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Title: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: Canon Rumors on August 03, 2011, 02:19:53 PM

Nothing Major

Another known source has spoken up and said a 5D Mark II replacement will be in quarter 1 in 2012. It was also said the line would include a “surprise”.


Lenses

Canon has apparently told some dealers in Europe that the 5D2/24-70 kit will no longer be available.


Signs of a replacement of the 24-70 is starting to show some more signs.


EF 8-15 f/4L

I have been playing with one for a day or two, trying to figure out how to effectively use a fisheye. I’d like a review up by the end of next week.


More soon, been sick.


cr


Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: bornshooter on August 03, 2011, 02:25:29 PM
digitalrev have put up a good review of the 8-15 fisheye  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IabjY5AmWOk   
i just purchased a 24-70 f2.8 new on A SPECIAL DEAL with £100 off did i make a mistake?
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: IWLP on August 03, 2011, 02:39:42 PM
digitalrev have put up a good review of the 8-15 fisheye  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IabjY5AmWOk   

I think you mean they posted a hey-we're-trying-to-be-the-Top-Gear-of-cameras-by-playing-about-with-new-gear video.


i just purchased a 24-70 f2.8 new on A SPECIAL DEAL with £100 off did i make a mistake?

Only if:

a) You will be forced to live under a bridge because you bought the lens rather than paying the rent or mortgage.
b) The lens, aware of these rumors, decides to do itself in, leaving shards of glass embedded in your body.
c) You're more worried about having the latest and greatest, rather than having solid tools.

;)

Really, it's a great lens, capable of great results.  It's a matter of whether you're more into carts or horses and how that directs your choices, to twist a colloquialism.
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: bornshooter on August 03, 2011, 02:42:31 PM
digitalrev have put up a good review of the 8-15 fisheye  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IabjY5AmWOk   

I think you mean they posted a hey-we're-trying-to-be-the-Top-Gear-of-cameras-by-playing-about-with-new-gear video.
think thats a bit harsh was a good review in my opinion and in many others too quality youtube channel

i just purchased a 24-70 f2.8 new on A SPECIAL DEAL with £100 off did i make a mistake?

Only if:

a) You will be forced to live under a bridge because you bought the lens rather than paying the rent or mortgage.
b) The lens, aware of these rumors, decides to do itself in, leaving shards of glass embedded in your body.
c) You're more worried about having the latest and greatest, rather than having solid tools.

;)

Really, it's a great lens, capable of great results.  It's a matter of whether you're more into carts or horses and how that directs your choices, to twist a colloquialism.
i think thats a bit harsh a quality review in my opinion and in many others great youtube channel and yes quite fun rather look at that real world testing than stupid charts
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: -zero- on August 03, 2011, 02:45:25 PM
 
i just purchased a 24-70 f2.8 new on A SPECIAL DEAL with £100 off did i make a mistake?

No, a 24-70 replacement has been rumored for ages and even if these rumors do turn out to be founded, the current 24-70 is still a great lense

also having bought it at a discounted price you will loose a lot less should you decide to sell it to upgrade.

You will hear it from most of the members here: dont hold off buying gear based on rumors (announced products are something else but even then... cough 8-15mm fisheye... cough... telephoto primes...)

Have fun taking pictures instead of waiting with nothing in your hands


edit: I guess I type too slow
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: IWLP on August 03, 2011, 02:50:33 PM
i think thats a bit harsh a quality review in my opinion and in many others great youtube channel and yes quite fun rather look at that real world testing than stupid charts

Yeah, it's fun, but I wouldn't call it a real "review." I wanted to see lens results, how it balances on a body and overall thoughts, not an 18-second clip of a dark bus terminal.

Not my cuppa, but it is interesting.
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: bornshooter on August 03, 2011, 02:53:19 PM
i think thats a bit harsh a quality review in my opinion and in many others great youtube channel and yes quite fun rather look at that real world testing than stupid charts

Yeah, it's fun, but I wouldn't call it a real "review." I wanted to see lens results, how it balances on a body and overall thoughts, not an 18-second clip of a dark bus terminal.

