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Title: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Dylan777 on December 31, 2012, 05:56:02 PM
I plan to take my 4yrs daughter to Mountain High in CA this Friday. This will be her 1st time touching and playing with snow. Our activities are:  build a snow man, snow tubing, and walking around the town with hot chocolate drinks.

I'm thinking about 5D III + 24-70 II with RS-7 strap for this trip.

 My concerns are:
1.  Will my 5D III and 24-70 II survive the cold and wet from the snow?
2. Will this combo be little too big for snow tubing?

I have Canon S100, but I doubt I would be able to capture her sliding in the tube down the lanes or building a snow man with her cousins.

Your thoughts and advices are greatly appreciated

Thanks
Dylan
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Kernuak on December 31, 2012, 07:36:02 PM
While I don't have the 24-70 MkII, my 7D survived without problems while lying in the snow when attached to my 300 f/2.8. Ole Liodden also did an article testing out a 7D getting splashed with snow. The 5D MkIII has the same level of weatherproofing as the 7D, so I wouldn't expect any problems, but I haven't been in that situation with mine as we don't tend to get a lot of snow here.
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: pengyifei on December 31, 2012, 07:41:50 PM
No problem for that combo! I took nice snow pics of my daughter with the 5DIII and 24-70 II!
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: digital paradise on December 31, 2012, 08:39:51 PM
I'm from Canada and have used my gear in -30 Celsius and colder. Secret is to keep your gear cold until you are done. If I come in for hot chocolate I put out gear into the camera bag (which is outside) and zip it up. When really cold I will wrap it up with my parka as well. If I can leave it outside I will.

When done for the day I follow the above procedure. Now I will wait several hours before I open the bag. You want to warm up your gear slowly. If you expose your gear quickly you get condensation on it. No problem on the outside, it is the inside. Over time this can lead to mold growth particularly with lenses. Of course these are extremes but something to be aware of.

Check this out.

http://www.petapixel.com/2012/12/20/frozen-camera-what-a-dslr-looks-like-when-shooting-in-a-25c-environment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PetaPixel+%28PetaPixel%29 (http://www.petapixel.com/2012/12/20/frozen-camera-what-a-dslr-looks-like-when-shooting-in-a-25c-environment/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PetaPixel+%28PetaPixel%29)
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: madspihl on December 31, 2012, 09:50:20 PM
I wouldn't worry about that at all. We have 7 months of winter and a month before and after of freezing-melting waves, and I shoot in all conditions. That body-lens combo is weather sealed.

Granted, there's hardly any humidity here, but I still have to consider bringing the camera out in the cold and then back inside on many days - but as long as I let the camera warm back up and dry out before I turn it on, I have never had problems no matter how cold it has been (as cold as -36 celsius).
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Meh on December 31, 2012, 11:41:12 PM
I bet you can bury it in the snow and it would still be fine  ;D

Too big or heavy for snow tubing?  Nonsense!

Have fun and post pics.
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Meh on December 31, 2012, 11:43:49 PM
Good points from @digital about keeping it cold... you definitely want to avoid as much as possible bringing it straight inside.  Putting it into a big zip lock bag works great too... but still put it in the camera bag so it warms up slowly.
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Hobby Shooter on January 01, 2013, 12:17:56 AM
I'm sure it will survive the cold. About getting wet, I walked and shot a 7 minute video in the jungle while it was raining, no probs at all for my 5D3 although the lens took some beating.
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: artsmalley on January 01, 2013, 01:45:50 AM
I just drove up there today with my three little ones. I took my 5D Mark III + 24mm-105mm F4 lens on RS7 strap and did not have a problem. We did some light sledding, they made snow angels, and built a very small snowman. Camera was fine however we did not do any tubing at the resort area to be clear. Weather wise I would not be too concerned for the camera if you are careful. I would worry some about the tubing runs and impact as some people get going pretty fast.
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: bjd on January 01, 2013, 01:02:23 PM
Somewhere the guy who did these timelapses shows the state of his Camera after a cold night. Admittedly its a 1Dx, but I guess the 5D3 would take the same punishment. At least I hope it would!

http://www.helvetiabynight.com/ (http://www.helvetiabynight.com/)

The videos are on vimeo.

Cheers

 
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: digital paradise on January 01, 2013, 01:13:08 PM
Good points from @digital about keeping it cold... you definitely want to avoid as much as possible bringing it straight inside.  Putting it into a big zip lock bag works great too... but still put it in the camera bag so it warms up slowly.

Zip lock bags do work well but I gave up them long ago. They are a pain when it is cold. Keeping it in the bag works well - less hassle. 
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: grenadilla on January 01, 2013, 01:40:25 PM
Bring spare batteries with you and keep them warm.  Inside your jacket or shirt pocket will work.  When the camera shows low battery it likely is not out of juice.  Just take it out of the camera and warm it up.  Once warm you should be able to get more shots out of it. 

