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EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« on: March 28, 2013, 07:04:54 AM »
A new spec list
A test camera that could be the EOS 7D Mark II has been specced at Northlight.

Specifications

  • 21MP APS C
  • ISO 100-25600 (L: 50, H1 51200, H2 102400)
  • 10fps
  • Video ‘stills burst’ mode 30/60 fps
  • Full HD video with manual control
  • Single CF Card Slot
  • 19 AF Points all Cross
  • On chip phase detect pixels for liveview and AF tracking
  • 100% Viewfinder
  • Viewfinder LCD Higher Resolution Than 7D
  • 3.2″ LCD
  • GPS, WiFi
  • Alloy body with better weather sealing over 7D

If the 19 AF points are true, I imagine it’s an all new AF system. Previously we’ve been told the AF system in the next camera would be based around the current 61 point AF system of the EOS-1D X and EOS 5D Mark III.

Source: [NL]

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EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« on: March 28, 2013, 07:04:54 AM »

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2013, 07:12:14 AM »
If these specs are really what the 7D2 will be then I see no point of waiting so long for this.
Might as well buy a 7D or just go FF.

1 CF card surprised me and the 19 AF points, sounds like the current 7D with "slight" improvements...

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If this is a 70D then I can accept these specs...
It is a CR1 so nothing is certain. Canon aren't too quick on these new releases  ::)
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2013, 07:14:19 AM »
A test camera means how many months before hitting retail shelves? 5 maybe?

Could those specs warrant a higher or same price tag as the 6D?


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Those slight improvements were just around what I've expected, ya know just throw in Wifi and GPS, but there's a jump on the ISO.

As per CR if its a new AF system then maybe its from a new sensor coz why won't they put Digic 6 on it? but that remains to be seen.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2013, 07:22:50 AM »
the biggest interrogations seem to be on the AF sytem and the sensor, new ones or not ::)

With these specs i guess we can expect an under 2000 $/€ body...

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2013, 07:34:11 AM »
"Gamechanger"? My 2 cents... (note that one beta-tester here reported there are several different test bodies in the wild):

* 21mp? Yes, that certainly sounds like Canon, they'll want to keep the specs & price above the "entry-level" 20mp 6d but below the 22mp 5d3 ... big question of course if this is the famed "next gen" high-dr low-noise sensor.

* AF tracking in live view? Come on, that has to be a joke - unless this a completely other design the af pixels on the sensor only tell the camera which way to contrast af.

* GPS/WiFi - so we can expect the camera to miss the external flash (that's where the antennas are) and you have to buy a €300 or €500 (with af assist) piece of equipment just to control off-camera flash just like the 6d? That's probably also the reason why there still is no built-in rt controller even in these 7d2 specs... thanks. Canon.

* Video ‘stills burst’ mode 30/60 fps: Interesting, the buffer on the lv digic5-6d/5d3 is also larger than digic4 - so even these cameras might be able to do quick/large lv "silent pictures" with Magic Lantern when it's out of alpha.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2013, 07:39:44 AM »
This does sound as the 70D to me... then I would be happy.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2013, 07:42:57 AM »
21MP APS-C? The 5D3 at ISO 102K is pretty noisy. I can just imagine what this will be like at that ISO.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2013, 07:42:57 AM »

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2013, 07:45:22 AM »
This does sound as the 70D to me... then I would be happy.

I agree, these would be pretty disappointing specifications for a 7D MkII, even if the new sensor was superb.  It would make more sense if this was a 70D prototype, allowing the 7D MkII to raise the bar. 

This said, it is possible that Canon and Nikon are "collaborating" to deny users a high performance APS-C body, thus forcing them to switch to full frame... Rumours and conspiricy theories go hand in hand!  ;)

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2013, 07:51:12 AM »
This does sound as the 70D to me...

I'm not one to complain about rumors or generally even join rumor discussions, but I agree with this wholeheartedly.  This is about what I would expect from the 70D, not the 7D2.  I would venture a guess that if this is the prototype that makes it to market, LOTS of faithful 7D owners will be very upset if they were looking to upgrade and those who aren't looking to upgrade will be VERY happy.  IMO, that's not exactly how you want your current user-base to feel.  You want the current users who are looking to upgrade to be excited and those forced to stay where they're at to feel envious.

Again, it's just a rumor (a CR1 at that) so we can't put a whole lot of stock in it but I would not be surprised at all if this was in fact one of the many prototypes floating around.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2013, 08:00:21 AM »
I was disappointed with the specs on the 6D when it was introduced as I was really considering a move (not a switch) to FF but wanted something less expensive than a 5DIII.  Underwhelmed, I skipped the 6D.  I would purchase an updated 7D if the specs were great but these are, once again, underwhelming.  Looks like my best move is to save my pennies from my pension and move to the 5DIII though it isn't really perfect for my uses.  Or I could stay with my current stable and add some more L glass.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2013, 08:03:01 AM »
the biggest interrogations seem to be on the AF sytem and the sensor, new ones or not ::)

With these specs i guess we can expect an under 2000 $/€ body...

Was just merely intrigued by the fact that Canon's been talking about Digic 6 and if they'll be able to use it on 7D2, but Dual Digic 5+ is highly likely.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2013, 08:03:32 AM »
If DR improvement is not mentioned it won't happen, so we shouldn't expect it or speculate about it. Same sensor as the 650D but smaller (more noisy) pixels, faster readout, better AF and Body. I'd call this camera a 6.5D.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2013, 08:05:23 AM »
Quote
Video ‘stills burst’ mode 30/60 fps
I'm not sure what this means...are they suggesting that it will capture 30 fps in the full 21 MP RAW mode?

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2013, 08:10:24 AM »
I do like the 21mp number better than 24 for APS-C... I personally have no problem with 18, but I'd be OK with 21. I'd certainly take 21+less noise over 24+more... I'm not trying to print 48" wide.

AF and most of those features sound to me like a 70D. And I think releasing this camera as the 70D would set up good things for a 7d2 to come later. In fact, depending on prices, I might consider this over a 7d2, which I'm sure would be a dream to use, but might be more camera than I actually need.

The spec that gives me pause is the 10fps. Now, if they can make the 7d2 do 12 (or, dare I suggest, 14), then 10 makes sense for a 70d. But then the 7d2 is encroaching on 1dx territory. It would make a lot more sense to me as a potential 70d if it had 7-8 fps, leaving double-digit fps for the professional cameras.

That said, if this is the 7d2, I wouldn't swear off it- I'd just wait till the prices came down to what I paid for my 7d, and pick one up then!
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2013, 08:14:24 AM »
Well, I wonder how ISO 51k RAW will look like in APS-C. Or even at 102k. If sometimes my 5D3 gets to its limits @ 25k and 51k. Might a thouroughly new sensor tech make that possible...? :-\ With these specs a next update of a 5D could see native ISOs 100-51200 (L 50, H1 102400, 204800) and an 1Dx (H1 204800, H2 409600) !!!

But, let's keep in mind what NL also added:
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
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