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Title: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Crapking on May 04, 2016, 03:08:54 PM
Can't believe I get to start THIS thread...

Here is a direct comparison between 1Dx and 1Dx II with same camera and LR settings.  Good to know that LR CC recognized the .CR2 files immediately today !

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7387/26724537432_aca69ac0b5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GHyeUL)16DX1288.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GHyeUL) by NAVBPhotos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/pvc2012/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7089/26212814714_f1c5e5756b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FWkwzh)1D2X0003.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FWkwzh) by NAVBPhotos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/pvc2012/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Crapking on May 04, 2016, 03:13:16 PM
In the above comparison I was shooting Manual with the same settings 1/80, f8, ISO 5000, and used my typical default LR settings on the 1Dx file and 'copied/pasted' the same settings to the 1Dx II file. Didn't have my tripod at work, but tried (unsuccessfully) to frame the same shot. Not sure if exposure differences are the result of the newer metering, or LR CC's algorithims, but the sliders/settings were all the same. I'll do similar side-side c/w these bodies tomorrow at a volleyball match and post some 'action, high ISO shots' for those on the fence about upgrading.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Grant Atkinson on May 04, 2016, 05:04:35 PM
African wild dog shot with a (beta) 1DX Mark 2. This image is shot with the EF 500L f4 IS ii, shutter speed 1/1600sec at f5.0, iso 4000. Cropped to frame from 20mp to 15mp, converted and processed in ACR, and downsized for web to 2000 pixels on the long side. In processing I just used the Adjust Brush to add warmth, some clarity, some shadow lift and highlight downtone, to the animals body only. The background is untouched, and I would have been expecting to have noise show there with my other cameras...
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on May 04, 2016, 05:09:12 PM
African wild dog shot with a (beta) 1DX Mark 2. This image is shot with the EF 500L f4 IS ii, shutter speed 1/1600sec at f5.0, iso 4000. Cropped to frame from 20mp to 15mp, converted and processed in ACR, and downsized for web to 2000 pixels on the long side. In processing I just used the Adjust Brush to add warmth, some clarity, some shadow lift and highlight downtone, to the animals body only. The background is untouched, and I would have been expecting to have noise show there with my other cameras...


Very nice picture. I really like the result.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: falcnr on May 05, 2016, 06:36:32 AM
Can't believe I get to start THIS thread...

Here is a direct comparison between 1Dx and 1Dx II with same camera and LR settings.  Good to know that LR CC recognized the .CR2 files immediately today !

Thanks for sharing, noticeable differences and very sharp (as i'd expect). Anyone played with the fact it does more than centre focus at f8 ? Thats one of my main reasons for upgrading. Also how has the autofocus been improved upon, what did or could they do to improve it ? 

Cant wait to try mine in couple of weeks.

thanks
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mario on May 05, 2016, 08:27:00 AM
There already was a thread here:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=29749.0

Maybe the admin can merge both threads ?

Regards,

Mario
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Schultzie on June 05, 2016, 06:21:16 PM
Took this today at the Cavalcade of Planes in Bolingbrook, IL.  Next year I'll have to bring a longer lens, at times the 70-200 wasn't cutting it.

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/8/7444/27487175015_459b388e1e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HSWXuB)
Cavalcade of Planes - 2016 (https://flic.kr/p/HSWXuB) by Brian Schultz (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sauceyjack/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Khristo on June 14, 2016, 07:16:09 AM
Here in Sydney we are having the Vivid festival of light.  This involves lighting the city with all sorts of interesting lighting effects - the best part being the images projected on the sails of the Opera House. 

Canon Australia are a major sponsor and organise events, workshops etc - one of which is a helicopter flight over the city.  For this they provide a 1dx2 and 35mm L f1.4, with a gyro stabiliser mounted on it to cut the vibrations.  The helicopter doors are removed and you get to hang out the side at 1500 feet snapping away with the stabilised 1dx2. 

Cold and windy, but great fun!  I went on this on Saturday night and got some great shots of the city - sample attached. 

The flight was run by Sydney HeliTours who did a pretty good job - so if you're in Sydney and want to do something different....give them a call.

I wonder if Canon do this sort of thing in other markets?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Don Haines on June 14, 2016, 07:29:44 AM
Here in Sydney we are having the Vivid festival of light.  This involves lighting the city with all sorts of interesting lighting effects - the best part being the images projected on the sails of the Opera House. 

Canon Australia are a major sponsor and organise events, workshops etc - one of which is a helicopter flight over the city.  For this they provide a 1dx2 and 35mm L f1.4, with a gyro stabiliser mounted on it to cut the vibrations.  The helicopter doors are removed and you get to hang out the side at 1500 feet snapping away with the stabilised 1dx2. 

Cold and windy, but great fun!  I went on this on Saturday night and got some great shots of the city - sample attached. 

The flight was run by Sydney HeliTours who did a pretty good job - so if you're in Sydney and want to do something different....give them a call.

I wonder if Canon do this sort of thing in other markets?

Nice picture! Sounds like a fun time.......
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Schultzie on June 19, 2016, 05:13:14 PM
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7410/27660396172_63e8b69e4c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/J9fL7h)
Jump! (https://flic.kr/p/J9fL7h) by Brian Schultz (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sauceyjack/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on June 19, 2016, 05:28:24 PM
Here in Sydney we are having the Vivid festival of light.  This involves lighting the city with all sorts of interesting lighting effects - the best part being the images projected on the sails of the Opera House. 

Canon Australia are a major sponsor and organise events, workshops etc - one of which is a helicopter flight over the city.  For this they provide a 1dx2 and 35mm L f1.4, with a gyro stabiliser mounted on it to cut the vibrations.  The helicopter doors are removed and you get to hang out the side at 1500 feet snapping away with the stabilised 1dx2. 

Cold and windy, but great fun!  I went on this on Saturday night and got some great shots of the city - sample attached. 

The flight was run by Sydney HeliTours who did a pretty good job - so if you're in Sydney and want to do something different....give them a call.

I wonder if Canon do this sort of thing in other markets?


Beautiful shot, Khristo.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: trekbike on June 19, 2016, 06:52:28 PM
American White Pelican
Wisconsin River, Prairie du Sac, Wisconsin

1Dx Mark II, 400mm DOII, Extender 2x III.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on June 19, 2016, 06:54:24 PM
Great shot, trekbike.  Welcome to CR   :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Northstar on July 23, 2016, 05:54:28 AM
Can't believe I get to start THIS thread...

Here is a direct comparison between 1Dx and 1Dx II with same camera and LR settings.  Good to know that LR CC recognized the .CR2 files immediately today !

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7387/26724537432_aca69ac0b5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GHyeUL)16DX1288.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GHyeUL) by NAVBPhotos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/pvc2012/), on Flickr

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7089/26212814714_f1c5e5756b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FWkwzh)1D2X0003.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FWkwzh) by NAVBPhotos (https://www.flickr.com/photos/pvc2012/), on Flickr

My first thought is that they fixed the 1/2 stop underexposed issue with the 1dx.  Otherwise, the photos look similar to me.
Crapking, how is the AF in fast action compared to the 1dx?
North
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on July 23, 2016, 05:41:20 PM
Had a rather spectacular weather around my cabin today. Looks something in between Mordor and Genesis ...
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on July 24, 2016, 12:33:53 AM
Very striking Eldar!

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on July 24, 2016, 06:40:26 PM
Red-thighed St Mark's Fly, or Heather Fly, hatching in large numbers around our cabin. Hopefully they will create a feeding frenzy i our local river. Fly, rod and reel are ready :)

100mm f2.8L Macro IS, 1/400s, f/10, ISO1250
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on July 24, 2016, 06:43:47 PM
Very striking Eldar!

Jack
I normally hate over saturated, screaming colours and over contrasted images like this, but this scene was unlike anything I have seen. Thunder, lightning and hail in massive volumes followed.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: FEBS on July 28, 2016, 05:31:10 PM

My first thought is that they fixed the 1/2 stop underexposed issue with the 1dx.  Otherwise, the photos look similar to me.


Yesterday, I managed to exchange my 2pcs 1Dx against 1Dx mkII and some €. Today during the lunch, I tried  a few shots over here. As I normally use 1/3 to 2/3 stop of EC on the 1Dx, this seems to much on the 1Dx mkII. So from now on, I will start with 0 EC.

Just AFMA and testing those babies and customizing/preparing them for my visit to Costa Rica in September. I will show some photos afterwards here on CR.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Northstar on July 29, 2016, 06:10:40 AM

My first thought is that they fixed the 1/2 stop underexposed issue with the 1dx.  Otherwise, the photos look similar to me.


