We have confirmed that Canon will be announcing a new Cinema EOS camera ahead of NAB in April.
The new camera will follow the same form factor as the recently released Canon Cinema EOS C500 Mark II and will have a user interchangeable EF and PL mount.
This is likely going to be the follow-up to the Canon Cinema EOS C300 Mark II and not the coming 8K Canon Cinema EOS camera, though I wouldn't be shocked to finally see a development announcement for the 8K camera.
We hope to nail down the specifications for the new camera shortly.
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- Full frame
- 4k raw and all the 4k 10-bit in full frame
- RF Mount
- add in 120fps in 4k
Compete directly with the FX9, but with raw and 120fps and of course better Canon image. $10 - $12k
and make it 15-20% smaller and lighter.
Then again, I'm kinda thinking Canon may just scrap it and give is the long awaited a7s competitor in its place (sort of).
Yes, I understand this argument, but I know lots and lots of people who shoot with C200 and C300 II, as well as Sony FS5 and FS7, and very few of them shoot with cinema lenses with true, hard stops manual focus lenses. And the new FBW lenses are WAAYYY better than they were a few years ago.
Also, with the new linear focusing choice on most mirrorless cameras, it's a non-issue. I focus all of the time with mirrorless FBW lenses and never care their isn't a distance scale.
The RF-Mount is important because all of their full-frame RF zooms have stabilization, which is HUGE for doc, journalist, tv, and small production company crews - plus the RF mount easily adapts everything else out there.
Probably will be EF mount, so maybe something on the lower end of the cinema lineup (C100 III or C200 II) will be the first to get it.
Even if it’s an aps-c sensor to keep cost down I could use the sigma Art Zooms with an EF adapter. I want an FS-5 killer more than an FX-9.
Totally agree. Maybe the Red Komodo is that instead.
But C100 III (same size or smaller) that is more modular, has XLRs on the body, internal NDs, with (the now required for any new cinema camera) 10-bit 4k up to 60fps, with an RF Mount would be an instant buy for me.
What is wrong with the EF mount? Also you can use PL mount lenses on Canon cameras natively. Also you forget that Canon has a large line-up of EF Cinema lenses that are incredible.
Sony is very limited with just E lenses which are limited in range and options where EF lenses have a huge variety and add PL lenses it is mind boggling what options are available to you.
As I mentioned above, for a full-frame doc cinema camera, you could put a 24-70mm f2.8 lens on it and be good 95% of the time. But you also want lens stabilization. The EF version doesn't have it. The 16-35mm f2.8 doesn't either. Whereas the RF Mount versions do. The Sigma EF does, but that stabilization is pretty awful. And that lens is huge.
Yea - that's true. If Canon came out with a full-frame C300 III as a 4k only camera but offered all the specs you would think it would have (internal raw up to 60fps + 10-bit codecs), that could really hurt the C500 II, since the 5.9k on that camera would only be used in productions that can deal with and afford the file sizes.
But, if it doesn't have internal raw or is not full-frame, how is it above the C200, which has internal raw 4k up to 60fps?
I wouldn't be surprised (but I would be disappointed), if it was sort of a combo of the C300 II and C200 - a Super35 4K-only camera with internal raw up to 60fps + all of the 10-bit codecs that the C200 was missing. So, basically a C200 with a firmware update. Hopefully not, but that's what I'm guessing.
That's why I think they should make it RF Mount, full-frame, 4k-only, internal raw, 60fps, all 10-bit codecs. Want an EF mount or 5.9k raw? C500 II. Don't need 5.9k raw or want the newer, more powerful RF mount? C300 III.
Red has real problems. They get completely owned on the top end by ARRI and they are fighting off both Canon and Black Magic on the bottom end. When you ask why Red it is pretty hard to come up with an answer. For the first year ever I am looking forward to NAB more than any of the camera shows.
I doubt PL Pro lenses have it nor do the Canon cine lenses either.
Apparently those hyper expensive lenses do phenomenal work some how.