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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS Available January 7, 2013
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2013, 05:57:41 PM »
Comparing MSRP to MSRP, the new lens is 30% more expensive than the 24-105.
Comparing current street prices, it is 100% more expensive ($1500 compared to $750).

What about comparing initial MSRP when lenses were first launched? You may even find the initial offer prices of the 24-105 HIGHER than that of 24-70 f/4 now.
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS Available January 7, 2013
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS Available January 7, 2013
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2013, 05:59:40 PM »
there are a few german sites who have tested the lens... for example:

http://www.traumflieger.de/reports/Videos/Traumflieger-DSLR-Woche/das-neue-Canon-24-70mm-4-0-im-Test-Teil-1-DSLR-Wo-14-1::386.html

If it's as bad as Traumflieger says, I'll be quite happy to purchase the 24-105 kit. Saves me quite a bit of money too.  ;D

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2013, 06:00:54 PM »
Canon strategy is for jokes.
I do believe Canon died after the 5D2.
I chose Canon then, i wouldn't choose Canon now.

I don't know what Canon is thinking but there is no reason to buy an overpriced lens with shorter tele end than 24-105
no reason at all!
lighter? smaller? how much is it? tiny? i don't think so.
They should make an 24-70 2.8 IS or an 24-105 f/4 IS II

The huge problem with canon users is that they don't demand! they compromise and that sucks. I can't take Canon seriously when third party solutions like magic latern unlocks a ton of features that Canon could blend in with a firmware upgrade, while nikon does that in the first place.

I can't take it seriously when i see no drastic development in sensors.
Did canon ever fixed her dynamic range or the noise in lower ISO levels and banding issues as well? NOPE

I'd like to have a FF camera, i was about to buy 5D3 or 6D but i see both of those cameras aren't worthy of their prices, while D600 is a steal!
24-70 2.8 II is a big disappointment (no IS and over expensive)
24-70 f4 IS too (too expensive and since 24-105 exists and it is a GREAT lens for all around use, no reason to buy this 24-70 f4 is)

So i'll stick with my old rebel 600D which is best value of money, plus the magic latern which makes this toy camera, a real camera, and when i feel the need to change equipment, i'll sell everything and move to nikon unless canon starts thinking of making products instead of toys.
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2013, 06:06:41 PM »
The huge problem with canon users is that they don't demand!

They don't? Ha, ha...

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2013, 06:11:40 PM »
So i'll stick with my old rebel 600D which is best value of money, plus the magic latern which makes this toy camera, a real camera, and when i feel the need to change equipment, i'll sell everything and move to nikon unless canon starts thinking of making products instead of toys.

OK. See ya.

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2013, 06:53:21 PM »
Canon strategy is for jokes.
I do believe Canon died after the 5D2.
I chose Canon then, i wouldn't choose Canon now.

I don't know what Canon is thinking but there is no reason to buy an overpriced lens with shorter tele end than 24-105
no reason at all!
lighter? smaller? how much is it? tiny? i don't think so.
They should make an 24-70 2.8 IS or an 24-105 f/4 IS II

The huge problem with canon users is that they don't demand! they compromise and that sucks. I can't take Canon seriously when third party solutions like magic latern unlocks a ton of features that Canon could blend in with a firmware upgrade, while nikon does that in the first place.

I can't take it seriously when i see no drastic development in sensors.
Did canon ever fixed her dynamic range or the noise in lower ISO levels and banding issues as well? NOPE

I'd like to have a FF camera, i was about to buy 5D3 or 6D but i see both of those cameras aren't worthy of their prices, while D600 is a steal!
24-70 2.8 II is a big disappointment (no IS and over expensive)
24-70 f4 IS too (too expensive and since 24-105 exists and it is a GREAT lens for all around use, no reason to buy this 24-70 f4 is)

So i'll stick with my old rebel 600D which is best value of money, plus the magic latern which makes this toy camera, a real camera, and when i feel the need to change equipment, i'll sell everything and move to nikon unless canon starts thinking of making products instead of toys.

Funny...I do not see that ::) I would say a MUST have lens in the bag, just like 70-200 f2.8 IS II for FF.

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS Available January 7, 2013
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2013, 06:54:38 PM »
Comparing MSRP to MSRP, the new lens is 30% more expensive than the 24-105.
Comparing current street prices, it is 100% more expensive ($1500 compared to $750).

What about comparing initial MSRP when lenses were first launched? You may even find the initial offer prices of the 24-105 HIGHER than that of 24-70 f/4 now.

What matters is, if I'm looking to buy a f/4 standard zoom TODAY, I'm looking at either the $1500 24-70 f/4, or the $750 24-105 f/4.

