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Title: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: Canon Rumors on March 26, 2014, 09:18:07 AM

Recent reports about Canon releasing two camera bodies for NAB 2014 in Las Vegas next month look like they were recycled rumors from a long while back.


We’re told by various folks that Canon will make some announcements of non camera items that won’t be a big deal to most people. It looks like a quiet NAB from Canon for the second year in a row.


Again, that means no Cinema EOS camera and no DSLR style video camera. The firmware update for the EOS-1D C is still on the table, and I expect to see a cinema lens or two.


More to come..


cr


Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: neuroanatomist on March 26, 2014, 09:26:50 AM
More to come...

I'd hope so, because anything is more than the nothing we've seen so far...   :P
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: mkabi on March 26, 2014, 09:26:53 AM
They are definitely delivering on that "head turner," people will be turning their heads to other brands :D
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: Geophizz on March 26, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Canon seems to be asleep at the wheel. The advantages of the DSLR are starting to become liabilities, especially for those of us who shoot mixed stills/video or documentary style video. Sony is making huge strides in the mirrorless market, especially with their a7R full frame camera, and the DSCRX10 point and shoot. I've been shooting Canon for 25 years, but if I were to buy a camera today, I'd choose the Sonys over their Cannon counterparts.
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: neuroanatomist on March 26, 2014, 09:46:26 AM
Canon will be sure to highlight their Cinema CPS membership, bargain priced at a mere $1000 per year.
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: HurtinMinorKey on March 26, 2014, 09:49:40 AM
Sounds like someone got told to keep their mouth shut for one more day until Canon could get an announcement out there.

I was really expecting them to update the c300, or show up with a cheaper C-model DSLR.
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: Niki on March 26, 2014, 09:52:17 AM
Sounds like someone got told to keep their mouth shut for one more day until Canon could get an announcement out there.

I was really expecting them to update the c300, or show up with a cheaper C-model DSLR.

i do think Canon will have some major announcements…2014..especially in the fall
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: HurtinMinorKey on March 26, 2014, 10:06:40 AM

i do think Canon will have some major announcements…2014..especially in the fall

You're probably right. The c300 was released in November so it'll be 3 full years this fall.
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: Zv on March 26, 2014, 10:55:20 AM
I wasn't bothered about NAB or any video announcements but this is getting beyond a joke. Almost April now and nothing but rumors of nothing this year. And when it does finally come we all know deep down it will probably be a powershot or rebel!

Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: expatinasia on March 26, 2014, 11:00:21 AM
Canon will be sure to highlight their Cinema CPS membership, bargain priced at a mere $1000 per year.

What do you mean? Where I am in Asia it is free, but they do make checks to ensure you are a pro working photographer.
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: neuroanatomist on March 26, 2014, 11:37:09 AM
Canon will be sure to highlight their Cinema CPS membership, bargain priced at a mere $1000 per year.

What do you mean? Where I am in Asia it is free, but they do make checks to ensure you are a pro working photographer.

There's a free level (Silver) in the USA, too - and it's worth just about what you pay for it (you get an ID card and you can call the CPS hotline, woot).  The paid levels (Gold, $100;,Platinum, $300; Cinema, $1K) get you repair discounts (20-30%), faster repair turnaround (3 or 2 days), free shipping on repairs (one or both ways), loaners during repair, and free equipment evaluation loans.  To get CPS support for Cinema products, you need that membership level.

Canon USA doesn't seem to care if you're a pro photographer (their terms state you must be, but they don't verify anything).  They care that you own a sufficient amount of gear to qualify (eligible gear has point values, you need more points for higher levels), and that you pay the fee.
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: sanj on March 26, 2014, 11:57:09 AM
More to come...

I'd hope so, because anything is more than the nothing we've seen so far...   :P

Even you now Neuro? Even you?
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: neuroanatomist on March 26, 2014, 12:11:29 PM
More to come...

I'd hope so, because anything is more than the nothing we've seen so far...   :P

Even you now Neuro? Even you?

Oh yes.  I'm bitterly disappointed that Canon hasn't released the T6i and SL2 that I've so eagerly been awaiting...   A few >$20K Cinema EOS lenses and some consumer lenses refreshed with STM to round out 'The Year of the Lens' and I'll be a happy camper.

