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		<title>By: Fireice</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/12/odds-ends-14/comment-page-1/#comment-34901</link>
		<dc:creator>Fireice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m fine with a lower FPS around 6fps for the 60D.

I can live with the 97-98% VF; stripped down video is fine with me as well. 

I hope its priced around $1200. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fine with a lower FPS around 6fps for the 60D.</p>
<p>I can live with the 97-98% VF; stripped down video is fine with me as well. </p>
<p>I hope its priced around $1200. :)</p>
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		<title>By: MacPaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacPaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 11:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These specs are nonsense. Why? Because there&#039;s no real difference to the 50D, and of course a 60D will come. Do some people really think that Canon will stay with this lineup, with such a gap between 500D and 7D?
No, the 60D will most probably be a scaled down 7D, meaning:
- lower fps
- stripped down video
- smaller VF
- no weathersealing (to this extent)
- only one CPU

But AF and other general improvements will remain, so will some of them dripple down to the Rebels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These specs are nonsense. Why? Because there&#8217;s no real difference to the 50D, and of course a 60D will come. Do some people really think that Canon will stay with this lineup, with such a gap between 500D and 7D?<br />
No, the 60D will most probably be a scaled down 7D, meaning:<br />
- lower fps<br />
- stripped down video<br />
- smaller VF<br />
- no weathersealing (to this extent)<br />
- only one CPU</p>
<p>But AF and other general improvements will remain, so will some of them dripple down to the Rebels.</p>
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		<title>By: Piet</title>
		<link>http://www.canonrumors.com/2009/12/odds-ends-14/comment-page-1/#comment-34773</link>
		<dc:creator>Piet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that a 500mm F/5.6 IS would be something that would be possible without being stupidly expensive and heavy.

Additionally a 500mm F/5.6 could (eventually) fit into the price gap between the 400mm F/5.6, 300mm F/4 and 100-400mm and the 300mm F/2.8.

I know a lot of birders would buy one in a flash.

A 600mm F/5.6 will still be fairly heavy and expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that a 500mm F/5.6 IS would be something that would be possible without being stupidly expensive and heavy.</p>
<p>Additionally a 500mm F/5.6 could (eventually) fit into the price gap between the 400mm F/5.6, 300mm F/4 and 100-400mm and the 300mm F/2.8.</p>
<p>I know a lot of birders would buy one in a flash.</p>
<p>A 600mm F/5.6 will still be fairly heavy and expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Fireice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fireice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 06:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a new body with these specs

12mp FF (improved sensor from the 5D1)
9 Point AF all crosstype/center F2.8
6.5fps
Digic 4
720p 24,30,60fps
1080p 24fps
3&quot; 920K Dot LCD
Sub $2000

How I wish. Hehehe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a new body with these specs</p>
<p>12mp FF (improved sensor from the 5D1)<br />
9 Point AF all crosstype/center F2.8<br />
6.5fps<br />
Digic 4<br />
720p 24,30,60fps<br />
1080p 24fps<br />
3&#8243; 920K Dot LCD<br />
Sub $2000</p>
<p>How I wish. Hehehe</p>
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		<title>By: Fandan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fandan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 14:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nigel loves you all, Merry Christmas from Satan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nigel loves you all, Merry Christmas from Satan!</p>
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		<title>By: dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**Good on ya, you know what you want and I hope you will find the camera that you want.**

Thanks. I hope I can....  waiting out the 40D is not torture, but I am ready for an impressive 60D.  I am just a prosumer, so I can&#039;t &#039;set up&#039; shots and they come in lots of varieties.  In door sports events, family get togethers, concerts, etc. Even outdoors, when I put on a circular polarizer, I find my shutter speeds dropping quickly at f9 or f11.  When I travel, I find it a lot more convenient to carry a monopod than a tripod and so if I could pull off a shot at iso 800 or 1600 that looked like 200 or 400, I&#039;d be happier.  

**On the other hand quite a lot of people are not interested in low-light performance and prefer high pixel count.**

I want more megapixels too, but I find that 12 are enough for me at this point since I don&#039;t have L-glass.  I&#039;ll get there one day, but it is hard to justify $8,000 in equipment when you are not making money with it....