Not my cuppa, but it is interesting.
18 seconds of a 10 minute movie is hardly a big deal and they did give there overall thoughts did they not ?maybe you should watch it clearly again before abusing them and go play with some test charts.you seen the lens in action learned a lot about it seen images produced by it.and as far as balance with the body they only used 1 body so can't bash them for that I'm afraid
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: IWLP on August 03, 2011, 03:45:09 PM
18 seconds of a 10 minute movie is hardly a big deal and they did give there overall thoughts did they not ?maybe you should watch it clearly again before abusing them and go play with some test charts.you seen the lens in action learned a lot about it seen images produced by it.and as far as balance with the body they only used 1 body so can't bash them for that I'm afraid

Yes, my last post didn't truly convey my feelings - they did show some of what I wanted.  I saw the body on the 5D II, some of their photos and video results in circular and full-frame fisheye and their overall thoughts.  I just don't care for their style - no biggie, man. 

The more I see of this lens, the more I want it.  And the more I can hear my wife saying, "HOW much?"

D
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: J-Man on August 03, 2011, 07:09:32 PM
I assume the surprise is the 24-70 replacement, or a 24-105mkII.
I liked the promo video that canon did for the fish zoom.
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: bvukich on August 03, 2011, 08:32:33 PM
I assume the surprise is the 24-70 replacement, or a 24-105mkII.

Hopefully both  ;D
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: NXT1000 on August 03, 2011, 10:58:34 PM
what surprise? only one i can think of is internal flash or internal video light?
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: Haydn1971 on August 04, 2011, 12:49:33 AM
The surprise is that the 5DIII, will also feature a built in pop up water pistol, custom comedy shutter sounds and come in a range of polka dot paint job finishes !  I heard it will also be 12mpx to appeal to the Nikon fanboys, feature no weather sealing to attract the Sony snappers and have a 18x13.5mm sensor to capture some of the massive market lead from Panasonic !

It's true !  I read it all on an Internet forum !!!
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: macfly on August 04, 2011, 01:12:20 AM
Now that's funny!! :-)
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: d3smo on August 04, 2011, 06:44:45 AM
Is it thinkable to wait for a 24-70 2.8L IS, or maybe a 22-70 2.8L IS, as a replacement for the 24-70 2.8L ?
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: Edwin Herdman on August 04, 2011, 06:54:03 AM
The surprise is that the 5DIII, will also feature a built in pop up water pistol, custom comedy shutter sounds and come in a range of polka dot paint job finishes !  I heard it will also be 12mpx to appeal to the Nikon fanboys, feature no weather sealing to attract the Sony snappers and have a 18x13.5mm sensor to capture some of the massive market lead from Panasonic !

It's true !  I read it all on an Internet forum !!!
Nice specs!  Too bad the Sony sensor isn't enough to bring the Sony and Nikon fans these days ;D
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: neuroanatomist on August 04, 2011, 09:57:02 AM
Is it thinkable to wait for a 24-70 2.8L IS, or maybe a 22-70 2.8L IS, as a replacement for the 24-70 2.8L ?

Sure, it's thinkable.  Lots of things are thinkable, like waiting for pigs to fly or hell to freeze over.  As stated above, a replacement for the 24-70mm has been rumored for a long time.  If you don't need the lens now, you can wait.  If you need it, buy what's available.  Given recent history, even if Canon annonuces the lens tomorrow, you might still have to wait a year to actually get one.
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: d3smo on August 04, 2011, 10:02:44 AM
Thanks a lot for this very helpfull answer
I'm totaly aware that my question do not have an exact answer, but by posting on "Canon Rumors", i was beliving we can talk about Canon rumors without this kind of trolling
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: Redreflex on August 04, 2011, 10:11:01 AM
I'm totaly aware that my question do not have an exact answer, but by posting on "Canon Rumors", i was beliving we can talk about Canon rumors without this kind of trolling

