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Gear Talk => PowerShot => Topic started by: Canon Rumors on February 10, 2014, 11:12:42 AM

Title: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: Canon Rumors on February 10, 2014, 11:12:42 AM

Below is a list of additional specs for the PowerShot G1 X. It looks like Canon is really trying to create a market for this camera based on the spec sheet.


The new flagship of the PowerShot line is expected this week.


Specifications



More to come.


cr


Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: hgraf on February 10, 2014, 11:23:54 AM
NFC? Why? I guess so I can "bump" my phone/tablet up to the camera to transfer an image? Seems like something that could be covered by WiFi. Feature creep?
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: dadgummit on February 10, 2014, 11:29:15 AM
I wonder if Canon thinks this is the American substitute for the EOS M?  It seems like they may classify the M system as Asia only.
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: Chaitanya on February 10, 2014, 11:43:51 AM
any juicy details about the sensor? more importantly does it have dual pixel AF?
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: neuroanatomist on February 10, 2014, 11:49:50 AM
NFC? Why? I guess so I can "bump" my phone/tablet up to the camera to transfer an image? Seems like something that could be covered by WiFi. Feature creep?

They're clearly targeting the Pro market with this - the NFC would allow you to accept payment from clients on the spot.   :P
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: Albi86 on February 10, 2014, 11:56:44 AM
Is the EVF only for the G1X2?

Sounds like an interesting addition to DSLR as well...
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: rs on February 10, 2014, 12:09:08 PM
Is the EVF only for the G1X2?

Sounds like an interesting addition to DSLR as well...
Every hotshoe mounted EVF from other manufacturers I'm aware of so far* has used an extra port/connector for the data throughput, usually below the hotshoe. I doubt anything like this could be retrofitted to any existing products without the port/connector.

* someone is bound to prove me wrong on this  ::)
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: traveller on February 10, 2014, 12:34:05 PM
"It looks like Canon is really trying to create a market for this camera based on the spec sheet."

Unusual levels of sarcasm from CR...   ;)
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: Proffarm on February 10, 2014, 12:49:13 PM
Jeez...

Why do I even have my M, I wonder...

Fuji X-E2 here I come.
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: Dianoda on February 10, 2014, 12:54:12 PM
NFC? Why? I guess so I can "bump" my phone/tablet up to the camera to transfer an image? Seems like something that could be covered by WiFi. Feature creep?

NFC would be for faster/easier pairing between phone and camera, the data connection itself would still be wifi-based.
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: weixing on February 10, 2014, 12:55:59 PM
Hi,
    NFC = Near field communication??

    Hmm... If I remember correctly, Canon had a patent sometime ago on communicating the lens with the camera body wirelessly. Hmm... may be Canon are testing out the technology on this model?? May be the camera body will communicate with the lens and EVF wirelessly using NFC?? But NFC communication is quite slow right?? Just wonder??

    Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: dpackman on February 10, 2014, 01:03:16 PM
One thing I find irritating about lower end cameras is the viewfinder. It is often dark and covers only a small field of view. If an EVF were good enough to replace an optical version and the detector allowed for reasonable image quality in lower light, then this might be an interesting model indeed.
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: distant.star on February 10, 2014, 01:05:20 PM
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It's shaping us much as I expected.

Looks like it may be the one to replace my S95.

Looking forward to Wednesday.

Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: rs on February 10, 2014, 01:13:21 PM
Hi,
    NFC = Near field communication??

    Hmm... If I remember correctly, Canon had a patent sometime ago on communicating the lens with the camera body wirelessly. Hmm... may be Canon are testing out the technology on this model?? May be the camera body will communicate with the lens and EVF wirelessly using NFC?? But NFC communication is quite slow right?? Just wonder??

    Have a nice day.
NFC is commonly used as a protocol to initiate more capable communication channels such as WiFi. This particular camera is rumoured to have a built in lens, so no reason to replace hardwired connections with wireless. Also, what's the point of removing some of the electronic contacts on a lens mount? You can't remove them all without putting batteries in the lens, so what's the point? And what's the problem with electronic contacts within the mount in the first place?

NFC wouldn't have sufficient throughput for a viewfinder. EVF's in their current guise have many issues which make them inferior to OVF's, and lag is certainly high up that list. Any form of additional delay such as that introduced by even the fastest WiFi connection is a big problem. A physical connector is by far the best method. Besides, who wants to have a camera where is constantly says 'Connecting', and then needs lots of menu options and power cycles before you can finally grab the shot? I thought that was what the Sony QX100 was for  ;)
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: Lee Jay on February 10, 2014, 02:47:26 PM
What does "30 AF points" mean in the context of a mirrorless camera?