 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: Lightmaster on March 26, 2014, 12:48:10 PM
what if canon announces all the new stuff at photokina, at once?   :P

nah.... i hope that won´t be the case.

but one thing is sure, canon has "lost" some of my money in the past 18 month.
nothing new from canon that interested me meant the money burning a hole in my pocket was spend on third party stuff.

they could have sold me a new 100-400mm, 35mm L, 50mm and a 12-24mm easily.
now at least a new 100-400mm and 35mm L i will not buy so soon i guess.

and the new 50mm from sigma, if it delivers the performance promised, makes it unlikely i will buy a new canon 50mm.

Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: mackguyver on March 26, 2014, 01:05:47 PM
More to come...

I'd hope so, because anything is more than the nothing we've seen so far...   :P

Even you now Neuro? Even you?

Oh yes.  I'm bitterly disappointed that Canon hasn't released the T6i and SL2 that I've so eagerly been awaiting...   A few >$20K Cinema EOS lenses and some consumer lenses refreshed with STM to round out 'The Year of the Lens' and I'll be a happy camper.

 ::) ::) ::)
You mean the T5, G2 X, and new macro ring flash weren't enough to get you excited???  It made my year ;). 

I hereby re-name this the "Year of the LONG Wait Until Photokina" and it better be worth it!
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: bosshog7_2000 on March 26, 2014, 01:18:56 PM
I'm a fairly 'long-time' Canon guy...started shooting with a new Ellan II in the 90's.  I have bought numerous Canons: Ellan II, 20D, 5D, 1DSII, 5D2 plus numerous P&S's.  I still have my 5D2 as the 5D3 wasn't enough of an upgrade for me to spend the money.  The last two years I have also been shooting an XPro1 with the 35mm, 23mm and some Leica glass.

The sad truth is I find myself shooting less and less with my 5D2.  I wish Canon would come out with something new and groundbreaking to make me excited about the brand again.  Even their foray into mirrorless was a joke; coming out with the 'M' when they had the opportunity to produce something exciting along the lines of Fuji and/or Sony A7R.

Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: mackguyver on March 26, 2014, 01:29:31 PM
I'm a fairly 'long-time' Canon guy...started shooting with a new Ellan II in the 90's.  I have bought numerous Canons: Ellan II, 20D, 5D, 1DSII, 5D2 plus numerous P&S's.  I still have my 5D2 as the 5D3 wasn't enough of an upgrade for me to spend the money.  The last two years I have also been shooting an XPro1 with the 35mm, 23mm and some Leica glass.

The sad truth is I find myself shooting less and less with my 5D2.  I wish Canon would come out with something new and groundbreaking to make me excited about the brand again.  Even their foray into mirrorless was a joke; coming out with the 'M' when they had the opportunity to produce something exciting along the lines of Fuji and/or Sony A7R.
Have you tried the 5DIII?  I was in the same camp as you in thinking that it wasn't a big upgrade - but then I used one.  It's a totally different camera and is better in nearly every way.  I agree that they have been playing it pretty safe, though, and if the Fuji suits you well, then Canon's probably made you pretty unhappy as they haven't catered to the street shooter/traveler market in quite a while.
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: bosshog7_2000 on March 26, 2014, 01:33:03 PM
I'm a fairly 'long-time' Canon guy...started shooting with a new Ellan II in the 90's.  I have bought numerous Canons: Ellan II, 20D, 5D, 1DSII, 5D2 plus numerous P&S's.  I still have my 5D2 as the 5D3 wasn't enough of an upgrade for me to spend the money.  The last two years I have also been shooting an XPro1 with the 35mm, 23mm and some Leica glass.

The sad truth is I find myself shooting less and less with my 5D2.  I wish Canon would come out with something new and groundbreaking to make me excited about the brand again.  Even their foray into mirrorless was a joke; coming out with the 'M' when they had the opportunity to produce something exciting along the lines of Fuji and/or Sony A7R.
Have you tried the 5DIII?  I was in the same camp as you in thinking that it wasn't a big upgrade - but then I used one.  It's a totally different camera and is better in nearly every way.  I agree that they have been playing it pretty safe, though, and if the Fuji suits you well, then Canon's probably made you pretty unhappy as they haven't catered to the street shooter/traveler market in quite a while.

I forgot to mention I already owned the 7D too:)  Anyway, the one thing that DID appeal to me about the 5D3 is the user interface is much like the 7D which I actually really loved.  I only sold the 7D as I was never really happy with the image quality.  Anyway, I know the 5D3 is a great camera but as I said I just couldn't justify the money for a better user interface and improved AF.