Yesterday, I managed to exchange my 2pcs 1Dx against 1Dx mkII and some €. Today during the lunch, I tried  a few shots over here. As I normally use 1/3 to 2/3 stop of EC on the 1Dx, this seems to much on the 1Dx mkII. So from now on, I will start with 0 EC.

Just AFMA and testing those babies and customizing/preparing them for my visit to Costa Rica in September. I will show some photos afterwards here on CR.

Looking forward to seeing some Costa Rica photos!
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: MJB on August 02, 2016, 03:11:29 AM
Great Camera, this picture shows the low light capabilities, hand held with a 70-200mm L IS II, at f/2.8 and 1/125s, Auto ISO set to 6400.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Flyingskiguy on September 29, 2016, 06:56:43 PM
Handheld at 1/60s, f/8, ISO 12800
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: auditom on September 30, 2016, 04:53:15 PM
Boreal Owl, 1DX II, EF 200 2.8L @ 2.8, ISO 10000. I love this combo  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: auditom on September 30, 2016, 05:01:39 PM
 Bald eagle, 1DX II, EF 200mm 2,8 with Extender 1.4 III @ f 8,0, ISO 800 :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on September 30, 2016, 05:29:02 PM
Boreal Owl, 1DX II, EF 200 2.8L @ 2.8, ISO 10000. I love this combo  ;)

Very nice picture, Tom.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Bufford.T.Justice on October 03, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
Here is a nice image I captured at an airshow, Canon 1Dx Mk2 EF500L + TCx2
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on October 03, 2016, 03:11:01 PM
Here is a nice image I captured at an airshow, Canon 1Dx Mk2 EF500L + TCx2

Pretty cool shot   8)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jopa on October 06, 2016, 09:02:02 AM
Here is a nice image I captured at an airshow, Canon 1Dx Mk2 EF500L + TCx2

Pretty cool shot   8)

Amazing shot indeed!!!
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on October 15, 2016, 08:17:15 AM
Pretty pathetic that I should be posting my first sample photo with the 1DX II that's not very good but that's exactly why.  I'd like to hear if it appears to be what I should expect for IQ given that it's ISO 12800.

400 DO II X2 III F8 1/800  ISO 12800  Neutral   Sharpness moved to 0 in DPP   AF AI servo spot focus point ended up mid wing.  Weather has not cooperated with me (6" of snow yesterday!!) for AFMA.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on October 15, 2016, 09:42:18 AM
Congrats for your new 1DX II, Jack   :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on October 17, 2016, 06:53:04 PM
Well, here is my first photo posting that isn't just an experiment.  Still too low light but at least I got my AFMA pretty close, I think.

400 DO II X2 III  1/1250  F8  ISO 8000

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on November 02, 2016, 05:18:26 AM
I'm picking up a 1Dx2 and 300 f2.8 (Mk1) on Friday.  ;D  Only on weekend rental, mind you, but at least I will see what all the fuss is about and decide if I go lens or body as my next step.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on November 02, 2016, 08:49:30 AM
I'm picking up a 1Dx2 and 300 f2.8 (Mk1) on Friday.  ;D  Only on weekend rental, mind you, but at least I will see what all the fuss is about and decide if I go lens or body as my next step.

Neither one of those will perform anything short of amazingly well so it's almost like you don't need to bother with the experiment. 

Of course you will benefit from knowing what features you like and how it might fit your needs and that's very valuable. 

Knowing how long it's taking me to really understand how to customize everything to optimize it for my style and maximum benefit, I'm not sure I could have evaluated the camera over a weekend.  It reminds me of the various reviewers who have criticized the camera for shortcomings that are not there if it is correctly programmed. 

You will have a blast and that's worth the price of admission!  Good luck.  :)

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on November 02, 2016, 09:58:57 AM
Thanks Jack. I can understand your comments.

The immediate idea is to check things like ISO performance with and without cropping and if there is an overriding preference for lens or camera first (I am a 'lens first' kind guy).
So its a trip down to the zoo and feel that AF lock on :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: tron on November 02, 2016, 12:03:28 PM
Thanks Jack. I can understand your comments.

The immediate idea is to check things like ISO performance with and without cropping and if there is an overriding preference for lens or camera first (I am a 'lens first' kind guy).
So its a trip down to the zoo and feel that AF lock on :)
Have fun and please let us know. Happy shooting  :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on November 02, 2016, 03:35:56 PM
Another dull day so here I am with ISO 12800 but that's what I'm living with and I'm dying to post something. :)   Flash is impractical at this distance with 800mm - F8  1/1250

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Ryananthony on November 02, 2016, 03:48:27 PM
I like that shot, Jack. 
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on November 03, 2016, 12:46:26 AM
I like that shot, Jack.

Thanks, I like it too but it was a disappointment when I realized how much noise I had to deal with.  I'll keep trying.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on November 03, 2016, 05:03:10 AM
Flash is impractical at this distance with 800mm - F8  1/1250

Jack

Have you heard of the Better Beamer (there are now alternatives) - it is a fresnel prism to focus the light for further throw.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/427602-REG/Visual_Echoes_FX3_FX3_Better_Beamer_for.html
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on November 05, 2016, 03:41:46 AM
Flash is impractical at this distance with 800mm - F8  1/1250

Jack

Have you heard of the Better Beamer (there are now alternatives) - it is a fresnel prism to focus the light for further throw.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/427602-REG/Visual_Echoes_FX3_FX3_Better_Beamer_for.html

Thanks for this.  Just checked for me to Alberta - $80.99 CAD, which is kind of expensive but if it really is a good product I'd probably go for it - anyone have this version?

Previous products I've just been on the fence since typically they were not available in Canada and we get dinged badly on import fees.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on November 06, 2016, 01:25:41 AM
Mikehit, I combined a 1DX II battery with the beamer and all total I end up getting the beamer for $37 USD including shipping (that's relative to my battery cost locally ($207 USD) which is ridiculously high).  So, I'll finally have what I've wanted for some time thanks to your heads-up!

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on November 12, 2016, 11:46:23 PM
Got my Better Beamer yesterday but no tests yet.  Boy that's an expensive little bit of plastic but it looks like it'll do the job well enough.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: tron on November 13, 2016, 05:46:29 AM
You can try Dxo Prime to deal with noise. OK 12800 is rather much but it is 1DxII. I had used my 7D2 at 6400 (remember flying flamingos?) and DxO prime improved things. It still is not a super photo but it's much better than before. 
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on November 13, 2016, 01:55:46 PM
tron, I only recently discovered how to do noise with colors using NIK and it allows for more selective noise reduction but I'm new to all these things so probably behind most folks.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Grant Atkinson on December 08, 2016, 10:00:50 AM
An African wild dog, subduing an impala, northern Botswana. Image with the EOS 1DX Mark 2. Shutter speed 1/1600sec at f6.3, iso 1600, lens EF 100-400 IS ii. Not necessarily the most aesthetically pleasing image but a dramatic scene instead.  While the dog was battling the impala, the rest of the pack had run in a different direction. With such clean image quality especially in the iso 1600 to iso 3200 range, the 1DX Mark 2 allows me to maintain a fast shutter speed in the case of more action, and stop down a bit to get both animals sharp..without any penalty for using the higher iso settings.  Cropped from 20mpix to 13 mpix, and raw image processed in LR and downsized to 1500 pixels wide for web
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: LordofTackle on December 08, 2016, 10:45:41 AM
An African wild dog, subduing an impala, northern Botswana. Image with the EOS 1DX Mark 2. Shutter speed 1/1600sec at f6.3, iso 1600, lens EF 100-400 IS ii. Not necessarily the most aesthetically pleasing image but a dramatic scene instead.  While the dog was battling the impala, the rest of the pack had run in a different direction. With such clean image quality especially in the iso 1600 to iso 3200 range, the 1DX Mark 2 allows me to maintain a fast shutter speed in the case of more action, and stop down a bit to get both animals sharp..without any penalty for using the higher iso settings.  Cropped from 20mpix to 13 mpix, and raw image processed in LR and downsized to 1500 pixels wide for web

Great Shot Grant. The Impala really Shows the expression "ok ok, i get it, you win, I'm dead"

Sebastian
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: auditom on December 08, 2016, 11:09:23 AM
Today i got my new 100-400 LII. This shot was taken with Extender 1.4 III @560mm, f8, 1/160s, 2500 ISO.
I'm totally exited about the IQ. What do you think?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on December 08, 2016, 11:12:52 AM
Nice shot, Auditom. That 100-400 is certainly a very impressive lens even with the 1.4x on it.

