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Title: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: Canon Rumors on April 24, 2013, 07:22:46 PM

Limited Stock

B&H has limited stock of the Zeiss 135mm f/2 APO Sonnar T* for Canon in stock and ready to ship.


Buy the Zeiss 135 f/2 APO Sonnar T* $2122


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Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: eml58 on April 24, 2013, 07:31:45 PM
Ok, I'll start the ball rolling.

I own the Canon 135f/2, I admit up front I have never owned a Zeiss Lens, but I've heard/read great things about them, but, the Canon 135f/2 is just a superb Lens, would the Zeiss be any better do you think ?? I understand the Zeiss lenses are Manual Focus, and for me although not a Killer, I have the 17 24 TSE Canons, it does make life a little more difficult, I sold my Leica M9 for this reason, lovely camera but the Manual Focus became an issue for me (Age Factor). Si I'm really interested to hear opinions on the Zeiss versus the Canon.
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: Dylan777 on April 24, 2013, 07:44:48 PM
Would be nice if this has AF. I love my 35mm f2 Zeiss on my RX1 - solid & sharp.

Will wait for rumor Sigma Art 135mm f1.8 OS ;D
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: eml58 on April 24, 2013, 07:51:00 PM
Would be nice if this has AF. I love my 35mm f2 Zeiss on my RX1 - solid & sharp.

Will wait for rumor Sigma Art 135mm f1.8 OS ;D

Hi Dylan777, but I think (not sure) the Sigma Art 135 f/1.8 is designed for APSC ?? I use FF (Except I do still have a 1DMK IV), so may not be of much use on FF, but I do own the Sigma Art 35f/1.4 and I find that a very good Lens.
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: brad-man on April 24, 2013, 07:57:43 PM
Would be nice if this has AF. I love my 35mm f2 Zeiss on my RX1 - solid & sharp.

Will wait for rumor Sigma Art 135mm f1.8 OS ;D

Hi Dylan777, but I think (not sure) the Sigma Art 135 f/1.8 is designed for APSC ?? I use FF (Except I do still have a 1DMK IV), so may not be of much use on FF, but I do own the Sigma Art 35f/1.4 and I find that a very good Lens.

In Sigma Langua DC=APSC, DG=FF so the party is on!
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: TrumpetPower! on April 24, 2013, 08:55:39 PM
Would be nice if this has AF. I love my 35mm f2 Zeiss on my RX1 - solid & sharp.

Will wait for rumor Sigma Art 135mm f1.8 OS ;D

Hi Dylan777, but I think (not sure) the Sigma Art 135 f/1.8 is designed for APSC ?? I use FF (Except I do still have a 1DMK IV), so may not be of much use on FF, but I do own the Sigma Art 35f/1.4 and I find that a very good Lens.

In Sigma Langua DC=APSC, DG=FF so the party is on!

...except, of course, that the Sigma lens is only a rumor, with no official announcement from Sigma.

(Which, incidentally, is exactly how Canon should have handled the 200-400 but didn't....)

Cheers,

b&
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: drjlo on April 24, 2013, 08:57:01 PM
Ok, I'll start the ball rolling.

I own the Canon 135f/2, I admit up front I have never owned a Zeiss Lens, but I've heard/read great things about them, but, the Canon 135f/2 is just a superb Lens, would the Zeiss be any better do you think ?? I understand the Zeiss lenses are Manual Focus, and for me although not a Killer, I have the 17 24 TSE Canons, it does make life a little more difficult, I sold my Leica M9 for this reason, lovely camera but the Manual Focus became an issue for me (Age Factor). Si I'm really interested to hear opinions on the Zeiss versus the Canon.

