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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2013, 06:18:43 PM »
But I think the public is growing tired of Canon...

Would that supposition be based on your extensive market analysis, or on Canon's superior sales numbers, or on your belief that you are the public?

It sounds like argumentum ex culo.

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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2013, 06:18:43 PM »

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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2013, 06:21:02 PM »
Canon has to announce something really nice...... I'm bored of their silence....  :-\
Yes we really should have 4-5 totally major announcements per week.  ;)
Sure has been a slow news week with the inevitable incendiary withdrawal symptoms from the upgrade addicts.

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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2013, 06:50:01 PM »
Canon has to announce something really nice...... I'm bored of their silence....  :-\
Yes we really should have 4-5 totally major announcements per week.  ;)
Sure has been a slow news week with the inevitable incendiary withdrawal symptoms from the upgrade addicts.

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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2013, 07:42:15 PM »
How about a candidate for the least likely to be announced: a 16-35 f/2.8 IS L iii

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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2013, 08:05:05 PM »
I think coming of the back of their successful launch of the customized S120 and G16 http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/10/limited-edition-powershot-cameras-coming/, the announcement in November is bound to be an extension to this with a wood-grain finished 5D MkIII into which you can have your monogrammed initials hand carved.
It's what you have been waiting for from Canon.

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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2013, 09:28:55 PM »
Oh little EOS M. What are you going to do now that Sony has launched their EF-capable A7 and A7R?

Just go FF or go home.

I was thinking about this the other day
all they would have to do is take a 6D bits as is whack it into an EOS-M  body with EF Mount and it would sell tons
have a hotshoe mountable EVF as an option perhaps
not sure if the EOS-M body is deep enough though to mount the sensor far enough back and retain the needed depth for the EF lens image circle projection.
of course this would bury the 6D sales but then they would bring out the 6Dmk2 with better AF wouldn't they ;)
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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2013, 11:44:04 PM »
The SX50 was announced Sept 2012, so its time for the SX60.

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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2013, 12:38:22 AM »
How about an all new "full frame" category where the sensor's aspect is 5:7 rather than 4:6?  Then make it a "foveon" type that is "only" 14 MP (x3).  The pixels might thus be large enough to lower the noise of this design a bit, and yet due to its nature, it could possibly still resolve as much or more detail as a standard "bayer" 22 to 24 MP sensor (yet the color would give a special film like quality that Bayer inherently lacks).  Give it a "miniature 1 series" body but with full size 1 series viewfinder and battery, and either the 5D3's AF sensor (or a modernized/adapted 7D, or 1D4 AF sensor...or perhaps something else).  Let it record 16 bit RAW files, and shoot at 5.5 fps, and use something better/faster than CF cards.  Like Nikon has done, give a choice to adjust the amount and type of data compression for RAW files, as well as their bit depth.  It could function as a studio/portrait, or landscape camera...and would be adequate for sports (but would obviously not be the sports camera).  It could be priced at or under $4500.  It could be the "studio/landscape" version of a "5D4", and then let something else be the sports "5D4".  Or maybe instead it could be called an 8D?  Or perhaps an "EOS D"...or just "EOS"? 

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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2013, 08:30:35 AM »
Probably just another printer.

If it is a camera then it is too late (unless it is immediately available) for people to buy for the holiday season.

About all it could do is stop people buying other brands during that time.

But I think the public is growing tired of Canon...

Canon must really be in trouble! Oh wait, they still sell more cameras than any other manufacturer..

What the public in reality does appear to be growing tired of is mirrorless & point&shoot cameras.  These are the two market segments that saw by far the largest percentage sales decline this year across all brands.
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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2013, 06:20:48 AM »
Its not greed, its business.  Mirrorless sells horribly across all manufactures compared to DSLR, so why would Canon stack their resources in a category that fails to sel?

Mirrorless has sold horribly up to now, because products offered ranged between "inadequate and horrible". EOS-M (dog-slow, no EVF), Nikon 1 (dwarf-sensored, too expensive), mFT (generally too expensive and not small/light enough compared to APS-C), APS-C sensored NEX did rather well ... compared to Sony SLT/DSLR sales ;-)

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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2013, 08:00:32 PM »
Its not greed, its business.  Mirrorless sells horribly across all manufactures compared to DSLR, so why would Canon stack their resources in a category that fails to sel?

Mirrorless has sold horribly up to now, because products offered ranged between "inadequate and horrible". EOS-M (dog-slow, no EVF), Nikon 1 (dwarf-sensored, too expensive), mFT (generally too expensive and not small/light enough compared to APS-C), APS-C sensored NEX did rather well ... compared to Sony SLT/DSLR sales ;-)

Wow, so the mirrorless products have not been good a value proposition to date!  What a surprise.  It might happen in a few generations, but not in 2013 nor 2014.  I'll wait when native lens families are more well developed.  f/2.8 primes for $1000?  Not interested.

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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2013, 08:12:40 PM »
Oh little EOS M. What are you going to do now that Sony has launched their EF-capable A7 and A7R?

Just go FF or go home.

I was thinking about this the other day
all they would have to do is take a 6D bits as is whack it into an EOS-M  body with EF Mount and it would sell tons
have a hotshoe mountable EVF as an option perhaps
not sure if the EOS-M body is deep enough though to mount the sensor far enough back and retain the needed depth for the EF lens image circle projection.
of course this would bury the 6D sales but then they would bring out the 6Dmk2 with better AF wouldn't they ;)
a 6D sensor would not solve the big problem with the EOS-M.... slow focus speed.. Let's see what happens if they put a 70D sensor into it....
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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2013, 08:55:31 PM »
Oh little EOS M. What are you going to do now that Sony has launched their EF-capable A7 and A7R?

Just go FF or go home.

I was thinking about this the other day
all they would have to do is take a 6D bits as is whack it into an EOS-M  body with EF Mount and it would sell tons
have a hotshoe mountable EVF as an option perhaps
not sure if the EOS-M body is deep enough though to mount the sensor far enough back and retain the needed depth for the EF lens image circle projection.
of course this would bury the 6D sales but then they would bring out the 6Dmk2 with better AF wouldn't they ;)
a 6D sensor would not solve the big problem with the EOS-M.... slow focus speed.. Let's see what happens if they put a 70D sensor into it....

And if you limit it to EF lenses and made the body 26 mm deeper, you'd still have an off-balance rig with huge lenses on a tiny little camera body.

Now if you made it compatible with EF-M, EF-S, and EF lenses (throwing away a third of the pixels when attached to EF-S and EF-M lenses), then you'd have something that was at least usable, but you'd still have horrible autofocus with EF lenses because they tend to block the IR focus assist beam.  To make a full-frame mirrorless camera, you need to start with a 6D-sized body (or bigger) and move the sensor forward or otherwise make it thinner, not start with a current EF-M body and try to stuff in a larger sensor.

Of course, you'd still have the inherent problem of distortion caused by adapter slump....

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Re: An Announcement Coming in November? [CR1]
« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2013, 08:55:31 PM »