For me it was a close-run thing of having the 1Dx2 paired with my existing 100-400ii or getting the 400 Do for my 7D.

Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: tron on December 08, 2016, 11:27:23 AM
Nice shot, Auditom. That 100-400 is certainly a very impressive lens even with the 1.4x on it.

For me it was a close-run thing of having the 1Dx2 paired with my existing 100-400ii or getting the 400 Do for my 7D.
So instead of bying a present for your 100-400ii you bought a present for your 7D  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on December 08, 2016, 11:41:44 AM
Yup!  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on December 08, 2016, 12:34:37 PM
That cat is so pretty.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: auditom on December 08, 2016, 12:45:20 PM
Nice shot, Auditom. That 100-400 is certainly a very impressive lens even with the 1.4x on it.

For me it was a close-run thing of having the 1Dx2 paired with my existing 100-400ii or getting the 400 Do for my 7D.
I own a 7DII too and will give it a try with new lens next week. The 7D sensor is much more demanding for lenses.
Interesting times  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on December 08, 2016, 12:59:21 PM
That cat is so pretty.

+1  Nice shot, auditom   :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Grant Atkinson on December 08, 2016, 02:31:05 PM
An African wild dog, subduing an impala, northern Botswana. Image with the EOS 1DX Mark 2. Shutter speed 1/1600sec at f6.3, iso 1600, lens EF 100-400 IS ii. Not necessarily the most aesthetically pleasing image but a dramatic scene instead.  While the dog was battling the impala, the rest of the pack had run in a different direction. With such clean image quality especially in the iso 1600 to iso 3200 range, the 1DX Mark 2 allows me to maintain a fast shutter speed in the case of more action, and stop down a bit to get both animals sharp..without any penalty for using the higher iso settings.  Cropped from 20mpix to 13 mpix, and raw image processed in LR and downsized to 1500 pixels wide for web

Great Shot Grant. The Impala really Shows the expression "ok ok, i get it, you win, I'm dead"

Sebastian
Thanks Sebastian
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on December 09, 2016, 03:56:24 PM
Great image Grant! It is always a bit disturbing to watch these images from the sofa. However, being out in the bush and watch it happen in real life is something entirely different. I normally cheer for the dogs, or lions, or leopards or whatever predator, simply because they are so few and impalas and grant´s and all the others are there in abundance.

This is a large Ngorongoro male, resting after feasting on a cape buffalo. A few decades ago, the Ngorongoro lions were close to extinction. However, after some good nursing, today they count around 100. They have loads of prey to choose from and they all look very healthy.

PS! The thread I started for the 1DX-II seems to have been deleted. There are lots of good images on that thread, so I´d like to ask CR if he could merge these to threads into one.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: LordofTackle on December 09, 2016, 04:00:55 PM
Wow, amazing picture Eldar. so much expression.
And boy is it sharp. What lens did you use? The 200-400 or the 600?

-Sebastian
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on December 09, 2016, 04:12:01 PM
Wow, amazing picture Eldar. so much expression.
And boy is it sharp. What lens did you use? The 200-400 or the 600?

-Sebastian
Thanks Sebastian

This is shot with the 600 f/4.0L IS II + 1.4xIII extender, handheld. This is a combination I am very fond of, even though it is a bit heavy. However, since I want to be able to handhold it as long as possible (I´m not getting any younger) it motivates me to go to the gym, so I suppose it is a good thing :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 09, 2016, 04:13:22 PM
Wow, amazing picture Eldar. so much expression.
And boy is it sharp. What lens did you use? The 200-400 or the 600?

-Sebastian

Super!  Yes we need one thread and to get more shots in it (I'm no help).  I don't even get out of my house let a lone to Africa! :)

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on December 09, 2016, 05:58:40 PM
If I ever saw Scar from The Lion King, this must be him :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jopa on December 09, 2016, 06:20:25 PM
I got mine mostly to take my kids pics and not to miss precious moments :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 09, 2016, 06:47:04 PM
I got mine mostly to take my kids pics and not to miss precious moments :)

That is indeed a very special moment!  Love it.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: anchorage on December 09, 2016, 07:39:31 PM
A couple of recent shots:

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5800/31312911686_33b1aea9f3_c.jpg)
 (https://flic.kr/p/PH1RHG)A Warm Fire on a Rainy Winter Day (https://flic.kr/p/PH1RHG)

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5449/31115558002_079ec81ff8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PpznkY)
Orion's Belt and Sword (https://flic.kr/p/PpznkY)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5520/30541818344_669b8b14b1_c.jpg)
 (https://flic.kr/p/NwSNwU)Mule Deer Portrait (https://flic.kr/p/NwSNwU)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on December 09, 2016, 09:22:14 PM
Nice series, anchorage.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 09, 2016, 10:02:15 PM
Nice series, anchorage.

For sure, and that ember had me puzzled for a second - pretty cool, I mean hot.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jopa on December 09, 2016, 10:45:04 PM
I got mine mostly to take my kids pics and not to miss precious moments :)

That is indeed a very special moment!  Love it.

Jack

Thank you Jack!
How do you like your Better Beamer?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 09, 2016, 11:14:07 PM
I got mine mostly to take my kids pics and not to miss precious moments :)

That is indeed a very special moment!  Love it.

Jack

Thank you Jack!
How do you like your Better Beamer?

Let's see, what is the best excuse for not having used it, I can muster.  Honestly, the 1DX2 AF has me so engaged trying to understand it all that I haven't dared to mount my flash on the camera.  I know, it's not necessary to master it all but that's how I tend to be.  It also ties in with my chronic headaches that make me mentally less than I'd normally be in relating to all this.

Kind of pathetic isn't it! ;D  One day soon.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: winglet on December 10, 2016, 03:15:10 AM
Beautiful shots, anchorage.

The detail on the deer head is incredible! Lens, please?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: rnl on December 10, 2016, 06:55:47 AM
Tufted Titmouse. Eagles. 1dxmkii, Sigma 150-600 Sport
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on December 10, 2016, 07:49:54 AM
Nice pictures, Richard.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Grant Atkinson on December 10, 2016, 09:05:02 AM
Great image Grant! It is always a bit disturbing to watch these images from the sofa. However, being out in the bush and watch it happen in real life is something entirely different. I normally cheer for the dogs, or lions, or leopards or whatever predator, simply because they are so few and impalas and grant´s and all the others are there in abundance.

This is a large Ngorongoro male, resting after feasting on a cape buffalo. A few decades ago, the Ngorongoro lions were close to extinction. However, after some good nursing, today they count around 100. They have loads of prey to choose from and they all look very healthy.

PS! The thread I started for the 1DX-II seems to have been deleted. There are lots of good images on that thread, so I´d like to ask CR if he could merge these to threads into one.
Like the lion very much Eldar, and his clear, sharp eye!  Also appreciate you sharing the information on the lions of Ngorongoro.  I find that the 1DX Mark 2 and the 1DX are the two best Canon bodies to use when I am using any of the Canon EF teleconverters..
Also hope the original 1DX Mark 2 thread gets found again...think i had images in there too :-)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Grant Atkinson on December 10, 2016, 09:08:35 AM
A couple of recent shots:

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5800/31312911686_33b1aea9f3_c.jpg)
 (https://flic.kr/p/PH1RHG)A Warm Fire on a Rainy Winter Day (https://flic.kr/p/PH1RHG)

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/6/5449/31115558002_079ec81ff8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PpznkY)
Orion's Belt and Sword (https://flic.kr/p/PpznkY)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5520/30541818344_669b8b14b1_c.jpg)
 (https://flic.kr/p/NwSNwU)Mule Deer Portrait (https://flic.kr/p/NwSNwU)
Nice shots Anchorage, like your fireside composition a lot...
Thanks for sharing
Cheers
Grant
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Grant Atkinson on December 10, 2016, 09:10:11 AM
I got mine mostly to take my kids pics and not to miss precious moments :)
Great shot Jopa, just beautiful!
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 10, 2016, 11:16:03 AM
Well, the thread header is "anything" so I guess I can inject a woodpecker since my limited shooting leaves me with little else right now! :( ;)

This is 400 DO II X1.4 at ISO 1600 F6.3  1/1000 backlit (-20C) :)

Possibly the same guy at an earlier Nov. date this time X2 ISO 8000 F9 1/1000 about 1/3 of frame.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: applecider on December 10, 2016, 01:19:29 PM
Jack I set up my Better beamer on 580 or 600RT flashes as follows.