I've shot -15C (-30 windchill) with a rebel without problem.  Just need to keep spare batteries at hand. 
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: pardus on January 01, 2013, 02:19:43 PM
Spent a day last week shooting a catalog for a goggle company up at a mountain. It was a little below freezing and absolutely dumped snow all day. I hadn't take my 5Diii out in these kind of conditions before and was a little concerned, I brought a rain cover but they are a hassle and took my chances. My 70-200mm 2.8L and 16-35mm 2.8L ii and body were absolutely soaked, at any second was waiting for something to fry but held strong. Make sure all your rubber covers are on tight too. I dried off the gear and used big freezer zip lock bags with the air pressed out to avoid condensation problems before the drive home as my heater was cranked in the truck.

Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Dylan777 on January 01, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
Thanks for the tips guys....I'll post some pictures when I get back.

Dylan
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: timmy_650 on January 01, 2013, 08:03:24 PM
I doubt you need it but those handwarmers put by extra batteries helps out a lot. Depending where you go sledding what out for tubers. Getting hit by one of those isnt good without a camera, other people will go faster and farther than you daughter.
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Dylan777 on January 01, 2013, 09:43:09 PM
I doubt you need it but those handwarmers put by extra batteries helps out a lot. Depending where you go sledding what out for tubers. Getting hit by one of those isnt good without a camera, other people will go faster and farther than you daughter.

I plan to go The North Pole Tubing Park: http://www.mthigh.com/mountain/north-pole-tubing-park (http://www.mthigh.com/mountain/north-pole-tubing-park)

I never done it before. However, the in-laws said they have 12 different lanes and only allow one tube to slide at the time; Anais Mountain High Snow Tubing 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz9ykrFtz4w#)

Thanks,
Dylan
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: RMC33 on January 01, 2013, 10:59:52 PM
Just spent a good portion of the day in Tahoe with my 5dIII and 24-70 MKI and no issues. The advice given about keeping the camera cold is spot on. Wish I had more edit time before I saw this! Took a few panno's of fog (I think what they call pogonip) hovering over the mountains. I even had this little snow monster with me all day:

Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: scottkinfw on January 01, 2013, 11:27:30 PM
That may be just fine, if you can get physically close.

How about a 70-200, or 24-105 to give you better reach?

You may also want to experiment with a flash, and grey card.

Have fun.

sek
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Jesse on January 02, 2013, 12:11:36 AM
Now everyone knows why IS is important!
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Dylan777 on January 02, 2013, 09:08:03 AM
Now everyone knows why IS is important!

With shutter speed 1/800 to 1/1000, I don't think "IS" going to help with photograph.



Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Axilrod on January 02, 2013, 10:17:52 AM
While I don't have the 24-70 MkII, my 7D survived without problems while lying in the snow when attached to my 300 f/2.8. Ole Liodden also did an article testing out a 7D getting splashed with snow. The 5D MkIII has the same level of weatherproofing as the 7D, so I wouldn't expect any problems, but I haven't been in that situation with mine as we don't tend to get a lot of snow here.

I saw a youtube video a while back where they put the 7D through a durability test.  All i remember is that they froze it in a solid block of ice and then lit it on fire and IT STILL TURNED ON.  Those things hold up pretty well I'd say.
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Dylan777 on January 06, 2013, 02:21:39 AM
Thanks for the tips guys....I'll post some pictures when I get back.

Dylan

As promised: http://albums.phanfare.com/isolated/0TKGEcfb/1/5903138 (http://albums.phanfare.com/isolated/0TKGEcfb/1/5903138)
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: spinworkxroy on January 06, 2013, 03:33:29 AM
Now everyone knows why IS is important!

With shutter speed 1/800 to 1/1000, I don't think "IS" going to help with photograph.

IS isn't going to help photographs at those speeds but IS really does help for video handheld...
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: M.ST on January 06, 2013, 04:07:36 AM
RE to: With shutter speed 1/800 to 1/1000, I don't think "IS" going to help with photograph.

I fully agree to this.
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: crasher8 on January 06, 2013, 07:53:09 AM
IS? We don't need no stinking IS
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Marsu42 on January 06, 2013, 07:58:06 AM
Now everyone knows why IS is important!
With shutter speed 1/800 to 1/1000, I don't think "IS" going to help with photograph.

... not to prevent camera shake, but IS also produces a steady viewfinder and this is also nice for picture composition and setting the af point exactly where it should be - probably won't matter much in the "standard" zoom range, but starting @~160mm+ it's nice to have.
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: Dylan777 on January 06, 2013, 10:58:47 AM
IS? We don't need no stinking IS

Nice shot crasher8, it so sharp and clear. AI servo or Single?

I had my camera set AI servo, the pictures weren't sharp as your :-[

Here is another set:
http://albums.phanfare.com/isolated/zI4RaRdU/1/5903066 (http://albums.phanfare.com/isolated/zI4RaRdU/1/5903066)
Title: Re: Snow tubing with 5D III + 24-70 II
Post by: crasher8 on January 06, 2013, 11:43:12 AM
Single shot
1/1250, f/8,  ISO 400, 70-200 f/4, 70mm, 5D3

Ok so it's not a 24-70 I don't have one and don't have the 70-200 any longer either!