I use Canon 135L as well as 24 TSE II and have owned MF Zeiss.  Manual-focusing a wide angle is WORLDS easier than 135mm, so if MF is already an issue with Leica, I would stick with Canon 135L, which as we all know is a superb lens.  Who knows, from preliminary reports, the Zeiss 135 may have less CA and sharper wide open, but do we really need sharper than 135L?  Zeiss also costs double the current 135L street price and is heavier. 
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: eml58 on April 24, 2013, 08:58:29 PM
Would be nice if this has AF. I love my 35mm f2 Zeiss on my RX1 - solid & sharp.

Will wait for rumor Sigma Art 135mm f1.8 OS ;D

Hi Dylan777, but I think (not sure) the Sigma Art 135 f/1.8 is designed for APSC ?? I use FF (Except I do still have a 1DMK IV), so may not be of much use on FF, but I do own the Sigma Art 35f/1.4 and I find that a very good Lens.

In Sigma Langua DC=APSC, DG=FF so the party is on!

...except, of course, that the Sigma lens is only a rumor, with no official announcement from Sigma.

(Which, incidentally, is exactly how Canon should have handled the 200-400 but didn't....)

Cheers,

b&

Spot on, about the 200-400
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: brad-man on April 24, 2013, 09:15:16 PM
Would be nice if this has AF. I love my 35mm f2 Zeiss on my RX1 - solid & sharp.

Will wait for rumor Sigma Art 135mm f1.8 OS ;D

Hi Dylan777, but I think (not sure) the Sigma Art 135 f/1.8 is designed for APSC ?? I use FF (Except I do still have a 1DMK IV), so may not be of much use on FF, but I do own the Sigma Art 35f/1.4 and I find that a very good Lens.

In Sigma Langua DC=APSC, DG=FF so the party is on!

...except, of course, that the Sigma lens is only a rumor, with no official announcement from Sigma.

(Which, incidentally, is exactly how Canon should have handled the 200-400 but didn't....)

Cheers,

b&

No No No. This is CANON Rumors. Most things said here about Canon are suspect. But things said about Sigma have to be true!
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: thien135 on April 25, 2013, 12:16:48 AM
Too expensive. Pass. I rather use 2k to hire model every week
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: RGomezPhotos on April 25, 2013, 01:44:44 AM
Camera porn! I love Zeiss!
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: bholliman on April 25, 2013, 03:26:57 AM
I use Canon 135L as well as 24 TSE II and have owned MF Zeiss.  Manual-focusing a wide angle is WORLDS easier than 135mm, so if MF is already an issue with Leica, I would stick with Canon 135L, which as we all know is a superb lens.  Who knows, from preliminary reports, the Zeiss 135 may have less CA and sharper wide open, but do we really need sharper than 135L?  Zeiss also costs double the current 135L street price and is heavier.

+1

At wide aperatures and portrait ranges the DOF with a 135mm are razor thin.  Manual focus would be a difficult and time consuming.  I'm extremely happy with my Canon 135L, I can easily ignore this lens when/if it does go into production.
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: Blackout on April 25, 2013, 05:15:04 AM
Manual focus is NOT difficult with the Zeiss - as long as the subject is not moving of course - even on distant subjects, because it is amazingly clear wide open. It pops in the viewfinder more than with any other lens I have ever used.

Lloyd Chambers has tested it against the 135L. Yes it is better corrected and sharper, especially at wider apertures. But it's only the beginning of the story. The Zeiss is a new design which will do justice to the future high MP sensors, likely more than the 135L is capable of.
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: Northstar on April 25, 2013, 06:28:33 AM
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/04/zeiss-ze-135mm-f2-vs-canon-135mm-f2l (http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/04/zeiss-ze-135mm-f2-vs-canon-135mm-f2l)

From Roger at lens rentals....

A short review of these two lenses.
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: infared on April 25, 2013, 07:33:05 AM

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In Sigma Langua DC=APSC, DG=FF so the party is on!
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...except, of course, that the Sigma lens is only a rumor, with no official announcement from Sigma.

(Which, incidentally, is exactly how Canon should have handled the 200-400 but didn't....)