ETTL is the mode, with high speed sync.  The weight of the BB seems to jar the flash occasionally and it defaults to non-high speed sync at 1/ 250sec.  I wish there was a way to tighten the connection.

I generally deep the power output at 0, no plus or minus, but vary this with some environmental conditions. 

I think I've read somewhere that setting the flashes distance to 50mm maximizes the output downrange.

As Surapon has moded his BB with reflective silver duct tape on the inside of the BB so have I in the hope that there will be more light downrange. His article is somewhere in CR. (here maybe http://bit.ly/2hg7TPE )

One issue that comes up is shooting thru grass or branches as dross closer to the flash gets more than it's share of illumination and can lead to a "washed out" picture of the subject.

And of course despite the flashes relatively faster recovery time with HSS, the 1DX outguns it and only the first of a burst gets the flash. 

Oh and somehow the white balance totally changes on the flashed image.  I'll look for a series where I can show this.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 10, 2016, 03:37:17 PM
applecider, thanks for this helpful reply!  I actually had gotten fairly good at using the 600EX-RT with my 6D a year+ ago but now I just have to bite the bullet and try with the 1DX2.  My short term memory is pretty bad and it seems I'm always relearning what should be so easy to remember.  And then there is this crazy amount of unfinished house reno stuff presenting itself daily - it's downright depressing; a guy should be free to play! ;)

I was following Surapon's adventures with much enjoyment back then and will have to revisit it soon.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Raptors on December 10, 2016, 07:00:16 PM
I got mine mostly to take my kids pics and not to miss precious moments :)

That is indeed a very special moment!  Love it.

Jack

Thank you Jack!
How do you like your Better Beamer?

Let's see, what is the best excuse for not having used it, I can muster.  Honestly, the 1DX2 AF has me so engaged trying to understand it all that I haven't dared to mount my flash on the camera.  I know, it's not necessary to master it all but that's how I tend to be.  It also ties in with my chronic headaches that make me mentally less than I'd normally be in relating to all this.

Kind of pathetic isn't it! ;D  One day soon.

Jack


Hi Jack,

I got an email from Canon with a link to a new 1DX MKII AF Setting Guidebook. I haven't had a chance to look at it, but you may find it useful.

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/news/canon_publishes_the_af_setting_guidebook_for_eos-1d_x_mark_ii.do?utm_source=newsletter_december_1_16&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter (http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/news/canon_publishes_the_af_setting_guidebook_for_eos-1d_x_mark_ii.do?utm_source=newsletter_december_1_16&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletter)

Sue
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 11, 2016, 01:00:48 AM
Hey Sue thanks for thinking of me.  Yes, it's great and I have it printed and highlighted and I recommend it highly.  I may be repeating here, can't recall, but my best recent find is that one can have both back buttons and the shutter programmed for AF.  I find having the shutter giving large zone really handy for BIF because my two back buttons, AF-on, and * override it and are set for servo point expansion and single spot respectively.  This works so intuitively for me - three choices instantaneously available with buttons I find the easiest to use.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on December 11, 2016, 02:12:29 PM
I hear quite a few longing for the option of using a 2xIII on a 600 f4L IS II and get to 1.200mm. What you should be aware of is the fact that haze, dust and what not will distort your images and there are clear limitations to its use.

This one is of five young lions, who ganged up on this cape buffalo. A special experience in it self, since I have never seen 5 equally aged young males before and certainly not being capable of killing a buffalo. The buffalo has just been brought down and is far from dead. It took some 20-30 minutes before it stopped kicking and grunting. Not the most pleasing sight, but a part of nature. As you can see, there is quite a bit of sharpness, clarity (and quality) to be wanted, which is due to haze. I have dehazed, sharpened, contrasted and clarified as much as I could, but still ... On this day it was overcast and not particularly hot. If the sun had been up, the images could be thrown away.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 11, 2016, 05:16:12 PM
Eldar, still very good!  And we have squeamish folk complaining about it being inhumane to shoot a deer.  I don't shoot and I don't condone animal cruelty by any means but .......  I think scenes like these should be played in every classroom to keep things in perspective.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 11, 2016, 05:20:04 PM
Now one more woodpecker - I promise no more for a while. ;)  Heavy crop (for effect).  In the full body shot you can see his breath.  FPS gave me this.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Ryananthony on December 11, 2016, 05:27:05 PM
Wow Jack, great photo. I love the second one.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 11, 2016, 05:29:14 PM
Yes, I hear he's quite a kisser!

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on December 11, 2016, 06:13:53 PM
Yes, I hear he's quite a kisser!

Jack

 ;D

Very nice pictures, Jack.  :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on December 11, 2016, 07:02:55 PM
Excellent shots, Jack. Keep 'em coming, I say.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 11, 2016, 09:59:39 PM
Thanks guys.  Must not over do it, but if something different comes along you may see another one day.  These were shot from an open door and it's super cold here and I'm shooting into the sun so I really should dress up and go out.  It's like -30C with wind chill considered, but sunny - Sunny Alberta.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: arthurbikemad on December 12, 2016, 12:43:36 PM
So many great shots here!

Thought I'd mix it up a little with the 1DX2 shots, here's some static Enduro bike shots :)

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/661/30746106823_9c02de4c7a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NQVQo4)WR250F - Akrapovic (https://flic.kr/p/NQVQo4) by Arthur Bike Mad (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135736949@N08/), on Flickr

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/490/31183287350_a3bf23be21_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PvyuVm)WR250F - Akrapovic (https://flic.kr/p/PvyuVm) by Arthur Bike Mad (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135736949@N08/), on Flickr

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/57/31517313816_17bb5a0b39_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q25tmm)WR250F - Akrapovic (https://flic.kr/p/Q25tmm) by Arthur Bike Mad (https://www.flickr.com/photos/135736949@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on December 12, 2016, 12:51:05 PM
Thought I'd mix it up a little with the 1DX2 shots, here's some static Enduro bike shots :)

Nice series, Arthur. I especially like the last picture.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Grant Atkinson on December 12, 2016, 02:33:49 PM
Jack, the best detailed looking bird capture i have seen so far from you since you started posting with the 1dx mk2..you must be happy with those.  Also that hazy dark blue makes for a spectacular background..

Like the enduro bike shots Arthur, is it a Yamaha?  Nice perspective, and the bright colours really stand out against the natural backgrounds

And i agree Eldar, there are limits to what focal length one can shoot before atmospherics start to have an impact. I guess there are times of days and places where it happens less...
I enjoyed your post above of the male lion coalition of 5, something special to see for sure.
Cheers
Grant
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 12, 2016, 07:08:44 PM
Thanks Grant encouragement is motivational! ;)  The Pileated woodpeckers have become regular visitors, whereas for many decades I scarcely saw one and they always impress; can't help running for the camera almost every time.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 13, 2016, 02:14:53 PM
Thought I'd share this one because it's a pose I like a lot and it follows Grant's encouragement. ;) 

With my 6D by ISO 1600 I was beginning to not be perfectly happy but now it seems I can safely go higher.  This is ISO 4000  400 DO II X1.4 III 1/1000 F6.3

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on December 13, 2016, 03:29:17 PM
Nicely done, Jack.   :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: LordofTackle on December 13, 2016, 03:58:22 PM
Jack,

amazing picture with the woodpecker hanging his tongue out :)
very well done! I bet those 14fps came in handy here :P

I just wish the woodpeckers here would be less shy ;)

-Sebastian
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Grant Atkinson on December 13, 2016, 04:02:13 PM
Thought I'd share this one because it's a pose I like a lot and it follows Grant's encouragement. ;) 

With my 6D by ISO 1600 I was beginning to not be perfectly happy but now it seems I can safely go higher.  This is ISO 4000  400 DO II X1.4 III 1/1000 F6.3

Jack
Really like this pileated shot Jack
Specially like how the bird is turned slightly toward the camera.  Although you did not have the benefit of that hazy blue forest background like in the earlier shot, you did well with the exposure even with a partially dark bird against a bright background. I also like that you can see the woodpeckers feet and whole shape, clearly defined (whereas on the previous shots the feet where hidden from view).  I would also run for the camera if i could see pileated woodpecker nearby,  :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 13, 2016, 04:11:28 PM
Thanks Grant.  As you know we may have an idea what we want but we don't always get cooperation.  The pose was held for a burst of 6 or 7 shots and this is the one where he turned his head just right.  the exposure was close but I had to subdue the back-lighting.  If you were here you'd have your fill of these guys but honestly I never tire - they're magnificent.  Hoping for some BIF but so far I'm just not very good.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on December 13, 2016, 04:16:07 PM
Thanks Click and Sebastian.  It is indeed funny how shyness factors in differently depending on location.  When we were feasting on Harry the heron shots thanks to Serendipity, I couldn't get to within 100+ yards of one, if I was lucky.

