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Title: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on October 09, 2012, 01:53:57 PM
Been playing around with some black glass (or film) recently.  Here are a few of my first attempts.  I can get up to 20 minute exposures in broad daylight if I push everything to its max (or should I say min), but these are all around 4-5 minutes each.  All shot with the 5D mkiii and the 14mm 2.8 L II.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8461/8071387981_09da468051_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8071387981/)
Empty at Rush Hour (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8071387981/#) by @!ex (http://www.flickr.com/people/benison/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8176/8027626280_a3eac03fd6_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8027626280/)
Road to Eldorado (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8027626280/#) by @!ex (http://www.flickr.com/people/benison/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8309/8018231009_51d833bc9d_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8018231009/)
Neutral Density Time Warp (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8018231009/#) by @!ex (http://www.flickr.com/people/benison/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Dylan777 on October 09, 2012, 02:35:05 PM
Awesome shots Alex
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Chewy734 on October 09, 2012, 02:51:27 PM
beautiful shots Alex!

By black glass do you mean something like a Big Stopper?  or something else?
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: lecoupdejarnac on October 09, 2012, 02:54:00 PM
Those are indeed killer shots.

I too would really like to know what kind of filters you are using to get these shots please  :D
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: atosk930 on October 09, 2012, 03:23:27 PM
Definitely has the "wow" factor and I'd love to know what this "black glass" is.

Any HDR in these? If so, it is done perfectly IMO. Great shots!
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: bbasiaga on October 09, 2012, 03:24:22 PM
I'm guessing its a super dark ND.  Maybe like a N14 welders glass.  If you figure broad daylight going to 4-5min, that's 14-15ish stops, depending on ISO and aperture. 

-Brian
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: wayno on October 09, 2012, 04:11:55 PM
Very impressive. I've tried this with my Hoya 9 stop and it won't go to 5 minutes let alone 30 seconds at 9 stop. Must be greater? Also I found f22 a bit so-so IQ wise... Your method?
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Menace on October 09, 2012, 05:24:24 PM
Stunning Alex, well done  :)
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: jVillaPhoto on October 09, 2012, 06:27:16 PM
Indeed, great shots! I'm going to buy another ND filter(possibly around 4-6 stop reduction) to stack on my Singh-Ray Vari ND that has 8 stops, not sure if it's possible though, any ideas?
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: lol on October 09, 2012, 06:53:03 PM
Interesting... I have to wonder how bad hot pixels might be with such exposures.

If anyone needs a high density ND, you could try Baader astrosolar film. It comes in two versions, the stronger version is >16 stops effective (they say >99.999% reduction) and is made specifically to make direct viewing of the sun safe.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: TexPhoto on October 09, 2012, 07:00:51 PM
Very nice Alex!  But spill the beans man, how you do these?
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: crasher8 on October 09, 2012, 08:16:15 PM
Now this is what I love about photography!
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: bykes on October 09, 2012, 08:18:51 PM
Very nice!  I have a 10x ND that's a lot if fun to use in daylight.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: TrumpetPower! on October 09, 2012, 08:36:18 PM
Interesting... I have to wonder how bad hot pixels might be with such exposures.

If anyone needs a high density ND, you could try Baader astrosolar film. It comes in two versions, the stronger version is >16 stops effective (they say >99.999% reduction) and is made specifically to make direct viewing of the sun safe.

I was just thinking of that. I've got a Baader filter for the 400. Finding something to shoot with an ultra-long exposure with a 400 might be a bit of a challenge, though....

