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Gear Talk => Third Party Manufacturers => Topic started by: neuroanatomist on September 19, 2013, 11:12:51 AM

Title: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: neuroanatomist on September 19, 2013, 11:12:51 AM
New from Nikon is the Nikon 1 AW1 (press release (http://www.nikon.com/news/2013/0919_nikon1_01.htm)), a mirrorless interchangeable lens camera that's waterproof (down to 49 feet), shockproof (6.6 foot drop), and freezeproof (down to 14 °F).  The body uses their 14.2 MP CX-format (2.7x crop) CMOS sensor, which is the same size sensor used in the Sony RX-100.

To go with the new mirrorless body, there are two new lenses - an 11-27.5mm f/3.5-5.6 (30-74mm FFeq) and a 10mm f/2.8 (27mm FFeq), both of them waterproof/shockproof/freezeproof to the same specs as the AW1 body.

They've also announced development of a SB-N10 Underwater Speedlight to go with the system.

Supposed to be available next month, MSRP of $800 for the AW1 + 11-27.5 kit, $1000 for the AW1 + both lenses kit.

While not waterproof to sufficient depth for scuba diving, this system would be great for snorkeling, pool and beach use - no need for a bulky waterproof housing (but it's likely not buoyant, so plan on attaching a float). 

Will we see an EOS MW and waterproof EF-MW lenses (complete with blue ring) someday?  That would be pretty sweet...
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: Click on September 19, 2013, 11:24:22 AM
That's cool. 49 feet, this is not bad at all.

Thanks for sharing Neuro.
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: pato on September 19, 2013, 11:25:33 AM
Yeah this camera looks really nice on paper!
I just wonder if they will release a 40 meter dive case for it, for less then 600$. That would be even greater :)
I would need it for diving and 15 meters are just not enough :(

It's probably also a great camera for those "color festivals" where you would otherwise destroy your camera.
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: CANONisOK on September 19, 2013, 11:26:44 AM
Bravo, Nikon. It's great to see boundaries being pushed in the MILC marketplace. If I had this specific need (ecotourism, snorkeling, etc.), I'd be all over it.
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: Chosenbydestiny on September 19, 2013, 01:57:28 PM
I like the idea, I just don't like the price.
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: Eldar on September 19, 2013, 02:04:20 PM
If I go below 49 feet it´s because I´ve drowned ...
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: mackguyver on September 19, 2013, 02:05:31 PM
Back when I was into that world, the Nikonos was legendary, so it has some big shoes to fill, but no competition (GoPro's fisheye doesn't really count).  Technically these lenses are what they called "amphibious" because you can use them above water.  The Nikonos system also had underwater (only) lenses that were designed specifically for the difference in refraction, etc. and offered amazing quality.  I'll be interested to watch this to see if they develop those as well.
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: Hobby Shooter on September 19, 2013, 02:47:20 PM
What's its DR?
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: missitnoonan on September 19, 2013, 02:56:42 PM
Cool that Nikon is thinking along these lines, but I imagine it'll be a pretty niche product (though, if I was interested and new to the 1 system, why not). Pretty bulky for most water sports, still can't change lenses on the beach (even harder than a normal DSLR, keeping an o ring clean is even trickier than keeping dust off a sensor), and depth limits are too restrictive for diving. So, snorkelers looking for better picture quality.

I'm still waiting for a nice compact housing and port system for a mirrorless camera that doesn't break the bank. And said mirrorless camera needs a good wideangle and macro lens, and a flash for triggering strobes. That'd make am happy diver out of me.
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: Sporgon on September 19, 2013, 03:25:12 PM
Had to laugh at point number 2 under 'Primary Features':

Functionality suited to outdoor use as well as an elegant design that attracts attention.

Sanj had better not use one in Bangkok !  ;D
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: fotorex on September 19, 2013, 04:12:54 PM
What's its DR?

DR? hmm, DR = Diving Range ::)
down to 49 feet ;D

Frank
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: Don Haines on September 19, 2013, 06:22:29 PM
It would be nice to have a camera that you could use in the rain without worries....  I still use my Olympus E-510 in the rain..... very outdated, but sealed lenses and body...
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: 9VIII on September 19, 2013, 07:22:00 PM
I actually really like the idea just for being able to use a decent camera around water, and not worry about smashing it when camping (don't know where to put your camera? just toss it on the ground!).
If they were to push the price down I would just get one out of curiosity, I can think of a few environments where something like this would be useful for both the shock and water resistance.

Really though I just want a weather sealed pro-body EOS-M.
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: Drizzt321 on September 19, 2013, 07:29:52 PM
I actually really like the idea just for being able to use a decent camera around water, and not worry about smashing it when camping (don't know where to put your camera? just toss it on the ground!).
If they were to push the price down I would just get one out of curiosity, I can think of a few environments where something like this would be useful for both the shock and water resistance.