I have carefully walked up to a busy Pileated within 10 feet but not these present guys.  I think they are observing me being around even when I don't think they are around and getting more tame.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on January 14, 2017, 08:01:44 AM
Finally I can join this thread also!

Just had my first real day of use with the mk2 and my son playing a soccer-cup.

I just can't believe how much better at tracking the mk2 is over the mk1, truly spectacular! Under fluorescent lights, 1/2000s f2 ISO 12800-25600 every single shot is properly focused. Before I couldn't even use 8 point focusing because it was everywhere, not it just stays on no matter what! ;D can't really post any pictures from the soccer as there are other kids than my son in every picture, but I'll shoot something else and post asap.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Besisika on January 14, 2017, 08:47:49 AM
Finally I can join this thread also!

Just had my first real day of use with the mk2 and my son playing a soccer-cup.

I just can't believe how much better at tracking the mk2 is over the mk1, truly spectacular! Under fluorescent lights, 1/2000s f2 ISO 12800-25600 every single shot is properly focused. Before I couldn't even use 8 point focusing because it was everywhere, not it just stays on no matter what! ;D can't really post any pictures from the soccer as there are other kids than my son in every picture, but I'll shoot something else and post asap.
I guess you shoot with the 200 2.0? I can't wait to rent that lens and try it out.
Yes, please post some when you have a chance.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on January 14, 2017, 09:45:34 AM
Finally I can join this thread also!

Just had my first real day of use with the mk2 and my son playing a soccer-cup.

I just can't believe how much better at tracking the mk2 is over the mk1, truly spectacular! Under fluorescent lights, 1/2000s f2 ISO 12800-25600 every single shot is properly focused. Before I couldn't even use 8 point focusing because it was everywhere, not it just stays on no matter what! ;D can't really post any pictures from the soccer as there are other kids than my son in every picture, but I'll shoot something else and post asap.
I guess you shoot with the 200 2.0? I can't wait to rent that lens and try it out.
Yes, please post some when you have a chance.

Yup! And what a combo that is! holy moly :D
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on January 14, 2017, 09:56:39 AM
Congratulations Viggo. You'll love that camera!
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on January 14, 2017, 01:28:46 PM
Congratulations Viggo. You'll love that camera!

Thanks Eldar! I already love it, it's all those small things like choosing what is displayed in the VF, cycling through wb one shot / servo with small m.fn button, the EPIC live view focus in zero light and the speed. The whole camera is much more snappy, although the 1dx is FAST to begin with. More My Menu tabs, built in level permanently in the VF and the new grip and vertical grip is some of the things I really love so far. And notably better metering and dynamics.

*edit* I forgot to mention that after, oh a hundred years?, they finally made AWB that I can absolutely neutral.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 14, 2017, 05:16:38 PM
Not much posting going on here so I might as well. Just my friend Woody paying his daily visit.
400DO II X1.4 III.  Trying for some BIF but he's too quick for me so far.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on January 14, 2017, 05:25:00 PM
Very nice shot, Jack.  :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 14, 2017, 05:36:45 PM
Thanks click.

I'd love to hear what is working best for BIF - AF mode and adjustments to parameters etc.  I'm finding having the three buttons assigned to AF (shutter, AF-ON, *) gives me the most intuitive fast choice.  I have large zone, spot AI servo, spot one-shot, in that order right now.  With C1..3 I have variants of this such as spot expansion.

My reasoning is this.  Full auto large zone should snap onto a BIF and then back button AF-ON with spot expansion can over-ride this.  The * button is a bit awkward for action because of my hand size and grip.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on January 14, 2017, 05:41:03 PM
Those AF settings are basically what I have Jack. Shutter is single point one shot. AF ON is 9 point in the middle servo. * is large center zone servo. Only one of my C modes is for birds though.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 14, 2017, 05:45:29 PM
Those AF settings are basically what I have Jack. Shutter is single point one shot. AF ON is 9 point in the middle servo. * is large center zone servo. Only one of my C modes is for birds though.

I'll try some variations such as you have but what about the mode cases and any changes you make to the parameters.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on January 14, 2017, 06:49:36 PM
I'm still trying to figure out the AF cases... Right now I think its a crapshoot to make a difference, but I could be wrong lol.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on January 15, 2017, 02:47:13 AM
I'm still trying to figure out the AF cases... Right now I think its a crapshoot to make a difference, but I could be wrong lol.

Have a person simply act out and mimic the movements described in each case and try both the "wrong" case and the one designed to be correct and you'll see it really makes a difference. I like big apertures so I must get it right, if one shoots at f4-5.6 and wider dof it's much more forgiving. Does everything or nothing?

Remember that AF Cases have less or no effect if used with single point focusing.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 15, 2017, 12:21:05 PM
"Remember that AF Cases have less or no effect if used with single point focusing."  Not disputing this, but do we have any Canon commentary illuminating this?  I've found single point expansion to be challenged by a bird on a tree even though I started with the initial point on the bird's head.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on January 15, 2017, 12:51:23 PM
"Remember that AF Cases have less or no effect if used with single point focusing."  Not disputing this, but do we have any Canon commentary illuminating this?  I've found single point expansion to be challenged by a bird on a tree even though I started with the initial point on the bird's head.

Jack

Yes, Canon also confirm This:

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/files/education/technical/eos_1d_x_explained/AF_guide_EOS-1DX_eng.pdf
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 15, 2017, 01:53:54 PM
"Remember that AF Cases have less or no effect if used with single point focusing."  Not disputing this, but do we have any Canon commentary illuminating this?  I've found single point expansion to be challenged by a bird on a tree even though I started with the initial point on the bird's head.

Jack

Yes, Canon also confirm This:

http://cpn.canon-europe.com/files/education/technical/eos_1d_x_explained/AF_guide_EOS-1DX_eng.pdf

Thanks, I even read it myself a while back but it's been "information overload" for me.  First it was button programming and how to select the various choices quickly, but it is slowly sinking in.  Trouble is it's the time of year when I don't get nearly enough practice. :(

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: serendipidy on January 15, 2017, 03:17:52 PM
Not much posting going on here so I might as well. Just my friend Woody paying his daily visit.
400DO II X1.4 III.  Trying for some BIF but he's too quick for me so far.

Jack
Jack,
Your woodpecker photos are simply amazing! I love the color and sharpness. The composition and poses are captivating. Keep posting please. I'm glad your friend "Woody" is faithful..."Harry" hasn't been around for some time ;D
Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on January 15, 2017, 04:06:32 PM
Two white backed vultures flirting over a finished wildebeest.

Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Go Wild on January 15, 2017, 04:40:07 PM
Wish you all a Happy 2017! :)


Canon 1dx MkII + 500 F4IS II

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k111/pedrojpr/_F7I7686-ANO%20NOVO_zpsp4lrdczw.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on January 15, 2017, 05:10:11 PM
Very nice picture. Happy New Year!  :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 15, 2017, 06:33:04 PM
Very nice picture. Happy New Year!  :)

+1  What a grin!

Eric, glad you like them.  This last one I liked because it showed his handiwork! ;)  Wish I could borrow a few BCN herons for BIF practice.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on January 16, 2017, 02:19:51 AM
That's a crazy cool shot Eldar! Wow!
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on January 18, 2017, 03:49:02 PM
That's a crazy cool shot Eldar! Wow!
Thanks Viggo, these are fascinating birds. Here´s the colour version.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on January 18, 2017, 04:37:37 PM
What lens was that Eldar?

I think I like the color version because it pops out a little more. Maybe that's just the exposure.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on January 18, 2017, 04:43:51 PM
What lens was that Eldar?

I think I like the color version because it pops out a little more. Maybe that's just the exposure.
I used the 200-400 f/4.0 1.4x, @560mm. I agree that the colour version is better.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on January 18, 2017, 05:14:52 PM
Great shot, Eldar.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Eldar on January 20, 2017, 06:22:24 AM
Thanks Click,

Inspired by Nick Brandt, I am converting some of my images to B&W. It sounds easy, but I don´t think it is. Here is an attempt on a Serengeti lion.