b&
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on October 09, 2012, 08:47:35 PM
Hey guys, sorry I've been busy at work all day and the "notify me of replies" feature only seems to work sometimes (and in this case, not at all).  So, by black glass I was referring to a very dark ND filter, in this case its not technically glass, but rather a gel.  I'm using a 4.0 and I think that equates to 14 stops, and then I'm using f16-22 and iso 50-400, depending on the scene.  Like I said at 50iso and f22, I think I could push a 20min exp no problem (and maybe even 40min, as that would only be 1 stop brighter than 20min).  As for f22 degrading IQ, I wouldn't worry about it, your not going to get great IQ, no matter what you do, on a 5+ minute exposure (camera shake, movement, changing light, light refraction, wind ect), its more about the effect than the IQ.  As for hot pixels, you definitely get quite a few, and I suppose I could use a subtraction image, but I'm too impatient, so I just deal with them in post.  No HDR in these, as I obviously didn't need it, one thing I've found is that the DR in these super long exposures is incredible, I haven't figured out why from a physics stand point (to be honest I haven't even looked into it yet), but I'm sure there is a reason.  I have plans to shoot a few locations with long exposures like these that would have enough DR to necessitate HDR, which I'd be more than happy to post.  I'd love to see some of the stuff you guys have come up with using similar techniques...
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: wayno on October 09, 2012, 08:55:41 PM
Excellent. 90% of my stuf is long exposure between 2-7 minutes but at night.
I think LR must take care of any hot pixels as I never see them shooting RAW.

I tend to get great sharpness from long F8 exposures. Tripod shake should not end a factor IMO.

I have found F22 flaky in comparison.

Great work, well done mate.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: keithfullermusic on October 09, 2012, 09:41:28 PM
what gel are you using?  brand?  price?  link? 

these have always been some of my favorite types of shots, but i ain't spending 80 bazillion dollars on a square piece of glass from Lee (don't care how good it is).
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: bbasiaga on October 09, 2012, 10:57:40 PM
what gel are you using?  brand?  price?  link? 

these have always been some of my favorite types of shots, but i ain't spending 80 bazillion dollars on a square piece of glass from Lee (don't care how good it is).

You could go to harbor freight or some other cheap tool shop ang get a number 14 welders glass.  I was serious when i suggested that may be what was used here.  It is dark enough to allow you to look at the sun, like solar film.  Tbe 14, i believe,is the numberof halves, or stops, of light it cuts out.   Probablyhave to deal with some color cast, and use some gallers tape to hold it to the lens, but it should work. 

Metalized solar filters are also available in sizes thatcan be mounted to lenses, for usually around $90.  They definitely haveacolor cast.

-Brian
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on October 10, 2012, 01:05:08 AM
what gel are you using?  brand?  price?  link? 

these have always been some of my favorite types of shots, but i ain't spending 80 bazillion dollars on a square piece of glass from Lee (don't care how good it is).

Kodak.  They are kinda hard to find as no one uses them anymore.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on October 10, 2012, 01:08:01 AM
Excellent. 90% of my stuf is long exposure between 2-7 minutes but at night.
I think LR must take care of any hot pixels as I never see them shooting RAW.

I tend to get great sharpness from long F8 exposures. Tripod shake should not end a factor IMO.

I have found F22 flaky in comparison.

Great work, well done mate.

Which lens?
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: keithfullermusic on October 10, 2012, 03:17:05 AM
is it something like this - http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/549036-REG/Kodak_8645541_3_x_3_Neutral.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/549036-REG/Kodak_8645541_3_x_3_Neutral.html)
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: pj1974 on October 11, 2012, 05:54:30 AM
Alex, these are AWESOME photos... for your 'first attempts' - absolutely stunning work.

The ultra wide perspective is very cool.   8)

Very quickly, I did some basic calculations, and realise your 'black glass' is WAY WAY WAYYYYY darker than even 3 x ND8 filters stacked.

I have 1 x ND8 (72mm) filter and a 1 x CPL (72mm) filter - which I sometimes stack.  The ND8 (and if necessary stacked with CPL) helps in some situations eg with waterfalls in broad daylight to get a long exposure... but can't give the effect like you get.

Inspiring work... I really like that the colours and tone of your photos are so 'strong' and yet natural. (I do use HDR on occasion, but very carefully - not to overcook it).

Cheers... thanks for sharing.    ;)
 
Paul
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on October 12, 2012, 02:41:49 PM
Alex, these are AWESOME photos... for your 'first attempts' - absolutely stunning work.

