5D Split? 5D X & 5D Mark III [CR1]

[thatcherk1]

Maybe it's already been mentioned, but is there a chance that the 22MP camera is the "EOS Movie" DSLR style camera since 22mp would make sense for that.  I guess that's more than 4k though.  And then a 5Diii is the 46MP rumored camera.

Thoughts?

[Woody]

Just a quick walk through history...

When Canon announced the 5D2 many years back, people claimed (i) they have no need for sensors with more than 12 MP (ii) lenses won't be able to support such a 22 MP sensor (iii) diffraction would kill the usefulness of such a sensor. The 5D2 turned out to be a massive success for Canon.

When there are rumors about Canon releasing a 22 MP FF camera after Nikon's 36 MP D800, people claim Canon is falling behind, and they are going to dump all their Canon stuff for the exciting D800.

When there are rumors about Canon releasing a 45 MP FF camera, people claim lenses won't be able to support the sensor. No more talks about diffraction. No more talks about the uselessness of sensors with more than 12 MP. After all, there's a 36 MP D800 is on the market.

How very interesting.

[kirispupis]

While it would be great if this rumor is true, there is one glaring mistake I see here.

If Canon continues with their current naming convention, then the 22 MP 5D should be called the 5DX and the 45 MP version the 5D3.  In line with the "X" series (1Dx, G1X) all cameras have very good high ISO support.

[DzPhotography]

While it would be great if this rumor is true, there is one glaring mistake I see here.

If Canon continues with their current naming convention, then the 22 MP 5D should be called the 5DX and the 45 MP version the 5D3.  In line with the "X" series (1Dx, G1X) all cameras have very good high ISO support.

yes that would be a lot more logical

[pedro]

I guess one of the first 22 MP rumors mentioned a 5Dx

[mathino]

I've been looking around for some info about trade shows/conferences scheduled in 2012. So here is the list.

February
+ 9-12: CP Plus in Tokyo (Japan)
+ 16-23: WPPI (full conference) in Las Vegas (USA) - the trade show is February 20-22


March
+ 4-7: Focus on Imaging in Birmingham (UK)
+ 6-10: CeBIT in Hannover (Germany)
+ 24-26: Photoshop World in Washington DC (USA) - will IrfanView/MSPaint/GIMP filibuster the event? ;-)

April
+ 14-19: NAB 2012 in Las Vegas (USA)
+ 24-29: Photo & Imaging 2012 in Seoul (Korea)

May
+ 24-27: PMA Australia in Melbourne (Australia)
+ 25-27: ExpoSure (Henry's) in Mississauga (Canada)

June
+ 1-2: Cine Gear Expo in Los Angeles (USA)
+ 5-7: Computex Taipei in Taipei

August
+ 31- Sept 5: IFA 2012 in Berlin (Germany)

September
+ 6-11: IBC 2012 in Amsterdaaam (Holland)
+ 18-23: Photokina (also in German) in Cologne/Koln (Germany)
+ 19-21: DV Expo in Southern California (USA)

So I can see there are som more importatnt trade shows here. If you ask me I will bet on some of these to announcement:

1.) 16-23 of February - WPPI (Wedding & Portrait Photography - as far as I know many of wedding photogs are using 5D-s)
2.) 6-10 of March - CeBIT (I think here could be announced new Rebel)
3.) 14-19 of April - NAB (big show so maybe there)
4.) 18-23 of September - Photokina (big show, I expect some new stuff here).

[digishooter]

Given Canon's recent spoon-feeding history, I'm guessing they will sometime this year release a very minor upgrade to the 5d2 as a 5d3, with improved AF and sensor performance and that's about it, selling for about $2500-2600.00.

Then I'm guessing it will be another year before they come out with a high Mpx camera, since that will be two releases of higher-end bodies in one year.  They don't seem to be worried about what Nikon or Sony does.

[thepancakeman]

The one thing I've been failing to understand with all the 5D replacement spec rumors is why a high MP camera (be it a single model or one of two) would have anything near pro-grade AF. Normally AF is a huge differentiating factor between lines and would pump the cost up quite a bit, but any camera with high MP is clearly being marketed to a studio/landscape/macro crowd in which AF performance is far less important.

The aerial photography crowd needs pro-grade AF along with high MP. 

You and your aerial photography again...just buy a decent spy satelite already!   

[awinphoto]

The one thing I've been failing to understand with all the 5D replacement spec rumors is why a high MP camera (be it a single model or one of two) would have anything near pro-grade AF. Normally AF is a huge differentiating factor between lines and would pump the cost up quite a bit, but any camera with high MP is clearly being marketed to a studio/landscape/macro crowd in which AF performance is far less important.

The aerial photography crowd needs pro-grade AF along with high MP. 

You and your aerial photography again...just buy a decent spy satelite already!   

Lol.. I'm kind of interested at what point and purpose do you need the high MP for aerial photography?  Are you shooting out the window of a flying airplane taking landscapse?  Are you at an air show taking pictures of planes flying or taking photos at or near an airport of airliners landing and taking off?  Are you trying to print banner ads?  Shooting from the ground and trying to get planes in the air i suppose is like bird photography, and cropping could help.  I do commercial aviation photography as part of my business target audience, as well as architecture and such, but either shooting glamour shots of the plane on the ground, interior glamour shots (like confined architecture shots) and the occasional air show but the air show, to me, is more for fun and less business. 