200-400 f4L IS 1.4x @381mm, 1/800s, f/8.0, ISO320
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on January 20, 2017, 10:22:59 AM
I really like this picture. Lovely in B&W.  Well done, Eldar.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on February 10, 2017, 11:48:19 PM
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15676259_1243612195676514_1764084757697385235_o.jpg?oh=8a98f1fe4b798dd64d2e0afa61d9cd0f&oe=5945A588)

1DXii - 16-35f4
Comments welcome
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: WRS on February 25, 2017, 05:57:37 PM
Just got back from a great trip to the Galapagos Islands.  The principle purpose of the trip wasn't photography but I tried to squeeze in what I could.  I wanted to share this image as I continue to be blown away by the performance of the 1DX mark II.  This is an iso 10,000 file and I was impressed with the amount of retained detail, noise, etc. 

EF100-400 f/4-5.6 IS II USM
1/800, f/7.1, ISO 10,000
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on February 25, 2017, 06:27:02 PM
Very nice. 10,000 ISO is great to shoot at with this camera.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on February 25, 2017, 08:17:39 PM
Very nice. 10,000 ISO is great to shoot at with this camera.

+1

Well done, WRS.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on February 25, 2017, 09:45:07 PM
Just got back from a great trip to the Galapagos Islands.  The principle purpose of the trip wasn't photography but I tried to squeeze in what I could.  I wanted to share this image as I continue to be blown away by the performance of the 1DX mark II.  This is an iso 10,000 file and I was impressed with the amount of retained detail, noise, etc. 

EF100-400 f/4-5.6 IS II USM
1/800, f/7.1, ISO 10,000

This is super.  I don't feel I'm getting close to this level of resolution/performance and suspect it's got something to do with using the 400 DO II X2 III combo with the 1DX2.  I'm ever so close to sending the combo into Canon.  My main issue seems to be focus inconsistency between what I get with one-shot & AI servo with spot as compared with full auto, assuming focus falls where intended.

I'd appreciate any comments on this shot at ISO 10,000 (800mm, 1/640, F9, +1/3, spot AF) which is one of my better (usually the focus point will fall like this but the sharpness will be worse despite me messing with AFMA for hours) examples without any cropping: DPP noise reduction/sharpening default values NR L=5 NR C = 9.8, SH ST=3, F =0 THR =3, DLO =65), followed by a shot with those settings reduced to zero.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on February 25, 2017, 10:01:00 PM
Same shot, no NR.  Even though I saved to the same dimensions, the full shot now is too large for CR??  Anyway, this crop shows the essential details.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: privatebydesign on February 25, 2017, 10:24:01 PM
Jack you need to be very careful when you look at other images and think yours isn't as good IQ wise. The image by ethane was shot in open contrasty light and the texture of the scales is enhanced by the noise, so it looks way sharper than it is, it is also a very modest crop of the entire frame, 16 of the 21 MP.

By contrast (literally) your image has much flatter light, the texture of the feathers is not in harmony with the noise and your crop is a mere 3.5MP of the 20 original.

I'm not saying you are not having issues, I am saying don't compare shots like you are. Take the time to set up some tests for yourself, if manual focus in good contrasty light is giving you much better detail than AF is then you might have an AF issue. If manual focus is not giving you the kinds of results Brian gets at TDP on test targets with good technique and light you might have a lens/camera issue.

Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Ryananthony on February 25, 2017, 10:32:09 PM
Jack, those two shots differ far to much in my opinion. Your subject is very small in the frame, and it looks like WRS shot is direct light.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: privatebydesign on February 25, 2017, 10:33:26 PM
To illustrate that different crop issue, here is a screenshot of both the images side by side at the same pixel level. Any IQ comparison between the two (invalid though it is because of the differing light) must be done at these equal  sizes.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Matthew19 on February 26, 2017, 12:34:08 AM
85mm 1.2
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on February 26, 2017, 02:14:42 AM
Thanks guys.  Scott, I hear you but don't have the experience to fully appreciate the nuances.  I have indeed been trying to sort this out but I'm immersed in work and when I try we have cloud or cold that have worked against me.  Frustrating to say the least, since I want to be sailing freely when spring arrives here, not dealing with camera issues. 

I have many shots that seem to present issues but often they are high ISO, making evaluating focus challenging .... oh well.  When I set up for AFMA on a sunny day and ran through many shots it led me to believe about +9 was correct.  Bird shots said no way, it's off. 

So more sequences in different circumstances and for sure it's +4, BUT still no consistency in real life subjects.  Like I have shots with the spot focus square right on the eye and that area is obviously not in focus, unless there is movement, but I didn't think so.  Because I don't have sun I'm at say 1/1000 F8 with 800 mm and cant get ISO below maybe 2000+.  Oh, well.  Still, I'm learning various things such as camera button programming/operation etc., in spite of the challenges.

For example, I now have exposure compensation assigned to my set button and enlarge shot review assigned to multi-function 2, which is super handy.  The 6D was so simple! :'(

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on February 26, 2017, 02:19:05 AM
85mm 1.2

What a sweet child; you're a millionaire!  Great shot!

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on February 26, 2017, 08:23:57 AM
85mm 1.2

Lovely shot, Matthew.   :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on March 10, 2017, 10:34:47 AM
Took another trip to the zoo today and what do you know, the wolves came out to play.

In this shot he ran out on the ice and just went through as I was walking up and spotted him, threw my camera up and missed the actual moment when he went through. Well, I wasn't too late, but it was oof. He didn't look too happy about it, but he dried himself off and went back to playing.

(http://photobyviggo.com/CR/ulv2.jpg)
(http://photobyviggo.com/CR/ulv6.jpg)
(http://photobyviggo.com/CR/ulv4.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on March 10, 2017, 11:40:08 AM
Nice shots, Viggo. I especially like the last one.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on March 10, 2017, 11:46:32 AM
Nice shots, Viggo. I especially like the last one.

Thanks a bunch Click! I had a bit poor hitrate with it running, but then I realized I zoomed in on the face even though it missed and scrolled through the shots on it's face. But then I zoomed in at the actual point for every shot and a huge bunch of them are very much in focus where the point was, so I guess it's just me that can't follow. I tried every case and option for AF, but even Case 2 with the slowest re-focus option selected it jumped to the wolf's every time it tipped its head down when running.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Go Wild on March 10, 2017, 12:57:11 PM
Great photos Viggo!! ;)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Go Wild on March 10, 2017, 01:07:04 PM
This is one of my favourite images....this superb Cheetah was standind in this branch, at the end of a rainy day. She was trying to spot some prey. The pose, the subtle falling rain, the colours, the composition...and of course the beauty of this magnificent animal....everything on this photo makes me love it!

iso 2500 -  F4 - 1/1000
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k111/pedrojpr/_F7I6696gowild_zpsfqmlbupy.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 10, 2017, 01:36:45 PM
Nice shots, Viggo. I especially like the last one.

Thanks a bunch Click! I had a bit poor hitrate with it running, but then I realized I zoomed in on the face even though it missed and scrolled through the shots on it's face. But then I zoomed in at the actual point for every shot and a huge bunch of them are very much in focus where the point was, so I guess it's just me that can't follow. I tried every case and option for AF, but even Case 2 with the slowest re-focus option selected it jumped to the wolf's every time it tipped its head down when running.

Very interesting and nice!

I have so many shots, even now with confidence that AFMA is the correct value, with a spot focus point clearly where it needs to be but the result not being perfectly in focus.  And that's after having adjusted my shutter speed up to be sure it's not blur. 

I feel like I haven't stepped up very much/at all from when I was using the 6D, as far as actual IQ is concerned.  However, as previously pointed out to me a lot of my shots from indoors to outdoors have back lighting and most of the shots I relate to with the 6D were great lighting, so maybe it's apples and oranges.  I'm still searching for the best AF settings in various circumstances.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 10, 2017, 01:40:48 PM
This is one of my favourite images....this superb Cheetah was standind in this branch, at the end of a rainy day. She was trying to spot some prey. The pose, the subtle falling rain, the colours, the composition...and of course the beauty of this magnificent animal....everything on this photo makes me love it!

iso 2500 -  F4 - 1/1000
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k111/pedrojpr/_F7I6696gowild_zpsfqmlbupy.jpg)

I agree, that's really special, great shot.

Now, changing the subject.  CR has changed/updated the photo attachment protocol etc. and I was hoping we would see crisp photos and it seems there haven't been any improvements.  What I'm seeing on my monitor just doesn't impress me, or is it just me?

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on March 10, 2017, 01:49:04 PM
Nice shots, Viggo. I especially like the last one.