With an SLR, it's how many linear arrays are on the AF sensor (and their corresponding optics, of course), but if it's contrast-detect, you can define the area of detection anywhere, and if it's dual-pixel on-sensor PDAF, you've got millions of "AF points" which can be aggregated in a myriad of different ways.

So I'm back to what does "30 AF points" mean?
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: Dianoda on February 10, 2014, 03:22:34 PM
What does "30 AF points" mean in the context of a mirrorless camera?

With an SLR, it's how many linear arrays are on the AF sensor (and their corresponding optics, of course), but if it's contrast-detect, you can define the area of detection anywhere, and if it's dual-pixel on-sensor PDAF, you've got millions of "AF points" which can be aggregated in a myriad of different ways.

So I'm back to what does "30 AF points" mean?

I assume it means that there are a small number of on-sensor phase detect points, similar to what we saw in the EOS M/SL1/T5i sensors.
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: hoodlum on February 10, 2014, 04:26:42 PM
I wonder why the 'Dual Pixel' AF sensor technology from the 70d is not getting shared with this and other Canon compact models?
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: hgraf on February 10, 2014, 04:36:34 PM
NFC? Why? I guess so I can "bump" my phone/tablet up to the camera to transfer an image? Seems like something that could be covered by WiFi. Feature creep?

NFC would be for faster/easier pairing between phone and camera, the data connection itself would still be wifi-based.

True, but how many times a day would you do that? I think, for most people, they would use NFC for that reason once, and that was it. After all, once you're phone/tablet is paired, it's paired, no reason to do it again.

Again, sounds like a "feature" that's only there for advertising, unless they've come up with some other use?
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: shotshaper on February 10, 2014, 06:56:21 PM
I am kind of shocked, what is the point regarding those specs? Beside of the "okay" sensor those specs dont bring any speciality back to compact cameras. The apperture of the g15 & g16 is 1.8-2.8 combination with a digic5 and some decent iso usability you are able to create amazing images. Macro is the same, wifi as well (g15 with sd card)... Touchscreen? I dont have a touch screen on my 1dx and I know why. There areny many buttons to work with TV/AV to create something great. What do you think?

Point and shoot with f/2.8-3.9 ??? and with this size?
I use the g15 next to 5 Mark III and 1dx, I would love to upgrade from g15 to digic6 but in lag of having no 1.8 apperture??? Noooo....
Digic6, workable iso 1600; 24,25,26,27,28 - 130/140/150; hot shoe attached; tight and perfect feel of body; what else do you need?
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: PHYSICA on February 10, 2014, 09:23:21 PM
Lens: 24-150 f/2.8-3.9

what I concern is…

The Photo show the Lens " CANON ZOOM LENS 5X IS"….. That means it will have a 5x zoom lens with Image Stabilization…

but if 24-150 is true , it will be a 6.25x zoom lens….. 24-120mm Will be 5x…

By this reason , either the specification above or the photo is fake…
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: distant.star on February 10, 2014, 10:36:48 PM
Point and shoot with f/2.8-3.9 ??? and with this size?
I use the g15 next to 5 Mark III and 1dx, I would love to upgrade from g15 to digic6 but in lag of having no 1.8 apperture??? Noooo....
Digic6, workable iso 1600; 24,25,26,27,28 - 130/140/150; hot shoe attached; tight and perfect feel of body; what else do you need?

How about a sensor six times as big?
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: rs on February 11, 2014, 01:48:10 AM
More photos:

http://photorumors.com/2014/02/11/more-leaked-pictures-of-the-canon-powershot-g1-x-mark-ii-camera/#more-54870 (http://photorumors.com/2014/02/11/more-leaked-pictures-of-the-canon-powershot-g1-x-mark-ii-camera/#more-54870)

Much clearer, they match the previous image, but there's still something that doesn't look right about them.

If this is to be believed, the 12.5-62.5/2.0-3.9 lens hints at a 1.9x crop sensor, slightly smaller than the 1.85x crop from the mk I of this camera.
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: traveller on February 11, 2014, 05:47:26 AM
If the pictures on PR are correct, this is an incredibly disappointing downgrade in terms of user interface. One dial plus a mode dial? Seriously? That's entry level compact camera controls. I suppose that if the rings on the lens were programmable (assuming they are control rings), you could use them, but I still think that at least one of the "holy trinity" of settings would need to be allocated to that cheap and nasty rear control dial. It is also incredibly disappointing that this camera does not have a decent EVF and that the rear LCD takes up so much real estate for its screen size; let's hope it has the Sony/Olympus style hinge rather than the side mounted Panasonic/current Canon style.
Title: Re: Updated PowerShot G1 X II Specs
Post by: hachu21 on February 11, 2014, 10:19:20 AM
keep calm.... and breath. Final spec says "two control rings". So this one can be used in manual without digging in the menus. and it have a touch screen : the quickest way to choose focus area.