The ultra wide perspective is very cool.   8)

Very quickly, I did some basic calculations, and realise your 'black glass' is WAY WAY WAYYYYY darker than even 3 x ND8 filters stacked.

I have 1 x ND8 (72mm) filter and a 1 x CPL (72mm) filter - which I sometimes stack.  The ND8 (and if necessary stacked with CPL) helps in some situations eg with waterfalls in broad daylight to get a long exposure... but can't give the effect like you get.

Inspiring work... I really like that the colours and tone of your photos are so 'strong' and yet natural. (I do use HDR on occasion, but very carefully - not to overcook it).

Cheers... thanks for sharing.    ;)
 
Paul

Thanks, I really appreciate it.  Ya the ND scale is non linear so you are correct, I am working with a MUCH darker ND than your stack.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on October 12, 2012, 02:43:57 PM
Another new one from the other day.  I bracketed this image before the long exposure, but the DR was so good on the single long exposure that I didn't even need/want to use any of the brackets for the final image.  This is just a converted RAW, pretty much straight from camera...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8056/8080482635_d42137b513_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8080482635/)
Is Where I Drew Some Blood (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8080482635/#) by @!ex (http://www.flickr.com/people/benison/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: crasher8 on October 12, 2012, 05:12:07 PM
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/536687-REG/Kodak_1507748_3_x_3_Neutral.html/mode/edu (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/536687-REG/Kodak_1507748_3_x_3_Neutral.html/mode/edu)

something like this?
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: V8Beast on October 12, 2012, 06:06:22 PM
Brilliant work! Very well done!
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: crasher8 on October 12, 2012, 06:28:16 PM
I'm such a ND noob. With a 9 stop ND400x in daylight shooting landscape at infinity (something I might be shooting at f/16 with no filter) do I just factor the shutter speed by 9 stops and leave the aperture alone?
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: bbasiaga on October 12, 2012, 06:54:07 PM
I'm such a ND noob. With a 9 stop ND400x in daylight shooting landscape at infinity (something I might be shooting at f/16 with no filter) do I just factor the shutter speed by 9 stops and leave the aperture alone?
y


Yep.  You have to get9 stops somewhere to get the equivalent exposure.  You can do long exposures like those here, or use it to get shallow dof (wide apertures) in bright sun.

-Brian
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Grumbaki on November 07, 2012, 03:01:27 AM
I'm probably gonna test black glass soon but my idea is a bit specific so maybe you (OP) can share your experience.

I want to use that technique to shoot empty streets...was there many people coming and going in during shooting? (like stairs and bridge ones).

Thanks in advance, I'll make sure to share my "empty" china" pics!
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: shutterwideshut on November 30, 2012, 06:21:25 AM
My own 14-stop daytime long exposure shot with the 17-40mm glass+Lee Big Stopper+Lee 1.2 ND filter

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8209/8215961648_76071a10d5.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maniniyut/8215961648/in/photostream)
Elation (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maniniyut/8215961648/#) by [shutterwideshut] (http://www.flickr.com/people/maniniyut/) on Flickr
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: faccray on November 30, 2012, 08:31:50 AM
..love long daytime shots as well with my black glass.... here's one I took with a B+W 10 stopper on my 5DMK3
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: arcanej on November 30, 2012, 04:17:11 PM
@!ex, beautiful shots!

How did you mount the gel to the 14mm?
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Daniel Flather on December 01, 2012, 02:38:03 PM
@!ex, beautiful shots!

How did you mount the gel to the 14mm?