Thanks a bunch Click! I had a bit poor hitrate with it running, but then I realized I zoomed in on the face even though it missed and scrolled through the shots on it's face. But then I zoomed in at the actual point for every shot and a huge bunch of them are very much in focus where the point was, so I guess it's just me that can't follow. I tried every case and option for AF, but even Case 2 with the slowest re-focus option selected it jumped to the wolf's every time it tipped its head down when running.

Very interesting and nice!

I have so many shots, even now with confidence that AFMA is the correct value, with a spot focus point clearly where it needs to be but the result not being perfectly in focus.  And that's after having adjusted my shutter speed up to be sure it's not blur. 

I feel like I haven't stepped up very much/at all from when I was using the 6D, as far as actual IQ is concerned.  However, as previously pointed out to me a lot of my shots from indoors to outdoors have back lighting and most of the shots I relate to with the 6D were great lighting, so maybe it's apples and oranges.  I'm still searching for the best AF settings in various circumstances.

Jack

I don't think you really can use spot focus and servo, at least not on moving things. And the AF cases mostly doesn't work unless you have expansion.

The thing I still don't understand is when to use AF for erratic movement and when to use Case two and ignore things in front. I try both with everything, but neither works...
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 10, 2017, 02:11:47 PM
Nice shots, Viggo. I especially like the last one.

Thanks a bunch Click! I had a bit poor hitrate with it running, but then I realized I zoomed in on the face even though it missed and scrolled through the shots on it's face. But then I zoomed in at the actual point for every shot and a huge bunch of them are very much in focus where the point was, so I guess it's just me that can't follow. I tried every case and option for AF, but even Case 2 with the slowest re-focus option selected it jumped to the wolf's every time it tipped its head down when running.

Very interesting and nice!

I have so many shots, even now with confidence that AFMA is the correct value, with a spot focus point clearly where it needs to be but the result not being perfectly in focus.  And that's after having adjusted my shutter speed up to be sure it's not blur. 

I feel like I haven't stepped up very much/at all from when I was using the 6D, as far as actual IQ is concerned.  However, as previously pointed out to me a lot of my shots from indoors to outdoors have back lighting and most of the shots I relate to with the 6D were great lighting, so maybe it's apples and oranges.  I'm still searching for the best AF settings in various circumstances.

Jack

I don't think you really can use spot focus and servo, at least not on moving things. And the AF cases mostly doesn't work unless you have expansion.

The thing I still don't understand is when to use AF for erratic movement and when to use Case two and ignore things in front. I try both with everything, but neither works...

More than just that, I don't understand.  Hopefully as a collective CR group we can sort these things out. 

Here is a typical situation.  A Downy has landed and is pecking away and moving very little and I'm trying to keep a spot AF point on his head and doing pretty well - AI servo.  I fire a sequence at 1/2000 and when I view the result I see I've done pretty well with AF point placement but the bird is just not sharp, and not just his head, which may well have been moving.  So, here I sit viewing a shot with an AF point right on an eye and it's not all that sharp??  Am I simply expecting too high a keeper rate. :(

So, I started using auto with tracking and I'd go instantly from spot to auto and end up with maybe 3 or 4 AF points covering the Downy, hey, that should be just what the doctor ordered, right.  Examine the result and it's not any/much better.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on March 10, 2017, 02:30:02 PM
This is one of my favourite images....this superb Cheetah was standind in this branch, at the end of a rainy day. She was trying to spot some prey. The pose, the subtle falling rain, the colours, the composition...and of course the beauty of this magnificent animal....everything on this photo makes me love it!

I really like this picture. Great shot.   :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on March 10, 2017, 04:57:10 PM
Jack, have you read the AF Guide? I'm most of the way through it and I've learned a lot from it. Yet to try them out IRL, but at least I understand things better now.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on March 10, 2017, 05:20:00 PM
Jack, have you read the AF Guide? I'm most of the way through it and I've learned a lot from it. Yet to try them out IRL, but at least I understand things better now.

I know it by heart and the theory behind every aspect. That's not saying it works that way IRL. A bird that flies off, then sits down and take off in any direction and you want to avoid focus on the wings when it suddenly moves, how on earth do you set up AF? And does it work?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: CharlesGlatzer on March 10, 2017, 06:27:41 PM
See http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/news/canon_publishes_the_af_setting_guidebook_for_eos-1d_x_mark_ii.do

I used with great success the following settings for eagles images recently taken in Japan.

Steller's Sea Eagle, Rausu, Japan
EOS 1DX II, EF 400DO II, 1/2500 @ f/11, ISO 800.
Manual, Spot metered on snow +2 stops.
AI Servo, Auto AF Point Selection with the single AF point centered on the head, Case 6.

1/2500 to freeze the subject with f/11 to cover DOF. Case 6 reacts very quickly to changes in subject orientation. Provided the initial point of aquisition is appropriately chosen the Auto AF Point Selection will maintain focus on the subject.

You can view more eagles images using this method on my FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/charles.glatzer

Please feel free to contact me via message or directly for additional info.

Best, Chas

Charles Glatzer, M.Photog
Canon Explorer of Light
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Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 10, 2017, 08:10:38 PM
Jack, have you read the AF Guide? I'm most of the way through it and I've learned a lot from it. Yet to try them out IRL, but at least I understand things better now.

Well, yes and no.  It's a large document but I've digested a lot of it.  Of course, much more experimenting and learning is necessary!  It seems in a lot of my attempts at BIF I need faster point switching but, alas, it's winter and I don't have a ton of gulls to practice on. :( :)

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on March 11, 2017, 07:32:51 AM
. A bird that flies off, then sits down and take off in any direction and you want to avoid focus on the wings when it suddenly moves, how on earth do you set up AF? And does it work?

The only way to avoid that is to use small expanded AF point (1+4) focused on the head and have quick reactions. The old adage of practice, practice and practice. And when you have finished, practice some more.
In woodland near us there is a hole in a tree that is used by either nuthatches or great tits for a nest site and I have tried many times to get pictures of them in flight either taking off or landing and may approach is pretty much one of hit-and-miss where I pre-focus just forward or just behind the plane of the hole and when they look like they are about to take off hit the shutter and hope they fly into the plane of focus.
The other problem is that when small birds  take off they can be off and out of shot before I have even pressed the shutter so I am trying to learn the little tell-tale signs of them preparing to fly and that is not easy with birds that are naturally twitchy at the best of times. The evil thought crossed my mind of focussing and making a noise to spook them so I know when they are about to take off but I know that is not really fair on the little critters.


For other AF settings, I try to have f8 or narrower to give you the DOF and set the AF to slow response to intervening objects - in this case the wingtip would be an 'intervening object' and hopefully the AF will not have responded by the time the wingtip passes.
There is also bird behaviour - larger birds tend to (not guaranteed, but tend to) take off into the wind. But there is still that practice thing....
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 11, 2017, 01:49:28 PM
. A bird that flies off, then sits down and take off in any direction and you want to avoid focus on the wings when it suddenly moves, how on earth do you set up AF? And does it work?

The only way to avoid that is to use small expanded AF point (1+4) focused on the head and have quick reactions. The old adage of practice, practice and practice. And when you have finished, practice some more.
In woodland near us there is a hole in a tree that is used by either nuthatches or great tits for a nest site and I have tried many times to get pictures of them in flight either taking off or landing and may approach is pretty much one of hit-and-miss where I pre-focus just forward or just behind the plane of the hole and when they look like they are about to take off hit the shutter and hope they fly into the plane of focus.
The other problem is that when small birds  take off they can be off and out of shot before I have even pressed the shutter so I am trying to learn the little tell-tale signs of them preparing to fly and that is not easy with birds that are naturally twitchy at the best of times. The evil thought crossed my mind of focussing and making a noise to spook them so I know when they are about to take off but I know that is not really fair on the little critters.


For other AF settings, I try to have f8 or narrower to give you the DOF and set the AF to slow response to intervening objects - in this case the wingtip would be an 'intervening object' and hopefully the AF will not have responded by the time the wingtip passes.
There is also bird behaviour - larger birds tend to (not guaranteed, but tend to) take off into the wind. But there is still that practice thing....

It's good to hear others have challenges too. ;)  However, it doesn't solve the problem, so, as you said practice and recite: "if at first you don't succeed, try, try again" :)

It seems to me that even the 1DX2 AF is not fast enough for these speedy little critters??

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on March 11, 2017, 03:52:09 PM

It seems to me that even the 1DX2 AF is not fast enough for these speedy little critters??


Gasp, don't utter such heresy in these parts.