[DzPhotography]

I've been looking around for some info about trade shows/conferences scheduled in 2012. So here is the list.

February
+ 9-12: CP Plus in Tokyo (Japan)
+ 16-23: WPPI (full conference) in Las Vegas (USA) - the trade show is February 20-22


March
+ 4-7: Focus on Imaging in Birmingham (UK)
+ 6-10: CeBIT in Hannover (Germany)
+ 24-26: Photoshop World in Washington DC (USA) - will IrfanView/MSPaint/GIMP filibuster the event? ;-)

April
+ 14-19: NAB 2012 in Las Vegas (USA)
+ 24-29: Photo & Imaging 2012 in Seoul (Korea)

May
+ 24-27: PMA Australia in Melbourne (Australia)
+ 25-27: ExpoSure (Henry's) in Mississauga (Canada)

June
+ 1-2: Cine Gear Expo in Los Angeles (USA)
+ 5-7: Computex Taipei in Taipei

August
+ 31- Sept 5: IFA 2012 in Berlin (Germany)

September
+ 6-11: IBC 2012 in Amsterdaaam (Holland)
+ 18-23: Photokina (also in German) in Cologne/Koln (Germany)
+ 19-21: DV Expo in Southern California (USA)

So I can see there are som more importatnt trade shows here. If you ask me I will bet on some of these to announcement:

1.) 16-23 of February - WPPI (Wedding & Portrait Photography - as far as I know many of wedding photogs are using 5D-s)
2.) 6-10 of March - CeBIT (I think here could be announced new Rebel)
3.) 14-19 of April - NAB (big show so maybe there)
4.) 18-23 of September - Photokina (big show, I expect some new stuff here).

Nice list

[pedro]

5D whatever wise... I'd put my five cents on one of the Vegas events. And if not, let's book at the hilton and attend the Elvis Presley show, or let's stroll over to the Sand's and see Sinatra do come fly with me... To see them perform again is almost more likely than a new Canon body before Photokina 

[mathino]

I've been looking around for some info about trade shows/conferences scheduled in 2012. So here is the list.

February
+ 9-12: CP Plus in Tokyo (Japan)
+ 16-23: WPPI (full conference) in Las Vegas (USA) - the trade show is February 20-22


March
+ 4-7: Focus on Imaging in Birmingham (UK)
+ 6-10: CeBIT in Hannover (Germany)
+ 24-26: Photoshop World in Washington DC (USA) - will IrfanView/MSPaint/GIMP filibuster the event? ;-)

April
+ 14-19: NAB 2012 in Las Vegas (USA)
+ 24-29: Photo & Imaging 2012 in Seoul (Korea)

May
+ 24-27: PMA Australia in Melbourne (Australia)
+ 25-27: ExpoSure (Henry's) in Mississauga (Canada)

June
+ 1-2: Cine Gear Expo in Los Angeles (USA)
+ 5-7: Computex Taipei in Taipei

August
+ 31- Sept 5: IFA 2012 in Berlin (Germany)

September
+ 6-11: IBC 2012 in Amsterdaaam (Holland)
+ 18-23: Photokina (also in German) in Cologne/Koln (Germany)
+ 19-21: DV Expo in Southern California (USA)

So I can see there are som more importatnt trade shows here. If you ask me I will bet on some of these to announcement:

1.) 16-23 of February - WPPI (Wedding & Portrait Photography - as far as I know many of wedding photogs are using 5D-s)
2.) 6-10 of March - CeBIT (I think here could be announced new Rebel)
3.) 14-19 of April - NAB (big show so maybe there)
4.) 18-23 of September - Photokina (big show, I expect some new stuff here).

Nice list

Took quiet a while to find it but it gives us at least some clue when we can expect something. Hope for whatever-it-wil-be-called-22 mpx-good high ISO-good AF-camera before summer ! It will also burst Canon sales into very high level. And ofc some lenses would be welcomed (at leaste updated 50 f/1.4 USM).

[pedro]

I^m in...and I will take a stunning ISO 25600 pic of Presley at full blast !!!

[K-amps]

why only 51200 ISO while 1DX has 204800? i can't believe their sensosr has 2 steps difference in sensivity.

Why not. ISO limits are set by firmware. Photosamples are jpeg's, which implies Dual Digic magic fairy dust... As long as the RAW noise levels are on par, we should be ecstatic!   

[mathino]

5D whatever wise... I'd put my five cents on one of the Vegas events. And if not, let's book at the hilton and attend the Elvis Presley show, or let's stroll over to the Sand's and see Sinatra do come fly with me... To see them perform again is almost more likely than a new Canon body before Photokina 

I think that Vegas shows are quiet possible.
1.) First is for wedding & portrait photogs - 5D Mark III (with specs as mentioned) is camera that will be used buy those photogs
2.) Second is NAB - it is a big show and there could be 5D Mark III announced too. Also RED is there listed ad far as I remeber. So basicly I am thinking of this show due to some new video features on new body.

...and if they announce 5D Mark III (with those specs) before summer then some of photogs of Olympics may buy them as new backup bodies. Just my thoughts.

I bet my 2 cents on 40+ mpx body on Photokina or even later.