The 14L has a gel holder in the back, much like the 8-15L.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Krob78 on December 01, 2012, 02:48:46 PM
Been playing around with some black glass (or film) recently.  Here are a few of my first attempts.  I can get up to 20 minute exposures in broad daylight if I push everything to its max (or should I say min), but these are all around 4-5 minutes each.  All shot with the 5D mkiii and the 14mm 2.8 L II.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8461/8071387981_09da468051_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8071387981/)
Empty at Rush Hour (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8071387981/#) by @!ex (http://www.flickr.com/people/benison/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8176/8027626280_a3eac03fd6_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8027626280/)
Road to Eldorado (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8027626280/#) by @!ex (http://www.flickr.com/people/benison/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8309/8018231009_51d833bc9d_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8018231009/)
Neutral Density Time Warp (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8018231009/#) by @!ex (http://www.flickr.com/people/benison/), on Flickr
That first image is exceptional Alex.  I really, really like it!  Great composition, color, and texture variety is pretty moving!  Very Cool  8)
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on December 01, 2012, 04:32:39 PM
Been playing around with some black glass (or film) recently.  Here are a few of my first attempts.  I can get up to 20 minute exposures in broad daylight if I push everything to its max (or should I say min), but these are all around 4-5 minutes each.  All shot with the 5D mkiii and the 14mm 2.8 L II.


That first image is exceptional Alex.  I really, really like it!  Great composition, color, and texture variety is pretty moving!  Very Cool  8)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: arcanej on December 01, 2012, 06:15:48 PM
Daniel Flather: I did not know that! I guess that shows how much I look at the back of a lens.

Where can one purchase gels that fit?
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on December 03, 2012, 02:50:00 AM
Daniel Flather: I did not know that! I guess that shows how much I look at the back of a lens.

Where can one purchase gels that fit?

Any gel will fit, there is an outline on the back of the lens, can't remember exactly the measurements, but you just cut the gel with some regular scissors and then you pop it in (they are just like pieces of transparency paper).  A nice thing is that the standard gel size could actually give you more than one filter at the size you need, that way if you mess one up you can just cut another one.  I use a folded lens cloth to hold them in an old, small lens-filter case for portability.  Much nicer then carrying around a lee big stopper, which is why I prefer them.  Also they are much better in terms of color neutrality than glass because they are almost perfectly neutral, AND they are a LOT cheaper...
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: revup67 on December 03, 2012, 04:07:44 AM
Quote
I want to use that technique to shoot empty streets...was there many people coming and going in during shooting? (like stairs and bridge ones).

With a B&W 10 stopper (example or ND 400 Hoya) you won't see any people coming any going on a 4-5 minute exposure. This is the beauty of that dark glass extending your exposure time.

Just don't forget to do the MLU (mirror lock up) to avoid vibration. 

I've read about the IQ degrading at F16 and F22 or higher (one of mine goes to F32) but I believe that only applies to shorter exposures example 1/15, 1/10, etc.  if you have that lens open long enough the sensor will pick up more detail, colors etc which would somewhat mitigate the worry over IQ (excluding diffraction of course).
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: revup67 on December 03, 2012, 04:24:51 AM
Hey Alex..nice shots especially the first one - very clean.  Seems there might be a bit too much under exposure on the second and third though not sure if that happened in post and the over exposure on the sun perhaps too long on the time allowance?  Just some thoughts and I did see you mention these are not HDR.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: rahkshi007 on December 03, 2012, 05:09:29 AM
Another new one from the other day.  I bracketed this image before the long exposure, but the DR was so good on the single long exposure that I didn't even need/want to use any of the brackets for the final image.  This is just a converted RAW, pretty much straight from camera...

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8056/8080482635_d42137b513_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8080482635/)
Is Where I Drew Some Blood (http://www.flickr.com/photos/benison/8080482635/#) by @!ex (http://www.flickr.com/people/benison/), on Flickr
amazing !
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: AmbientLight on December 03, 2012, 05:24:14 AM
Great shots @!ex and thank you for sharing some of the ingredients (Kodak gel). I really love how you have chosen to collect more light using longer exposures instead of using HDR. Nice work!
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Jesse on December 03, 2012, 10:34:31 AM
So an ND 1.2 is 4 stops. Where can I get one of these crazy 10 stop filters? I've never seen more than a 1.2.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on December 03, 2012, 02:52:20 PM
So an ND 1.2 is 4 stops. Where can I get one of these crazy 10 stop filters? I've never seen more than a 1.2.

