior. All cameras have strong and weak points. The mark four was made for the average professional sports and wild life photographer. It’s a dependable workhorse like my trusty 1d mark 3. Fast and retains alot of detail.

By: QOM

QOM — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 04:57:11 +0000

I don’t understand the need for photographers to do all this trash talking. Canon and Nikon are both great cameras, choose the one you like and take some pictures. If you buy one and don’t like it, then try another one. How many of you out there have driven the same brand car throughout your life, probably not many. It’s ok to say why you like one camera more than another, but unless you’re getting paid by one of the camera companies, why not stop the trash talk.

By: Ezzat

Ezzat — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:07:48 +0000

Thank a lot for these shots. This firmed up my conclusion that the 1dMk4 produces cleaner shots at ISO1600+ than the 5D2.

How is the Zeiss performing on the 5D2. Any comments/remarks, and do you think it would be a better investment than Canon’s 16-35MM?

By: Ezzat

Ezzat — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 03:05:36 +0000

Thank you so much for posting these up.
After careful examination, the 1d mkIV comes ahead of the 5dmk2 in terms of luminance and color noise. This is evident at the ISO 12800 shots.

For some reason the shots I had taken with my 5d2 and 100mm is micro came out cleaner than your ISO800 outdoor shot.

I am looking forward to getting my 1dmk4, hopefully in the next month.
On a side note, I noticed that it retails for 15kMYR in Malaysia, which is just under 4400USD. That’s a bargain, compared to what we are set to pay for in Australia.

How much is the price in Italy?

By: MM has buyers regret?

MM has buyers regret? — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:35:12 +0000

Sounds to me like MM has buyers regret. Seems he’s more trying to convince himself he made the right decision so he’s saying anything he can against Canon.

“…if you want to make videos go out and buy a RED one camera or a real video camera.”

This statement tells me he’s a fanboi trying to defend his Nikon idol.

LOL

If he understood the vast benefits to independent film makers that the 5DII and 1DIV have given them (DOF control alone is worth it) he wouldn’t be making this stupid statement.

The RED one is way too expensive (cheaper to shoot film) for most and real video cameras don’t have film making quality a lot of people need (in independent films).

Just because NIKON have made it an afterthought in their cameras, doesn’t mean every user uses video as a “bonus feature for casual clips”.

Also it seems to MM “IQ” means less color noise. Color noise doesn’t bother me, it’s luminance noise that causes the most problems. Nikon seem worse in this area.

Nikon Cameras are fine, they have their disadvantages as well as advantages. If they work for YOU fine. I don’t need the need for a mass switch to Nikon to “teach Canon a lesson”.

MM is a troll.