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Title: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: JRS on April 25, 2013, 03:22:44 PM
First time using reflectors and flash off the camera...

what do you think? what can I do to improve my pictures?


1
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74314625/carol/IMG_0355.jpg)

2
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74314625/carol/IMG_0358.jpg)

3
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74314625/carol/IMG_0359.jpg)

4
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74314625/carol/IMG_0361.jpg)

5
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74314625/carol/IMG_0387.jpg)

6
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74314625/carol/IMG_0405.jpg)

7
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74314625/carol/IMG_0418.jpg)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: Harry Muff on April 25, 2013, 04:00:43 PM
Look fine to me. Try to encourage your model take note of where the light is coming from and to use it to light her. A couple of them also have a bit too much space above her, causing her to appear a little lost in the image. A simple crop will do the trick nicely.


Just keep going, you're doing great.
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: privatebydesign on April 25, 2013, 04:12:10 PM
Superb for a first try.

The one thing that jumps out at me is you are to low, images of women generally look much more appealing if you are looking down on them to a degree, not always, but in this instance I think it would have helped a lot. Other than that, watch the shadow of the glasses rim on her face, but they are very good.
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: dstppy on April 25, 2013, 04:30:37 PM
She's staring at the camera in all of them.  I prefer candids and the fourth wall is very important to me.

If you're going to do that, you're going to need her to convey some emotion . . .

Shoot raw (if you're not already).

Bump the shadows and take down the highlights (especially #7)
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: Drizzt321 on April 25, 2013, 04:33:52 PM
I'll put in another looks pretty good. I'd say you used your reflector(s) well, although I think the other 2 posters have some good comments. While the model is pretty, there's just something in the composition, or the way she's holding herself, or something so that the images generally aren't grabbing me, even though they otherwise are reasonably good. Sorry I can't zero in on it a bit more for you.
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: 2n10 on April 25, 2013, 04:54:09 PM
They look good for a first time.  You have received some great suggestions to use.
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: pdirestajr on April 25, 2013, 05:25:28 PM
Was the off camera flash below the model? I think since these seem to be going for a natural look you need to balance the ambient light with the off camera flash and the reflector better- Ie: A lot of the shadows on her face (especially shadows cast by nose) are going UP! This just looks odd and isn't flattering on an otherwise beautiful face.

I'd suggest raising the light source higher so the shadows fall more naturally.
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: Menace on April 25, 2013, 05:31:10 PM
Well done for your first attempt :)
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: Drizzt321 on April 25, 2013, 07:00:53 PM
Was the off camera flash below the model? I think since these seem to be going for a natural look you need to balance the ambient light with the off camera flash and the reflector better- Ie: A lot of the shadows on her face (especially shadows cast by nose) are going UP! This just looks odd and isn't flattering on an otherwise beautiful face.

I'd suggest raising the light source higher so the shadows fall more naturally.

OP was using a reflector, not a flash. Although you're point about being careful about the shadows on the face is a good one, and just as relevant with any lighting setup.
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: verysimplejason on April 25, 2013, 07:28:55 PM
Just a novice opinion, you may want to experiment on different angles.  Maybe one shot from the top of the head or from below, sideways, back, sitting pose or doing some actions like walking, jumping, or anything to make it look more dynamic.  You can also think of including something of interest in the background (not just bokeh) though you must make sure that it doesn't overpower the main subject.  You can also shoot at a different time of the day, probably noon or night or early morning.  This will give different lighting/mood to your subject.  Try also having some backlight (maybe a flash or the sun).  Just be extra careful in your exposure.  You can also experiment on flares.  Flares caused by the sun sometimes has a distinct effect on your subject.   
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: pdirestajr on April 25, 2013, 09:23:07 PM
Was the off camera flash below the model? I think since these seem to be going for a natural look you need to balance the ambient light with the off camera flash and the reflector better- Ie: A lot of the shadows on her face (especially shadows cast by nose) are going UP! This just looks odd and isn't flattering on an otherwise beautiful face.

I'd suggest raising the light source higher so the shadows fall more naturally.

OP was using a reflector, not a flash. Although you're point about being careful about the shadows on the face is a good one, and just as relevant with any lighting setup.

But the thread starts off saying: "First time using reflectors and flash off the camera..." ;)
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: JRS on April 26, 2013, 09:43:48 AM
thanks for all advices, I greatly appreciate!

I used two 42" reflectors for some shoots and a flash with shoot-through white umbrella for others..

I need to improve my composition now, it was more a "lightning experiment" as it was my first attempt.

Thank you again!  :)
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: robbymack on April 26, 2013, 10:22:27 AM
3 and 7 seem to me to be your strongest images. I'd have ditched the glasses entirely, they aren't really flattering to the model.  shooting with flash and glasses can be tricky trying to keep the reflection of the light source out of the photos. I think you did a reasonable job there. All in all I'd say you did pretty good. My only advice is when using flash outdoors I find it best to accentuate/fill the natural light rather than try to overpower it especially shooting in the golden hour like it seems you did. Now if this was mid day then maybe it's time to overpower the sun and create your own interesting light. Good luck and keep having fun with it.
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: sanj on April 26, 2013, 10:59:53 AM
Well done. Keep at it.
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: Harry Muff on April 26, 2013, 01:49:46 PM
I would say 7 is the weakest image. It's a picture of a tree with a girl in the corner. Always pay attention to the background and any other distracting things in the frame.
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: PhotographAdventure on June 17, 2013, 01:18:31 AM
I'm always trying to improve my client's poses, and that is one thing you can work on.  Get a physical book or find them online and print them out.  Bring them to the session and share them.  See what the client likes/dislikes.
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: JBeckwith on July 11, 2013, 11:59:00 PM
Overall the pictures look very nice.  The first thing I noticed is that they all appear to be too soft, possibly out of focus.  While I am no expert, I firmly believe that the eyes should be tack-sharp.  That would be my biggest focus (no pun intended), then concentrate on the shadows and filling them in.
Title: Re: Need advice, what can I do to improve?
Post by: scottkinfw on July 12, 2013, 02:17:58 AM
Look good too me.

I would suggest better use of space (crop), lose glasses as they make nose look too long, focus is off, and control flare.

Keep up the good work.

sek