**I do not follow your argument how better high ISO performance is supposed to improve focusing.**

It doesn&#039;t. I meant to say these are the attributes of my all-around camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**Good on ya, you know what you want and I hope you will find the camera that you want.**</p>
<p>Thanks. I hope I can&#8230;.  waiting out the 40D is not torture, but I am ready for an impressive 60D.  I am just a prosumer, so I can&#8217;t &#8216;set up&#8217; shots and they come in lots of varieties.  In door sports events, family get togethers, concerts, etc. Even outdoors, when I put on a circular polarizer, I find my shutter speeds dropping quickly at f9 or f11.  When I travel, I find it a lot more convenient to carry a monopod than a tripod and so if I could pull off a shot at iso 800 or 1600 that looked like 200 or 400, I&#8217;d be happier.  </p>
<p>**On the other hand quite a lot of people are not interested in low-light performance and prefer high pixel count.**</p>
<p>I want more megapixels too, but I find that 12 are enough for me at this point since I don&#8217;t have L-glass.  I&#8217;ll get there one day, but it is hard to justify $8,000 in equipment when you are not making money with it&#8230;.</p>
<p>**I do not follow your argument how better high ISO performance is supposed to improve focusing.**</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t. I meant to say these are the attributes of my all-around camera.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, full frame is where this should all be headed.  I stick with what i said earlier, I think 30d and 40d had better overall image quality than 50d.  7d is fine for lots of light, but really all those figures just seem to be for the marketing teams.  Original 5d still beats the pants off 50d and 7d.  It&#039;s like Adobe releasing CS4 while 3 was still completely awful!  

I love Canon, I just hope they start being more proactive instead of reactive in their products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, full frame is where this should all be headed.  I stick with what i said earlier, I think 30d and 40d had better overall image quality than 50d.  7d is fine for lots of light, but really all those figures just seem to be for the marketing teams.  Original 5d still beats the pants off 50d and 7d.  It&#8217;s like Adobe releasing CS4 while 3 was still completely awful!  </p>
<p>I love Canon, I just hope they start being more proactive instead of reactive in their products.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>

YAY! 



It does if you look. Just because you are lazy it is not my failure.

&quot;The G11 sucks!&quot; There&#039;s a good fact quote, hehe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAY! </p>
<p>It does if you look. Just because you are lazy it is not my failure.</p>
<p>&#8220;The G11 sucks!&#8221; There&#8217;s a good fact quote, hehe.</p>
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		<title>By: Michal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obviously anything I write that is not in quotes is my opinion&quot;

Oh good, I shall ignore all your drivel from now on.

&quot;a simple click on my name and you can find me.&quot;

Fail again, that does not link to any personal information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obviously anything I write that is not in quotes is my opinion&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh good, I shall ignore all your drivel from now on.</p>
<p>&#8220;a simple click on my name and you can find me.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fail again, that does not link to any personal information.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 03:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously anything I write that is not in quotes is my opinion...learn english comprehension ability before saying such ridiculous things, Michal.

Of course you ignore all the negative quotes about the G11, hahaha, and it&#039;s funny that you think a camera that provides worse images at normal ISO&#039;s is an improvement...

I&#039;ll write it again for you. The G11 sucks. You lose 4 MP and get less normal ISO image quality from the G10. No HD video. Sucks. Sucks.

And unlike you, I&#039;m not posting anonymously, a simple click on my name and you can find me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously anything I write that is not in quotes is my opinion&#8230;learn english comprehension ability before saying such ridiculous things, Michal.</p>
<p>Of course you ignore all the negative quotes about the G11, hahaha, and it&#8217;s funny that you think a camera that provides worse images at normal ISO&#8217;s is an improvement&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll write it again for you. The G11 sucks. You lose 4 MP and get less normal ISO image quality from the G10. No HD video. Sucks. Sucks.</p>
<p>And unlike you, I&#8217;m not posting anonymously, a simple click on my name and you can find me.</p>
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		<title>By: Michal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and despite all that it&#039;s still the best, or one of the best P&amp;S as the one sentence summaries stated.

&quot;The G11 sucks. Canon should have increased the sensor size to get performance gains across the board, not short change us like they did just to get better high ISO ability.&quot;

Once again David, please stop confusing your own opinions with statements of fact.  You are fully entitled to say &quot;I think that G11 sucks&quot; and I would not take an issue with that (other than to think that you are a pretentious twit) but please do not make sweeping statements like “G11 sucks” for which you have neither credibility or knowledge to make.