Really though I just want a weather sealed pro-body EOS-M.

I dunno about the "just toss it on the ground". Unless by toss you mean place on the ground off to the side where it won't get stepped on. Just because it's water resistant, doesn't mean it won't get damaged by a fall or other impact. In fact, an impact that does no visible damage is just as dangerous because it could have damaged a water seal.
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: neuroanatomist on September 19, 2013, 08:36:54 PM
I dunno about the "just toss it on the ground". Unless by toss you mean place on the ground off to the side where it won't get stepped on. Just because it's water resistant, doesn't mean it won't get damaged by a fall or other impact. In fact, an impact that does no visible damage is just as dangerous because it could have damaged a water seal.

Maybe you missed the fact that the AW1 is shockproof to 6.6 feet.
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: emag on September 19, 2013, 09:31:39 PM
Not to make light of a very interesting camera, but I'd just as soon get a couple Pentax WG-3's for that price.  I have a W90 that has been in pools, ocean and rain and has macro and time lapse features.  I've also had it 200 feet in the air suspended with a kite and strapped to my motorcycle for half a day.  It's always in my briefcase at work and slips into a pocket.  That said, it's interesting to see Nikon upping the mirrorless market.
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: dtaylor on September 19, 2013, 10:36:12 PM
Not to make light of a very interesting camera, but I'd just as soon get a couple Pentax WG-3's for that price.  I have a W90 that has been in pools, ocean and rain and has macro and time lapse features.  I've also had it 200 feet in the air suspended with a kite and strapped to my motorcycle for half a day.  It's always in my briefcase at work and slips into a pocket.  That said, it's interesting to see Nikon upping the mirrorless market.

Same here. The IQ of the Nikon 1 sensors isn't much better.

If they dropped the price and put the Sony RX100 sensor in it, then it would be interesting.
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: Mt Spokane Photography on September 19, 2013, 10:45:48 PM
The old 35mm film Nikonos is still sought after, I keep my eye out to snag one on craigslist.
 
It does seem a little strange that after Nikon announces that mirrorless sales are tanking and that they will concentrate on DSLR's, and perhaps some other new products, this pops up.   It sounds great, a little pricey, perhaps, but the price of a underwater enclosure is breath taking, so its probably a good deal. 
 
It does seem that Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde are busily at work over at Nikon, they need to get their story straight about their mirrorless line.
 
I have to congratulate Nikon for a good step, there is nothing like it!
Title: Nikon AW1 underwater mirrorless
Post by: nicku on September 20, 2013, 05:55:55 AM
Nikon announced the new Nikon AW1 underwater camera.

I KNOW that CR is maybe not the best place to post this topic... but maybe this new product from Nikon is a wake up call for Canon regarding the next generation of EOS M mirrorless cameras.

Key features:

- 1/16000 sec. shutter speed
- Video Full HD at 60 fps and VGA ( 640/480 ) at 400 fps.
- Water proof up to 15m ( 49 ft)
- 14MP resolution
-  ISO 160 - 6400

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-1-aw1/2 (http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-1-aw1/2)
Title: Re: Nikon AW1 underwater mirrorless
Post by: m on September 20, 2013, 06:50:07 AM
Finally a solution for the usual case when you're 15m deep and 1/8000 of a sec is too bright.
Title: Re: Nikon AW1 underwater mirrorless
Post by: mackguyver on September 20, 2013, 10:29:48 AM
Finally a solution for the usual case when you're 15m deep and 1/8000 of a sec is too bright.
ROTFL on that one!  For a second I thought you were serious, then I saw the specs!
Title: Re: Nikon announces waterproof, shockproof MILC
Post by: Hobby Shooter on September 20, 2013, 03:06:00 PM
What's its DR?

DR? hmm, DR = Diving Range ::)
down to 49 feet ;D

Frank
Best one in a long time  ;D
Title: Nikon 1 AW1
Post by: verysimplejason on October 29, 2013, 03:59:21 AM
With a small sensor and expensive price, I never really considered Nikon 1 as "legitimate" competitor against APS-C sized mirrorless cameras.  However, with this product innovation, I guess this made Nikon 1 at least reasonable for sports and adventure-crazed photographers who wants something more than a weather-sealed camera.  Will EOS-M follow through?

http://nikonrumors.com/2013/10/28/nikon-1-aw1-underwater-interchangeable-lens-camera-now-in-stock.aspx/ (http://nikonrumors.com/2013/10/28/nikon-1-aw1-underwater-interchangeable-lens-camera-now-in-stock.aspx/)

http://nikonrumors.com/2013/09/20/nikon-1-aw1-underwater-camera-additional-coverage.aspx/ (http://nikonrumors.com/2013/09/20/nikon-1-aw1-underwater-camera-additional-coverage.aspx/)