I suspect Canon is intending to discontinue the 24-105 very soon, leaving Canon users with the 24-70 f/4 as the only choice for Canon f/4 L standard zooms.

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2013, 06:57:20 PM »
Canon strategy is for jokes.
I do believe Canon died after the 5D2.
I chose Canon then, i wouldn't choose Canon now.

I don't know what Canon is thinking but there is no reason to buy an overpriced lens with shorter tele end than 24-105
no reason at all!
lighter? smaller? how much is it? tiny? i don't think so.
They should make an 24-70 2.8 IS or an 24-105 f/4 IS II

The huge problem with canon users is that they don't demand! they compromise and that sucks. I can't take Canon seriously when third party solutions like magic latern unlocks a ton of features that Canon could blend in with a firmware upgrade, while nikon does that in the first place.

I can't take it seriously when i see no drastic development in sensors.
Did canon ever fixed her dynamic range or the noise in lower ISO levels and banding issues as well? NOPE

I'd like to have a FF camera, i was about to buy 5D3 or 6D but i see both of those cameras aren't worthy of their prices, while D600 is a steal!
24-70 2.8 II is a big disappointment (no IS and over expensive)
24-70 f4 IS too (too expensive and since 24-105 exists and it is a GREAT lens for all around use, no reason to buy this 24-70 f4 is)

So i'll stick with my old rebel 600D which is best value of money, plus the magic latern which makes this toy camera, a real camera, and when i feel the need to change equipment, i'll sell everything and move to nikon unless canon starts thinking of making products instead of toys.

Funny...I do not see that ::) I would say a MUST have lens in the bag, just like 70-200 f2.8 IS II for FF.

Until the 24-70 f/2.8 IS shows up, that is. And don't even think about paying less than $3000 for it.

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2013, 10:43:40 PM »
A slow, mid range range zoom for $1500 dollars..... let me think...
um.... NO!

I get that this lens will be about 1100 dollars in a year or so, but these initial MSRP's really tick me off. I like to dream about getting newly released products, and am always tempted to be a first adopter. However, when I do dream about getting these shiny new toys, I don't like that dream to end with a steel toe boot kicking me in the balls after looking at the MSRP. All too often recently, Canon has been thrilled to do this to us(5DIII,24-70 2.8II, 35mm 2.0, this lens.)

This is a nice looking lens, mainly because of the size and the macro bonus, but for me, the sweet spot on price is about $800 bucks. F4 for me equals cheap, and this lens ain't that.
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2013, 10:47:10 PM »
...IF u don't like Canon strategy or product's there is an alternative solutions & it is good as Canon just no need to stick with it & complain how bad they are.
I can complain all I want... and I will give my opinion, and my opinion of your opinion.  And I will stick with Canon and the products that make sense and are relatively well priced.  This is not it, and I will, as I see fit, complain about it wherever I want!

If you don't want to read my complaints, don't read them, but don't tell me not to complain.
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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2013, 10:49:48 PM »
A slow, mid range range zoom for $1500 dollars...  for me, the sweet spot on price is about $800 bucks. F4 for me equals cheap, and this lens ain't that.
Exactly my thoughts.

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2013, 11:03:45 PM »
I enjoy using Canon products (never tried Nikon) but am not a 'fan boy'.

I have enough respect and faith in Canon to believe that this lens will have distinct optical advantages over the 24-105. Why else would they make this?

Lets see how the reviews come out. Brian...

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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2013, 11:40:43 PM »
I'd like to have a FF camera, i was about to buy 5D3 or 6D but i see both of those cameras aren't worthy of their prices, while D600 is a steal!
24-70 2.8 II is a big disappointment (no IS and over expensive)
24-70 f4 IS too (too expensive and since 24-105 exists and it is a GREAT lens for all around use, no reason to buy this 24-70 f4 is)
The new 24-70/2.8 II is a great lens, worth the price.  The new 24-70/4 IS is a high quality small zoom with macro.  It will be even better than the 24-105/4 IS.  The 5D3 is fantastic and the price has come down.   But why wait to switch if Canon "died" and Nikon is so much better & cheaper?  I don't understand the hesitation.

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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2013, 12:08:53 AM »
those who say canon L glass holds value better... I dont think that is true for new lenses.

when 24-70 II was launched, it was going for around 19K HKD (here in hong kong)
Now, it is around 16K HKD
Difference is around 390 USD

Difference between launched price and current price of tamron 24-70 is less than 1000 HKD (one third)

Someone who bought new tamron and is not happy and want to switch to canon version now or few months down the road... is better off compared to those who bought new canon after launch.

I wonder how much this one will drop in price and how soon...


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Re: EF 24-70 f/4L IS in Stock at B&H Photo
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2013, 12:13:55 AM »
Yeah I don't see a reason to swap out my 24-105...at all.


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