Cheers,

b&
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Well...this IS a RUMOR site????
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: risc32 on April 25, 2013, 08:36:35 AM
I use Canon 135L as well as 24 TSE II and have owned MF Zeiss.  Manual-focusing a wide angle is WORLDS easier than 135mm, so if MF is already an issue with Leica, I would stick with Canon 135L, which as we all know is a superb lens.  Who knows, from preliminary reports, the Zeiss 135 may have less CA and sharper wide open, but do we really need sharper than 135L?  Zeiss also costs double the current 135L street price and is heavier.

+1

Photozone.de even mentioned how hard it was for them to focus the zeiss 100mm f2 makro. on all accounts a fine lens with near perfect performance, but hard to focus accurately.

At wide aperatures and portrait ranges the DOF with a 135mm are razor thin.  Manual focus would be a difficult and time consuming.  I'm extremely happy with my Canon 135L, I can easily ignore this lens when/if it does go into production.
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: Artifex on April 25, 2013, 10:13:07 AM
I use Canon 135L as well as 24 TSE II and have owned MF Zeiss.  Manual-focusing a wide angle is WORLDS easier than 135mm, so if MF is already an issue with Leica, I would stick with Canon 135L, which as we all know is a superb lens.  Who knows, from preliminary reports, the Zeiss 135 may have less CA and sharper wide open, but do we really need sharper than 135L?  Zeiss also costs double the current 135L street price and is heavier.

+1

Photozone.de even mentioned how hard it was for them to focus the zeiss 100mm f2 makro. on all accounts a fine lens with near perfect performance, but hard to focus accurately.

At wide aperatures and portrait ranges the DOF with a 135mm are razor thin.  Manual focus would be a difficult and time consuming.  I'm extremely happy with my Canon 135L, I can easily ignore this lens when/if it does go into production.

I guess it is a matter of personal preference. I personally find manual focusing far more precise than AF. Moreover, according to B&H, the Zeiss 135mm has a 268° focus ring. I agree, however, that this is really not a glass that is going to fit everyone!
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: Axilrod on April 25, 2013, 10:49:38 AM
Zeiss is sharper, as expected.  And for the person asking whether it would really be worth the difference since the 135L is so great, I'll tell you this:  I loved my 100L Macro, but I really, really, really love my ZE100 (even though it was 2x the price and doesn't have AF or IS).

I'd love to replace my 14LII with the ZE 15, but $3k for 1 UWA prime just seems silly to me.  Might get the ZE 135 eventually, but I'm happy with my 135L and dont use the focal length too much anyways. 
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: Axilrod on April 25, 2013, 10:50:46 AM
+1

At wide aperatures and portrait ranges the DOF with a 135mm are razor thin.  Manual focus would be a difficult and time consuming.  I'm extremely happy with my Canon 135L, I can easily ignore this lens when/if it does go into production.

Have you ever shot extensively with Zeiss lenses?  The throw is so much longer and it has AF confirmation, it's far easier to shoot in manual mode on one of them than it is a Canon lens.
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: RGomezPhotos on April 25, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
At the beginning of my journey/career I too thought "But it's manual focus..."..  Then I actually tried it... 

For events and action, you really should go AF.   For everything else, MF works just fine...  And Zeiss rules is AWESOME in that world!

This lens is on my list for sure....  Someday..   ;)
Title: Re: Zeiss 135mm f/2 Apo Sonnar T* ZE in Stock at B&H
Post by: tron on April 25, 2013, 07:32:56 PM
I have Zeiss Distagon 21mm 2.8 ZE and I love it!

But I also have Canon EF135mm 2L and I love it too. AF is very important at 135mm at least for me. Also, since tt is difficult (although not impossible of course) to improve on this lens as far as IQ is concerned and even if Zeiss prove a little better it won't matter.

So it is Canon's EF135mm 2L for me period. YMMV though...