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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2018, 01:04:27 PM »
Help anyone, is there a good resource covering the set up required to remote control a gimbal while having remote video monitoring at the same time?
 
Since one would want to view what the camera is capturing, I'm presuming it would be necessary to also have a separate transmitter sending the HDMI camera output to a video receiver along with the gimbal/camera remote control unit. 

Since the Crane 2 has a remote unit available is the only advantage of the Ronin-S it's much better range or would the remote control be better in other respects?  My poor aging brain is getting overloaded! ;)

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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2018, 01:04:27 PM »

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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #46 on: June 12, 2018, 01:14:05 PM »
Jack, you may be getting over your head here for the simple things you are wanting to do...

You can buy "field monitors" that are like 7" and hook up via the hdmi output. They can be cold shoe-d on to the camera/gimbal device somehow. We are talking several hundred $ for something cheap. You need batteries for them too.

Not sure about the remotes.
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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #47 on: June 12, 2018, 06:08:44 PM »
Help anyone, is there a good resource covering the set up required to remote control a gimbal while having remote video monitoring at the same time?

The Crane does that, the Ronin I don't believe does. But they are both Bluetooth so very limited range.

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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2018, 07:36:21 PM »
All these gimbal videos make it look so nice, mainly because they don't have a 1dx on it! You can't move like they do with the 1dx.
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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2018, 09:49:07 PM »
Thanks both of you for the feedback.  The video was interesting in spite of the goofiness. I did try the app controlling the Crane 2 and it worked fine except for the range.  It's WiFi type range that I would like so I could shoot photos or video at about 150 feet and monitor what I'm shooting while aiming where I please.  So presumably I need an HDMI output feed to a transmitter and some way of receiving the signal to display on a phone or computer.  I can't see any way the CamRanger can factor into this equation and don't know what the alternatives are.

Otherwise, I'm just walking around capturing hand held video while viewing LiveView on the camera and would probably be satisfied with the Crane.  And yes, I can get too carried away with my perceived needs. ;)

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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #50 on: June 12, 2018, 10:36:58 PM »
They do make wireless HD transmitters, but those are rather expensive. You could get the wifi adapter for the 1dx and use the canon remote program on your computer to monitor the video the camera is recording and all its settings.
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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #51 on: June 12, 2018, 11:26:36 PM »
They do make wireless HD transmitters, but those are rather expensive. You could get the wifi adapter for the 1dx and use the canon remote program on your computer to monitor the video the camera is recording and all its settings.

That then brings me back to my CamRanger purchase as an alternative to the very expensive dongle.  Now, the CamRanger can't work along with the gimbal so forget that.  However, from what you're saying what would control the gimbal at 150 feet if I were monitoring the video with Canon's app and using the expensive dongle?

Is it so complex?  Wouldn't the gimbal guys want us to be able to remote control camera and gimbal while viewing at a reasonable distance?

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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #51 on: June 12, 2018, 11:26:36 PM »

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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #52 on: June 12, 2018, 11:49:53 PM »
Not sure. Get the Crane remote and a long USB/USB extender.
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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2018, 01:05:40 AM »
Ethan, apparently the 1DX2 dongle will only transmit video after it's shot, at least from what I've been able to glean.  I see there are HDMI Rx, Tx pairs that could transmit from the camera for under $1k and if that was done then I guess the issue becomes strictly the range of the gimbal remote control, which so far appears to be crummy although there are references to the Ronin-S using longer range wireless but I can't get any specific accessory information so far.

Guess they've rushed it out the door to stop Zhiyun from taking customers.

That's it for me.  I will now await Scott's feedback relative to remote control on the Ronin-S and unless it's very positive and or some of the features are very impressive, I'll stick with what I've got.  One has to assume that there will be updates to the Crane 2 to try to mimic some of what Ronin-S does.

One thing, I really dislike the Crane joystick for fine control when carrying that weight.  Maybe I'll add a gob of silicone or some such modification so it isn't so slippery to my tough dry skin. 

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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2018, 10:11:54 AM »
Ethan, apparently the 1DX2 dongle will only transmit video after it's shot, at least from what I've been able to glean.  I see there are HDMI Rx, Tx pairs that could transmit from the camera for under $1k and if that was done then I guess the issue becomes strictly the range of the gimbal remote control, which so far appears to be crummy although there are references to the Ronin-S using longer range wireless but I can't get any specific accessory information so far.

Guess they've rushed it out the door to stop Zhiyun from taking customers.

That's it for me.  I will now await Scott's feedback relative to remote control on the Ronin-S and unless it's very positive and or some of the features are very impressive, I'll stick with what I've got.  One has to assume that there will be updates to the Crane 2 to try to mimic some of what Ronin-S does.

One thing, I really dislike the Crane joystick for fine control when carrying that weight.  Maybe I'll add a gob of silicone or some such modification so it isn't so slippery to my tough dry skin. 

Jack

Oh, I've never used the wireless dongle. I have plugged in to the ethernet port and controlled it via a computer before. It shows the live view screen.

You could put some moisturizer on your skin  ;)
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Re: DJI Launches The Ronin-S Gimbal Stabilizer
« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2018, 01:26:24 PM »
Haha, but what I want is a more clearly defined transition from slow to fast and a more positive contact between thumb and the joystick button.  If you saw what physical activities my thumb is engaged in like welding and grinding etc. you'd understand why lotion probably won't help. ;)

Overall, I'm not dissatisfied with the Crane in case I'm giving the wrong impression.

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