Comments on: More Firmware Information [CR2]

By: Ryan Hant

Ryan Hant — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:01:35 +0000

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By: Greg Greenhaw

Greg Greenhaw — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:30:34 +0000

We need to make a clear big push for this feature to end up on the 5d mark II asap.
Has anyone started a petition. I think this is the next big feature needed.

By: Mike V

Mike V — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:00:28 +0000

I might be wrong on this.

I think it can do it.

By: Mike V

Mike V — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:37:15 +0000

But I think it’s only 4:4:4 Component and not 4:4:4 RGB which is more bandwidth than Component.

I’m not an expert on this, but I know that the F35, F23, SRW-9000 and Genesis all record component in 4:2:2 mode but RGB in 4:4:4 mode.

So I’m not sure how useful 4:4:4 Component is.

By: Jay

Jay — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:43:35 +0000

Have you seen phillip bloom’s work that was displayed on a 40 foot screen at skywalker ranch for george lucas and tarentino? There was also a feature at the toronto film festival shot all 5d… I’ve shot with alot of different cameras and seen them played back in small theaters, this camera works fine when used properly.

By: 5D Mark II TEAM

5D Mark II TEAM — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:29:05 +0000

We’ll take your word on this one.

By: 5D Mark II TEAM

5D Mark II TEAM — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:24:43 +0000

“not a clue” is right (in part).

We did, although not in this way the post is telling -and we don’t have dogs at this time, but we’ll consider that :)

What we mentioned is that Canon was very interested on some kind of RAW or uncompressed video output, somehow to compete with RED. The output would be recorded by an external new device (expensive)

We’ve been told about that in mid 2009. So it’s not really new.

The point is Canon never released any official firmware regarding this possibility, neither made a comment (of course, don’t ever expect such kind of things, they speak less than Mr. Bean…)

We wrote that months ago, more than once. You are not reading carefully!!! ;)

By: 5D Mark II TEAM

5D Mark II TEAM — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 03:14:57 +0000

In fact few guys already got the firmware 2.0.3 by the way we mentioned :)

You can laugh, but they smile having their camera updated.

By: Tagger

Tagger — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:55:06 +0000

i’m happy that there are a lot of people that don’t think like you…

I work in postproduction and we put a lot of effort in providing the best possible quality. visualisation is an important part of storytelling, and i can tell you for a fact that if you have a lot of aliasing on a cinemascreen, people will get distracted from the “story”. if you don’t do good, consistant colourgrading, editing,… people will get distracted from the “story”. The reason why 99% of the people don’t complain is because they have nothing to compare it to, they see the movie presented to them as the “best you could get with the given tools” while i can easely show the same story to people done mediocre and the exact same story done good and they will hate the one and love the other, sometimes “just decent image quality” doesnt cut it. good image quality has to do with a lot more then camera technology, i’ve seen great stuff beeing shot with an old DV cameras “10 years ago”.

I agree with shawns statements, including the one about the “fan” statement … fanism is stupid. There are times where the 5D comes in handy, there are times where you need to go for a Red, there are times where you need to use a geneses or arri and there are even times where you will shoot with your cellphone.. all depends on what you do, they ALL have their limitions and benefits.

and please, don’t limit yourself by the idea that 10 years ago this was a “dream” for you, try to dream today about what you want in 10 years in stead and force canon to inovate their hardware as much as possible.

By: Gio

Gio — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:54:11 +0000

I agree, but remember 10 years ago was just a dream to have a camera with the capabilities, HD, DOF, low light performance, etc.
Now we have it, just for a fraction of the real cost (past). I would suggest you that deal with the limitations and worry more about the content of your features. I haven’t yet recall a single time going to a movie, and criticise it because of aliasing or moire, IMO 99% of the people would love a beautiful story with just decent Image Quality.

By: Shawn

Shawn — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:50:16 +0000

I agree with the last reply. I am not a “Red Fan,” nor a “Canon Fan” or a “Nikon Fan” for that matter.

The 5D is a great stills camera that can be a great cinema camera “some of the time.”

And I intend to use it to shoot a feature in about 3 months. But the headache of “managing” what is shot to avoid aliasing = Compromise.

And when I get into post, having a compressed 8 bit image will limit my color options in a major way.

It’s still the smallest / cheapest alternative to Film or RED. But it ain’t like giving us RAW will fix the major problems with this camera. It will help mostly with quality of image and post for color work. Not aliasing or jello-cam.

By: lolicht

lolicht — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:07:32 +0000

The situation is very strange … It’s like Canon and us, customers are playing a game where everybody pretend to be pioneers of the digital cinema. So we have super lenses, impressive camera bodies, shiny gizmos (Zacuto’s and others) and now perhaps raw recording capabilities, a whole bunch of expensive toys, like the mecano I played with when I was a kid … But there is something wrong, the reason to use all that should be the search of superb shots for storytelling … those shots are not there because of the trick Canon had to implement to be able to sell a photographic camera to wannabe moviemakers : the line skipping. The key feature is just missing : delivering decent quality pictures …
This morning I had to film kids playing in a sandbox and I had to compose my shots to avoid the moiré caused by the sand, the aliasing caused by the old mansion in the background. At the end, instead of having the kids in situation, in one of the nicest place of Paris, I have some very nice close-shots of kids faces with everything else blurred out, no usable wide shots … It’s like attempting to write a novel with a pen that can only write 10 letters from the alphabet …
So this raw thing is just a part of this joke that may end when everyone will consider that they want something more versatile than a bokeh-camera to tell stories … can not film everything as if it were pack shots …

By: Gio

Gio — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:05:31 +0000

I still love the image quality that this camera is giving, your numbers won’t change anything. IMO Canon is still the king of DSLRs. Or not…

By: MnkyPwz

MnkyPwz — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:43:06 +0000

So let me guess, you’re a RED fan right?