Search the internet.  I think B&H or adarama..
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on December 03, 2012, 02:53:31 PM
Just don't forget to do the MLU (mirror lock up) to avoid vibration. 
Any vibration caused by mirror movement should affect the image minimally, as long as the vibration lasts for <1 second, and the exposure on the order of minutes
Quote
I've read about the IQ degrading at F16 and F22 or higher (one of mine goes to F32) but I believe that only applies to shorter exposures example 1/15, 1/10, etc.  if you have that lens open long enough the sensor will pick up more detail, colors etc which would somewhat mitigate the worry over IQ (excluding diffraction of course).
Diffraction is the main cause of image degradation at small apertures, and it occurs regardless of integration time.

-h

+1, MLU is pointless on these shots as any vibration would happen so fast that no light would even be registered on the sensor yet.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: SPL on December 03, 2012, 03:42:11 PM
So an ND 1.2 is 4 stops. Where can I get one of these crazy 10 stop filters? I've never seen more than a 1.2.
I got mine from Adorama,...it is a B + W 110 ND filter,...they are fun!.....
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: jcollett on December 03, 2012, 03:48:25 PM
what gel are you using?  brand?  price?  link? 

these have always been some of my favorite types of shots, but i ain't spending 80 bazillion dollars on a square piece of glass from Lee (don't care how good it is).

You could go to harbor freight or some other cheap tool shop ang get a number 14 welders glass.  I was serious when i suggested that may be what was used here.  It is dark enough to allow you to look at the sun, like solar film.  Tbe 14, i believe,is the numberof halves, or stops, of light it cuts out.   Probablyhave to deal with some color cast, and use some gallers tape to hold it to the lens, but it should work. 

Metalized solar filters are also available in sizes thatcan be mounted to lenses, for usually around $90.  They definitely haveacolor cast.

-Brian

Regarding the formula, you are essentially right.  To figure out the percentage of light a given filter will transmit, use this formula...

Filtered light amount in percent = 100/(2^x)  where x equals the stop number.  The ^ carrot symbolizes a superscript or power of the 2 or 2 to the x power.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: revup67 on December 04, 2012, 03:38:36 AM
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Any vibration caused by mirror movement should affect the image minimally, as long as the vibration lasts for <1 second, and the exposure on the order of minutes

+2 - True without question esp. on shots 2 and 3 but shot number 1 appears close to street traffic  (seems apparent) possible more vibrations throughout entire length of exposure.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on December 04, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
Quote
Any vibration caused by mirror movement should affect the image minimally, as long as the vibration lasts for <1 second, and the exposure on the order of minutes

+2 - True without question esp. on shots 2 and 3 but shot number 1 appears close to street traffic  (seems apparent) possible more vibrations throughout entire length of exposure.

Ya the thing to worry about a lot more (like you are saying) on these long exposures is wind and tripod shift.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: 1982chris911 on December 16, 2012, 07:44:15 AM
Seeing this post I tried the same with a ND1000 filter... This is one of the results with the 5d MkIII

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8188/8097598013_f35ed2736f_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisk1982/8097598013/)
Regensburg Reflected (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisk1982/8097598013/#) von 1982Chris911 (Thank you 1.000.000 Times) (http://www.flickr.com/people/chrisk1982/) auf Flickr
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: serendipidy on December 16, 2012, 06:30:16 PM
1982chris911

