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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2013, 10:47:51 AM »
Any chance this could be a sign that they plan to transform the M-line into a full-frame system for the US market (with a new name) while maintaining APS-C sized mirrorless compacts for the Eastern markets (where they are better received)?  I would hope that they are holding back on releasing crop-sensor lenses in the US because they intend to deliver full-frame equivalents instead.

I kind of doubt this.  The point of mirrorless is smaller lighter cheaper and easy to use.  A Full Frame mirrorless would require Canon to develop a 4th EF mount and a whole new set of lenses.   

Canon just released a camera that was totally incapable of competing with its rivals.  Unfortunately by the time they fixed their defect/ problem they apparently already decided to drop the system.  Dumb move but what can we do but return our new EOS-M's in protest...

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2013, 10:47:51 AM »

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2013, 10:58:17 AM »
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I'm curious as to how a "technical support representative" is making marketing announcements for Canon USA.

If the credibility factor were higher, it might suggest the recent sale was a big inventory dump in anticipation of some substantial change -- e.g. abandoning this line.

This might also suggest contention between Canon Japan and Canon USA. Marketing people at Canon USA may have resisted this whole project from the start. They never seemed to put much effort into marketing it here. Now they may be telling Japan there aren't enough sold units in the market to support what they probably view as a specialty lens typically used by enthusiasts -- people who are more than casuals or tourists, etc. I'd guess they see the U.S. market as mostly people who buy the 22mm and nothing else. A few will buy the camera with the available zoom, but I'd guess there are few lens-only sales. This might also explain the pullback on the EF adapter.

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2013, 10:59:15 AM »
If they are indeed dropping the line after just this model I think it is a dumb move. I was interested in this before the release and after seeing reviews of the horrible AF I decided against it. With the new firmware and the sale I bought two one with each lens and plan to convert one of the bodies for astro. If this camera was solid from release I might be able to understand.

At this point though we have no real information either way on whether they are going to dump it or simply not sell that particular lens in the US.

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2013, 10:59:42 AM »
Oh come on Canon! I was hesitant to buy the M at first, even at $299. I've been playing with it non-stop since I got it. This is actually a really good mirrorless body and deserves more credit then it got from the press. I thoroughly enjoyed shooting street with it the night I got it and will be doing a lot more of that. I've been playing with adapters and old glass. I love it.

I'm not that interested in the 18-55. I am interested in the 11-22. I am VERY interested in more fast primes like the 22 f/2. I would buy 24mm, 50mm, and 85mm equivalents tomorrow.

I wish Canon would pay me to get their mirrorless strategy on course. Between firmware 3 (focus peaking / short MF throw / touch to AF / AF on record button), new lenses, and new bodies, I would have them on course to backhanding Sony and m4/3 within 2 years.

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2013, 11:25:03 AM »
CR Guy:

North America is not the same as USA. You put NA in the title and then talked about USA in the body  :o

Canon Canada is selling this lens. It is on their website, and both Henry's and Vistek have it listed for pre-order. Between the Canadian retailers shipping to US, and eBay, I don't see how it'll be a problem for anyone wanting to buy this lens or any future M products.


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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2013, 11:28:42 AM »
All interesting.

So, now that I am the proud owner of an "M" they might be abandoning this line?  I am glad I have the 22.  I don't think I'll invest in the 18-55 but rather get a generic adapter and use lenses that I already own. 

What this achieves is a self-fulfilling prophecy.  Sales of the M line and accessories will plummet because they are not seemingly supporting this in the USA.  Then, the sales and marketing folks will justify the lack of support due to low sales.

Anyone at Canon looking at these threads?
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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2013, 11:29:40 AM »
weird!  ???
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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2013, 11:39:01 AM »
Between the Canadian retailers shipping to US, and eBay, I don't see how it'll be a problem for anyone wanting to buy this lens...

As I stated...you can buy it easily enough, but what if it breaks?
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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2013, 11:45:08 AM »
Between the Canadian retailers shipping to US, and eBay, I don't see how it'll be a problem for anyone wanting to buy this lens...

As I stated...you can buy it easily enough, but what if it breaks?

Good thing it's a two hour drive for me to Canada, I guess.  :P

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2013, 11:49:09 AM »
That's nuts! If I'm not wrong USA is probably the single largest customer base for Canon and not selling a UWA lens for their one and only Mirrorless Camera in USA just does not make sense ... CR, are you sure you can trust your source for this info?
But if it is true, at least some of you North American's can feel what we go through here everyday ... many of the lenses/cameras/accessories sold in North America can never be bought here locally unless we do online shopping and get it shipped ... if anything goes wrong, we have to pay shipping costs two more times to send it for repairs and get it back. I know it sucks :(
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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2013, 11:50:40 AM »
A highly compact, lightweight, ultra-wide angle lens WITH image stabilization for under $400? Who would want such a thing? Madness!

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2013, 11:57:22 AM »
Between the Canadian retailers shipping to US, and eBay, I don't see how it'll be a problem for anyone wanting to buy this lens...

As I stated...you can buy it easily enough, but what if it breaks?

Don't stores like Adorama offer store warranties on gray market gear?

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2013, 11:58:14 AM »
quote Canon Rumors:

 If it’s not coming to Canon USA, I can’t see it coming to Canada either.



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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2013, 12:16:34 PM »
I think it's like this:

-- Canon will announce a new M camera with dual pixel AF.

-- At the same time the 11-22 will get its North American release announcement.



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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2013, 12:40:58 PM »
Notice they say "due to current market conditions". This can mean a lot of things, but to a large company like Canon just having an item out for support and sales means it costs money - a lot of it. The service centers have to be trained and keep parts inventory - just for starters. This costs $$.

My guess is they see NA sales low enough that it's not worth supporting, they mostly just sold them to the Photo sites and rental places. Perhaps this is why they dumped stocks in NA.

Now with the however many new EOS-M's running in the wild in NA it might be a different story - in a year! Big companies run slowly.

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Re: EF-M 11-22 f/4-5.6 IS STM Not Coming to North America?
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