Anonymous David from the Internet or Bob Atkins.. Hmm.. whose opinion should I trust more…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and despite all that it&#8217;s still the best, or one of the best P&amp;S as the one sentence summaries stated.</p>
<p>&#8220;The G11 sucks. Canon should have increased the sensor size to get performance gains across the board, not short change us like they did just to get better high ISO ability.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once again David, please stop confusing your own opinions with statements of fact.  You are fully entitled to say &#8220;I think that G11 sucks&#8221; and I would not take an issue with that (other than to think that you are a pretentious twit) but please do not make sweeping statements like “G11 sucks” for which you have neither credibility or knowledge to make.</p>
<p>Anonymous David from the Internet or Bob Atkins.. Hmm.. whose opinion should I trust more…</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The G11 gives you better high ISO ability for it&#039;s drop in MP, but the G10 delivers better images at low ISO&#039;s (according to the DPreview review). 

Quotes about the G11 you didn&#039;t provide tell a different story:

&quot;High ISO images lose saturation and detail (and offer no control over noise reduction).&quot; 

It has a &quot;rather slow lens...by traditional G series standards&quot;.

&quot;Focus prone to hunting (and focus failure) in low light at longer focal lengths&quot;

&quot;Rather over-sharp JPEGS&quot;

&quot;if you&#039;re tempted to buy the G11 for its image quality, flexibility of lens range or high level of manual control on a compact camera, you may find a camera that outdoes it&quot;

&quot;it&#039;s clearly no match for the truly large-sensor cameras such as the Panasonic GF1 and Olympus E-P1&quot;

&quot;There are more readily pocketable cameras out there that offer similar image quality and, once you&#039;re resigned to wearing it around your neck, there are not much larger cameras that will trump it for image quality (though they are more expensive).&quot;

&quot;Overall, the G11 does perfectly well for a 10MP camera but of course it can&#039;t match the 14.7MP G10 at the thing it does best - low ISO resolution.&quot;

All quotes from the dpreview.com 21 page review.

I don&#039;t know about you, but I don&#039;t want an increase in high ISO ability if it means less performance and quality  at low ISO. This is why I said the G11 is one step forward and two steps back. Bottom line, the G10 is better unless you limit the discussion to high ISO shooting. 

The G11 sucks. Canon should have increased the sensor size to get performance gains across the board, not short change us like they did just to get better high ISO ability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The G11 gives you better high ISO ability for it&#8217;s drop in MP, but the G10 delivers better images at low ISO&#8217;s (according to the DPreview review). </p>
<p>Quotes about the G11 you didn&#8217;t provide tell a different story:</p>
<p>&#8220;High ISO images lose saturation and detail (and offer no control over noise reduction).&#8221; </p>
<p>It has a &#8220;rather slow lens&#8230;by traditional G series standards&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Focus prone to hunting (and focus failure) in low light at longer focal lengths&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Rather over-sharp JPEGS&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;if you&#8217;re tempted to buy the G11 for its image quality, flexibility of lens range or high level of manual control on a compact camera, you may find a camera that outdoes it&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;it&#8217;s clearly no match for the truly large-sensor cameras such as the Panasonic GF1 and Olympus E-P1&#8243;</p>
<p>&#8220;There are more readily pocketable cameras out there that offer similar image quality and, once you&#8217;re resigned to wearing it around your neck, there are not much larger cameras that will trump it for image quality (though they are more expensive).&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Overall, the G11 does perfectly well for a 10MP camera but of course it can&#8217;t match the 14.7MP G10 at the thing it does best &#8211; low ISO resolution.&#8221;</p>
<p>All quotes from the dpreview.com 21 page review.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but I don&#8217;t want an increase in high ISO ability if it means less performance and quality  at low ISO. This is why I said the G11 is one step forward and two steps back. Bottom line, the G10 is better unless you limit the discussion to high ISO shooting. </p>
<p>The G11 sucks. Canon should have increased the sensor size to get performance gains across the board, not short change us like they did just to get better high ISO ability.</p>
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		<title>By: J-Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>J-Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60D 70D 80D 90D = boring.
if I want another crop camera I&#039;ll get a 7D.

Bring on the 3D 12-18Mp FF with silky smooth
low iso, noise free 1600 iso, 5fps, 7D AF, 1D3 weather proofing,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60D 70D 80D 90D = boring.<br />
if I want another crop camera I&#8217;ll get a 7D.</p>
<p>Bring on the 3D 12-18Mp FF with silky smooth<br />
low iso, noise free 1600 iso, 5fps, 7D AF, 1D3 weather proofing,</p>
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		<title>By: JCL</title>
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		<dc:creator>JCL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 01:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^This</description>
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