Very beautiful...nicely done!
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on December 17, 2012, 01:29:06 AM
Chris, nice comp, but I'm wondering what you achieved by the long exposure?  Maybe a bit smother water?  I see that it was 8 seconds and ISO 320, f8.  why not push it a bit more, and get a 30sec+ exposure?  you would start to get a lot more cloud movement and a more surreal effect, but maybe that is just my tendency to push things to the limit.  Also the white balance is just a bit off, which tends to be a major problem of dark ND filters.  Always helpful to shoot these in RAW so it's not as much of a problem.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: 1982chris911 on December 17, 2012, 05:49:04 AM
Chris, nice comp, but I'm wondering what you achieved by the long exposure?  Maybe a bit smother water?  I see that it was 8 seconds and ISO 320, f8.  why not push it a bit more, and get a 30sec+ exposure?  you would start to get a lot more cloud movement and a more surreal effect, but maybe that is just my tendency to push things to the limit.  Also the white balance is just a bit off, which tends to be a major problem of dark ND filters.  Always helpful to shoot these in RAW so it's not as much of a problem.

The 8sec exposure  is just the middle of the bracket... (-2 to +2)
The WB maybe a bit off, but for an evening shot I like this warmer look more, after all that was directly before sunset and the orange tone is usually also there in nature.

The effect is btw quite drastic, the lower half of the picture would be a total different look if not using the filter as this is a running river. However I would not want to stack two filters or use much lower f values as I think you lose way too much fine detail. (The detail on this is quite good at original resolution)     
 
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Krob78 on December 30, 2012, 12:58:44 AM
Excited!  My GF just gave me a 9 stop Variable ND for Christmas!  Can't wait to try it out!  ;D
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: @!ex on December 30, 2012, 02:10:32 AM
Excited!  My GF just gave me a 9 stop Variable ND for Christmas!  Can't wait to try it out!  ;D
It is a cancer, you will crave more ND stops the moment you play with the 9 you already have...
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Krob78 on December 30, 2012, 06:30:55 PM
Excited!  My GF just gave me a 9 stop Variable ND for Christmas!  Can't wait to try it out!  ;D
It is a cancer, you will crave more ND stops the moment you play with the 9 you already have...
Well, it begins tomorrow!  The images you have are already becoming addicting... I only hope to be as successful as you with them...  Getting ready to go buy some welders glass if I have too! 8)
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: mcintoshi on January 17, 2013, 03:08:28 AM
Before I got my 5D3, I played with a 10 stop ND that I used on my old 1000D + 10-22mm.  One of the better results below.  You're right Alex, there does seem to be some sort of increase in DR going on with these images - the one below is straight off the camera.

One thing that would be good to know is: does anyone have any recommendations for a 10 stop ND filter for an 82mm thread, e.g. for the 16-35mm L?  I couldn't seem to find them when I looked a while ago.
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2572/5820150577_3cd04ba5fb_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: pedro on January 17, 2013, 06:14:31 AM
See here for 82 ND

http://thefilterconnection.com/shopsite_sc/shopping_cart/order.cgi?rd=1&storeid= (http://thefilterconnection.com/shopsite_sc/shopping_cart/order.cgi?rd=1&storeid=)*1600b0e6c13a80191797f61f92&sbid=SSMSB1358420894.62895&redirect=yes
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Raddy on January 17, 2013, 06:19:37 AM
One thing that would be good to know is: does anyone have any recommendations for a 10 stop ND filter for an 82mm thread, e.g. for the 16-35mm L?  I couldn't seem to find them when I looked a while ago.

Actually I was looking for the same thing and came across the Heliopan ND filters. Seems like B&W doesn't offer ND filters bigger than 77mm.

This should be the one...
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/755956-REG/Heliopan_10221_82mm_Neutral_Density_ND.html (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/755956-REG/Heliopan_10221_82mm_Neutral_Density_ND.html)
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Raddy on January 17, 2013, 06:21:13 AM
See here for 82 ND

http://thefilterconnection.com/shopsite_sc/shopping_cart/order.cgi?rd=1&storeid= (http://thefilterconnection.com/shopsite_sc/shopping_cart/order.cgi?rd=1&storeid=)*1600b0e6c13a80191797f61f92&sbid=SSMSB1358420894.62895&redirect=yes

Wow! A 82mm B&W. I guess I was then told wrong...
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Schruminator on January 17, 2013, 06:22:07 AM
This is a photo I took looking across the Missouri River onto Nebraska's shores just a few weeks ago. The ice flowing with the river worked great for a long exposure.