In addition to street shooting (hence the Fuji) I enjoy landscape photography so I am hoping Canon will eventually release a counter to the D800E....and with an improved UWA option.
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: mackguyver on March 26, 2014, 01:54:13 PM
I'm a fairly 'long-time' Canon guy...started shooting with a new Ellan II in the 90's.  I have bought numerous Canons: Ellan II, 20D, 5D, 1DSII, 5D2 plus numerous P&S's.  I still have my 5D2 as the 5D3 wasn't enough of an upgrade for me to spend the money.  The last two years I have also been shooting an XPro1 with the 35mm, 23mm and some Leica glass.

The sad truth is I find myself shooting less and less with my 5D2.  I wish Canon would come out with something new and groundbreaking to make me excited about the brand again.  Even their foray into mirrorless was a joke; coming out with the 'M' when they had the opportunity to produce something exciting along the lines of Fuji and/or Sony A7R.
Have you tried the 5DIII?  I was in the same camp as you in thinking that it wasn't a big upgrade - but then I used one.  It's a totally different camera and is better in nearly every way.  I agree that they have been playing it pretty safe, though, and if the Fuji suits you well, then Canon's probably made you pretty unhappy as they haven't catered to the street shooter/traveler market in quite a while.

I forgot to mention I already owned the 7D too:)  Anyway, the one thing that DID appeal to me about the 5D3 is the user interface is much like the 7D which I actually really loved.  I only sold the 7D as I was never really happy with the image quality.  Anyway, I know the 5D3 is a great camera but as I said I just couldn't justify the money for a better user interface and improved AF.

In addition to street shooting (hence the Fuji) I enjoy landscape photography so I am hoping Canon will eventually release a counter to the D800E....and with an improved UWA option.
I guess that's what I'm getting at - the 5DIII is much better in many other ways as well - the built in level, silent shutter, better build quality are very nice, but the shadows are so much better, ISO 3200 if very useable, and the AF blows away the 5DII if you're shooting anything that moves.  I'm not trying to sell you one :) but I think you'd be surprised by the level and number of improvements if you shot with one for several days.  I had a 7D, too, and sold it not long after buying the 5DIII - the crop factor wasn't enough reason for me to keep it.  I was never happy with the 7D at ISO 1600 or above.
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: that1guyy on March 26, 2014, 01:58:49 PM
Yay more disappointment from Canon. Maybe I should lower my expectations that Canon doesn't release anything that appeals to me so I won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: sdsr on March 26, 2014, 04:07:01 PM
I'm a fairly 'long-time' Canon guy...started shooting with a new Ellan II in the 90's.  I have bought numerous Canons: Ellan II, 20D, 5D, 1DSII, 5D2 plus numerous P&S's.  I still have my 5D2 as the 5D3 wasn't enough of an upgrade for me to spend the money.  The last two years I have also been shooting an XPro1 with the 35mm, 23mm and some Leica glass.

The sad truth is I find myself shooting less and less with my 5D2.  I wish Canon would come out with something new and groundbreaking to make me excited about the brand again.  Even their foray into mirrorless was a joke; coming out with the 'M' when they had the opportunity to produce something exciting along the lines of Fuji and/or Sony A7R.

I understand your complaint, but one nice aspect of the A7R (unless you want it for sports/herons-catching-fish etc.) is how well it works with Canon lenses (others too, of course), even those for which the latest metabones adapter doesn't provide AF (I recently spent some time using mine with the 100L, using MF & the A7R's focus peaking, with - to my pleasant surprise - a high success rate).  Buying one may not make you excited about the Canon brand again, but it might make you excited about your Canon lenses again, especially given your remarks in a later post re an interest in landscape photography.   I've not done anything resembling a scientific comparison, but I'm pretty sure that the images my Canon lenses make with my A7R are even better than the images they make with my 6D & 5DIII.  Brand loyalty is all very well, but promiscuity is more fun.
Title: Re: Much Ado About Nothing at NAB 2014 From Canon
Post by: Tugela on March 26, 2014, 04:13:07 PM
Actually, they did introduce new high end cameras at NAB 2013. The G30, XA20 and XA25.

In NAB 2014 they have a workshop called "Canon Small Chip Sensor Workshop". The abstract for that session is "Discover how to create and deliver near instant video production in the field and in the studio with the XA20, XA25, and Vixia Mini X. Learn how to take advantage of their incredible image quality and superb Wi-Fi capabilities, and see what's new for 2014 within the Canon small chip sensor camera line". The bolded bit implies that they will be talking about 2014 cameras that have not been released yet. Granted, those will not be EOS cameras, but to say they will have nothing for NAB this year probably is not true.