Gotta have thick skin on here!
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: neuroanatomist on August 04, 2011, 10:12:45 AM
My point is that you can certainly wait, and for some it makes sense to wait.  But be aware that you might have a LONG wait.  Regarding the 22-70mm range, the idea seems plausible given that the predecessor to the current lens was a 28-70mm f/2.8L.  But, a while back Canon patented a 24-70mm f/2.8L design (which would thus be a Mk II version) - it did not include IS.  So, a straight 24-70mm f/2.8L II is most likely.  Lots of folks are hoping for an IS version of the lens, of course.
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: d3smo on August 04, 2011, 10:18:11 AM
Real thanks now !
And i could replace my answer in context, i do not wait for this lens so urgently, i actually use a 15-85 IS as trans-standard lens ans i'm quite happy using it. But in order to upgrade this lens, i really think about a 24-70. Especially because i have a 10-22, and a 70-200 2.8L, it could be a great solution to full fill all ranges.
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: neuroanatomist on August 04, 2011, 11:24:09 AM
Real thanks now !
And i could replace my answer in context, i do not wait for this lens so urgently, i actually use a 15-85 IS as trans-standard lens ans i'm quite happy using it. But in order to upgrade this lens, i really think about a 24-70. Especially because i have a 10-22, and a 70-200 2.8L, it could be a great solution to full fill all ranges.

I'd stick with the 15-85mm, most likely.  On APS-C, that lens outperforms the current 24-70mm f/2.8L (with the exception of vignetting).  A new 24-70mm would have to be a significant optical upgrade and add IS for it to be worthwhile switching from the 15-85mm (unless you go FF).
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: d3smo on August 04, 2011, 11:36:19 AM
I had the chance to test the actual 24-70 on my 7D, and you're partially right, i wasn't outstand by it. But what a sharpness, the L serie is so impressive on that point.
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: Mark D5 TEAM II on August 04, 2011, 10:39:43 PM
"The line would include a 'surprise'". So I assume it's a new feature and not a new lens to go with a new body. I hope that "surprise" is not the 3rd use of that awesome 9-pt AF module... ;P
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: neuroanatomist on August 05, 2011, 08:00:03 AM
"The line would include a 'surprise'". So I assume it's a new feature and not a new lens to go with a new body.

Maybe the surprise will be the elimination of the Direct Print button...   ::)
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: d3smo on August 05, 2011, 08:03:45 AM
A GPS chip could be great
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: TexPhoto on August 05, 2011, 09:52:38 AM
I am waiting for the UPS man to deliver my 8-15 this morning.  I have always loved fisheye, but this will be my first "circular" fisheye.

What I will spend the weekend doing is seeing if the Full Frame 15mm image produced is better than the Sigma 15mm fisheye I already have.  It does of course have the advantage of the zoom, and also the ability to still be a fisheye on a crop camera (I have a 5DII and a 7D), but to me 95% of the shooting with this lens will be 15mm on a FF camera, and that is where I need image quality. 

To date I have not seen anyone compare it to the existing Canon 15mm or the Sigma 15mm.  You can actually buy Sigmas 15mm and 8mm for less than the 8-15, so the 8-15 had better perform.

I love (mostly) DigitalRev, and would call it something between a review and entertainment.
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: ions on August 05, 2011, 10:24:58 AM
Real thanks now !
And i could replace my answer in context, i do not wait for this lens so urgently, i actually use a 15-85 IS as trans-standard lens ans i'm quite happy using it. But in order to upgrade this lens, i really think about a 24-70. Especially because i have a 10-22, and a 70-200 2.8L, it could be a great solution to full fill all ranges.

That combination works excellently. The 24-70 is a fantastic lens on crop or not.
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: kubelik on August 05, 2011, 10:46:30 AM
"The line would include a 'surprise'". So I assume it's a new feature and not a new lens to go with a new body. I hope that "surprise" is not the 3rd use of that awesome 9-pt AF module... ;P

please don't put dirty thoughts into canon's head ...

I know there are those out there who desperately want GPS tagging ... but I really hope that's not a surprise.  I also hope the surprise isn't "in-camera filters" ...
Title: Re: 5D Mark III & Lenses
Post by: wellfedCanuck on August 07, 2011, 07:21:52 AM
We're starting to see some heavy discounting at Futureshop and Henry's. The 5D2 was $3600 with a 24-105 IS USM L, went down to $3400 last week and is now at $3000:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/category/cameras/22553.aspx?path=089f4b3c9e8c5cf871a5c8266730edecen01&Page=1&PageSize=15&Sort=PriceHtoL (http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/category/cameras/22553.aspx?path=089f4b3c9e8c5cf871a5c8266730edecen01&Page=1&PageSize=15&Sort=PriceHtoL)

Same package at Henry's:
http://www.henrys.com/Categories/61-Digital-SLR-Cameras.aspx (http://www.henrys.com/Categories/61-Digital-SLR-Cameras.aspx)