(http://pcdn.500px.net/22372797/d749ab61b7a01f0aa4d3b96583b28858235f9283/4.jpg)

(http://500px.com/photo/22372797 (http://500px.com/photo/22372797))
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: mcintoshi on January 17, 2013, 09:57:05 AM
Thanks Pedro and Raddy.  Yeah they ain't cheap those filters are they?  Still, it'd be worth it to get the best filter given the amount I've already invested in good IQ with the 5D3 & 16-35mm.  It just doesn't make sense to put a crappy filter in front of good glass.  Will save my pennies.

@Schruminator - nice shot.  Something about these long exposures that just brings gorgeous colour & contrast.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Ryan on January 20, 2013, 11:53:42 PM
I was able to track down an 82mm ND110 for my 16-35mm f/2.8L II from www.2filter.com (http://www.2filter.com).  The website seems a bit sketchy, but I had no issues (other than the fact that they sent me a Scheider optics filter instead of the advertised "B+W" filter).  Below are some shots I took this weekend with my 24-105 using the B+W ND110.  The first is an 88 second exposure (before the sun went down).  The second is a 4 minute exposure

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8327/8398063457_1af4cc6490_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanpmurphy/8398063457/)
Atlanta cityscape sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanpmurphy/8398063457/#) by ryotnlpm (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanpmurphy/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8465/8395764187_d61a322cbf_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanpmurphy/8395764187/)
[19/365] - Atlanta skyline from the Jackson Street Bridge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanpmurphy/8395764187/) by ryotnlpm (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanpmurphy/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Quasimodo on January 21, 2013, 12:05:27 AM
I was able to track down an 82mm ND110 for my 16-35mm f/2.8L II from www.2filter.com (http://www.2filter.com).  The website seems a bit sketchy, but I had no issues (other than the fact that they sent me a Scheider optics filter instead of the advertised "B+W" filter).  Below are some shots I took this weekend with my 24-105 using the B+W ND110.  The first is an 88 second exposure (before the sun went down).  The second is a 4 minute exposure

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8327/8398063457_1af4cc6490_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanpmurphy/8398063457/)
Atlanta cityscape sunset (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanpmurphy/8398063457/#) by ryotnlpm (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanpmurphy/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8465/8395764187_d61a322cbf_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanpmurphy/8395764187/)
[19/365] - Atlanta skyline from the Jackson Street Bridge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanpmurphy/8395764187/) by ryotnlpm (http://www.flickr.com/people/ryanpmurphy/), on Flickr

Nice pictures!

I believe that B&W is produced by Schneider. When I got my slim UV filter for my 16-35 II it came with a plastic protector which had the name Schneider optics on it, but the name on the filter itself said B&W.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: serendipidy on January 21, 2013, 12:56:21 AM
I believe that B&W is produced by Schneider.

I think that is correct.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Schruminator on January 21, 2013, 01:53:05 AM
Ryan, the photos look great. I love how the long exposure basically eliminates traffic (well, besides the hint of a taillight or two I see in the second one). It's definitely given me some ideas once I get some free time and good weather! Nice pics :)
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: mcintoshi on January 21, 2013, 07:29:42 AM
Nice shots, Ryan.  I know a lot of long exposure shots tend to have a colour cast, but I kind of enjoy it - assuming it fits the scene as it does here.  Long exposures and colour casts both tend to sit well with sunsets.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Krob78 on April 02, 2013, 01:30:43 PM
Okay, just got the new filter, can't wait to get out there and try this!
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Haydn1971 on April 02, 2013, 04:01:41 PM
I found that my B&W ND1000 gave a brown warm cast whereas my Dorr ND1000 gives a neutral to slightly blue cast...  Dorr also do 82mm filters (I'm in the UK)
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: RLPhoto on April 02, 2013, 04:54:56 PM
Love these shots alex. Very solid photographer indeed.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: TrumpetPower! on April 02, 2013, 06:01:19 PM
You know...I'm starting to think that I might personally prefer using a pinhole to do these sorts of things...I'll have to give it a try....

b&
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: KyleSTL on April 02, 2013, 06:51:19 PM
Ryan, my first thought is: where are all the abandoned cars on the highway fleeing Atlanta?  For those of you not familiar with The Walking Dead, do yourself a favor and watch it.  Great cinematic style, good effects and gives an excellent feeling of a post-apocalyptic world.

Anyway, back on topic, great shots.  I have wanted to get some high ND filters for a while and experiment.  This thread might cause me to finally take the plunge.
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: RGF on June 08, 2013, 08:08:03 PM
Great work.  Never thought of long day time exposure.  New idea to experiment with
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: killswitch on June 09, 2013, 12:18:44 AM
5D3 + 16-35 II. Used the 10 stop from Haida (Thanks to Dustin for the heads up).

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7330/8917479958_86ee663662_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhanadislam/8917479958/)
Twilight and Tranquility II (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhanadislam/8917479958/#) by Dhanad Islam (http://www.flickr.com/people/dhanadislam/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Krob78 on June 10, 2013, 02:32:39 PM
5D3 + 16-35 II. Used the 10 stop from Haida (Thanks to Dustin for the heads up).

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7330/8917479958_86ee663662_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhanadislam/8917479958/)
Twilight and Tranquility II (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhanadislam/8917479958/#) by Dhanad Islam (http://www.flickr.com/people/dhanadislam/), on Flickr
Great image Killswitch!
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: killswitch on June 11, 2013, 09:57:16 AM
One more from the trip

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5324/9015153727_d7b6ebf274_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhanadislam/9015153727/)
Slice of Heaven III (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhanadislam/9015153727/#) by Dhanad Islam (http://www.flickr.com/people/dhanadislam/), on Flickr

Thanks Krob78 =)
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Click on June 11, 2013, 10:29:24 AM
Beautiful landscape killswitch.  8)
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: shutterwideshut on June 11, 2013, 10:44:18 AM
My high noon  long exposure shots using a screw-in IR filter

The Invisible Spectrum
Canon EOS 5D Mark III ı Canon EF17-40mm f/4L USM  ı Hoya R72 IR Filter ı 25mm ı 120s ı f/8 ı ISO 200
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/3725/8977998638_a5f7190754.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maniniyut//8977998638/)
The Invisible Spectrum (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maniniyut//8977998638/) by shutterwideshut (http://www.flickr.com/people/maniniyut/) on Flickr

Marina Bay in Infrared
Canon EOS 5D Mark III ı Canon EF17-40mm f/4L USM  ı Hoya R72 IR Filter ı 17mm ı 120s ı f/8 ı ISO 200
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8388/8643810063_caff006ce1.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maniniyut/8643810063/)
Marina Bay in Infrared (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maniniyut/8643810063/#) by shutterwideshut (http://www.flickr.com/people/maniniyut/) on Flickr

Déjà vu
Canon EOS 5D Mark III ı Canon EF17-40mm f/4L USM  ı Hoya R72 IR Filter ı 17mm ı 239s ı f/8 ı ISO 100
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8104/8652262494_f82eda102e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maniniyut/8652262494/in/photostream)
Déjà vu (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maniniyut/8652262494/#in/photostream) by shutterwideshut (http://www.flickr.com/people/maniniyut/) on Flickr
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: Darlip on June 11, 2013, 10:51:49 AM
My high noon  long exposure shots using a screw-in IR filter

Great pictures Shutter :)
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: sunnyVan on June 11, 2013, 12:22:13 PM
Does anyone have experience with Lee filters?  Would you recommend? 
Title: Re: Ultra long daytime exposures - 5D mkiii
Post by: serendipidy on June 11, 2013, 03:10:46 PM
My high noon  long exposure shots using a screw-in IR filter

Great pictures Shutter :)

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