In all seriousness, it supposedly has the best AF system in the world, so if its not easy for that camera, it probably isn't easy for any other camera.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on March 12, 2017, 09:19:02 AM
For me, it has been a big hurdle to accept that nothing is flawless and that AF systems do miss. That sometimes I feel
It should track and hit. For example with some wolves in the zoo that was simply bobbing along in a slow pace and it just kept missing no matter what I tried. I came to realize that focus often on the point, I just didn't have the point where I wanted. I wish I could do setups and try repeated tests and really fine tune how I set up af, but I don't. So every time I try something with birds or whatever it feels like re-inventing the wheel every time.

Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on March 12, 2017, 11:54:00 AM
For me, it has been a big hurdle to accept that nothing is flawless and that AF systems do miss. That sometimes I feel
It should track and hit. For example with some wolves in the zoo that was simply bobbing along in a slow pace and it just kept missing no matter what I tried.

Glad I'm not the only one.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on March 13, 2017, 04:51:03 AM
For me, it has been a big hurdle to accept that nothing is flawless and that AF systems do miss. That sometimes I feel
It should track and hit. For example with some wolves in the zoo that was simply bobbing along in a slow pace and it just kept missing no matter what I tried.

Glad I'm not the only one.


Ditto  :D
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on March 13, 2017, 12:39:21 PM
I came to realize that focus often on the point, I just didn't have the point where I wanted.

Unfortunately, it is a familiar story - modern technology often highlights user error.
I hired a  5D4 this weekend and shot a few hundred shots of birdlife at a local public park and it first of all confirmed how good that 7D2 actually is, and showed how much better the AF of the 5D4 is even with the 400DO/I recall 2xtc.

I recall reading Arash hazeghi's review of the 5D4 (or was it the 1Dx2) and he had a sequence of a harrier and in every one of the photos the head was smack bang in the middle of the shot. So I spent hour just seeing if I could bring the camera to my eye and have the centre point on the subject - 70% were within a quarter of the frame and a few of those were within the 9-point zone. Disappointing.
As for tracking geese in flight (not the fastest birds around) it is disappointing to see how they 'wander' in the frame - something your comments about the wolves brought to mind.

So can I justify the 1Dx2? At the moment it is hard when the 5D4 is so good and if I do go the 1Dx2 I would have to promise myself to put the time in to make it worthwhile. 
Or go for the 5D4 and trade up as and when I think I could justify it (hoping the pound has not tanked post-Brexit in the meantime!).
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 14, 2017, 08:58:45 PM
Managed to find a few minutes to do a comparison of my 6D to the 1DX2 with 400 DO II X1.4 (no AF with 6D at 2X) and here is the result.  All setting and pp the same.  i used the AFMA for the 1DX2 which after countless hours seemed to be best -> +1.  For the 6D I don't recall doing the AFMA, so 0.  Here it is cropped close to the same, 100%

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on March 15, 2017, 03:05:45 AM
Is the result the same when using contrast focus?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on March 15, 2017, 04:59:28 AM
That is some discrepancy there, Jack. Absolutely nothing on the 1Dx2 image is sharp - and the depth of the image is so large that I am confident that, in that image at least, it is not an AFMA issue. IMO it look suspiciously like camera shake.

I think you will have to take this right back to basics and eliminate all variables and introduce them one by one:

mount the lens on a solid tripod and mount the camera (you can do all of this with both cameras to confirm the two images you posted above).  Set single-point focus, one-shot.
Turn off AF, focus manually using magnified live view and take a shot using a remote release (no shake from pressing the shutter button nor from the shutter mechanism) - that will tell you the ultimate quality output of each camera
Turn AF on, use Live View and focus/fire using a remote release
Keep AF on and turn LiveView off. Use a remote release to focus/fire (this is focussing as you would normally) - this will tell you if the AF normally used is accurate
Take it off the tripod and try it handheld

If you want to do all this really thoroughly, then take a photo, manually change the AF and then refocus it manually or automatically. No AF is perfect every time and this would give you a 'best of' judgement.

Don't mess around with AFMA at this point - the initial purpose is to see if there is an issue with any part of the AF chain of events.
On that image you posted, I would focus on the spike of wood to the left of the tangle of strippings - if you focus on there and the main trunk or the strippings are more in focus it will indicate if there is any front/back focussing.

I hope this helps. 
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 15, 2017, 12:45:17 PM
Thanks guys.

Viggo, it was not liveview, not sure what you mean by using contrast focus.

Mikehit, I subscribe to your procedure and will have to bite the bullet and go through that process with a remote.  At this point I've done so many variants that I must confess I'm getting a little tired of it, but you are right.  On the other hand I have gone through iterations with 1/2000 shutter and still had issues.

I have of course observed visual shake with 800mm that suggests I may need a higher shutter speed in general.  I thought IS and 1/2000 surely should be enough?? 

Still, in all this my focus was on getting AFMA right and I believe inconsistent AF did not allow me to pinpoint a reliable AFMA value - like how to explain an hour of testing suggesting +12 and another day extensive shooting is saying +1, oh well, such is life! :)

I figure I'd have to send both the lens and camera in although the lens seems fine with the 6D.  I hate to part with it for a month.

Jack

Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on March 15, 2017, 03:01:47 PM
Thanks guys.

Viggo, it was not liveview, not sure what you mean by using contrast focus.

Mikehit, I subscribe to your procedure and will have to bite the bullet and go through that process with a remote.  At this point I've done so many variants that I must confess I'm getting a little tired of it, but you are right.  On the other hand I have gone through iterations with 1/2000 shutter and still had issues.

I have of course observed visual shake with 800mm that suggests I may need a higher shutter speed in general.  I thought IS and 1/2000 surely should be enough?? 

Still, in all this my focus was on getting AFMA right and I believe inconsistent AF did not allow me to pinpoint a reliable AFMA value - like how to explain an hour of testing suggesting +12 and another day extensive shooting is saying +1, oh well, such is life! :)

I figure I'd have to send both the lens and camera in although the lens seems fine with the 6D.  I hate to part with it for a month.

Jack

In live View when you focus without flipping the mirror you bypass the whole AF sensor. That way you will completely take out every bit of phase detection AF, thus you'll focus perfectly and afma will not be a part of the equation.

The best way to see what's what when it comes to sharpness.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 20, 2017, 01:55:22 AM
Something has happened relative to the sharpness of my shots but I'm not quite sure yet.  I think this shot shows clearly that my AFMA is at least close now.  It's F10 1/1250 ISO 1000, 100% crop of 400 X2.  It appears that my previous back lit photos are indeed part of the problem regarding not looking sharp.  This has some fill flash.

Thoughts anyone?

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on March 20, 2017, 04:27:49 AM
To my eyes, assuming you focussed on the eye,  the 'correct' blades of grass are in focus.
The bird is still a bit fuzzy - how heavy was the crop? Shutter speed?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: djack41 on March 20, 2017, 08:34:01 AM
IDX2 PROBLEM!!  I saw a thread on Art Morris's blog about oil shatters on the 1DX2 sensors. So I checked the sensor on my new 1DX2 and after less than 600 images, it already has oil splatters. The oil splatters appear as droplets and are difficult to clean. Importantly, many owners report that the problem persists after cleaning and Canon seems to offer no solution.

Check your sensor by shooting a grey or blue sky with any telephoto lens in AV mode. Go to manual AF and defocus to close focus. Jpeg is fine for the test. View the images at 200%.

This problem is wide spread. My neighbor just checked his sensor and also has oil platters. I encourage anyone affected to contact Canon and complain. Hopefully, Canon will develop a solution to the problem and not just clean the sensor.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on March 20, 2017, 10:38:42 AM
If you have to magnify the image to 200%, is it a problem? You can say 'it should not happen' which is fair enough but if you had to do this to notice the droplets - is it a problem?

Why do you need to use a telephoto lens in AV mode?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 20, 2017, 11:16:57 AM
To my eyes, assuming you focussed on the eye,  the 'correct' blades of grass are in focus.
The bird is still a bit fuzzy - how heavy was the crop? Shutter speed?

Cropped to roughly 4/20 MP and pp as best I could in DPP sharpness 4, DLO 70, no NR.

If I hadn't done so well with my 6D and 300 2.8 II X2 III I probably would be none the wiser.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: privatebydesign on March 20, 2017, 11:18:28 AM
IDX2 PROBLEM!!  I saw a thread on Art Morris's blog about oil shatters on the 1DX2 sensors. So I checked the sensor on my new 1DX2 and after less than 600 images, it already has oil splatters. The oil splatters appear as droplets and are difficult to clean. Importantly, many owners report that the problem persists after cleaning and Canon seems to offer no solution.

Check your sensor by shooting a grey or blue sky with any telephoto lens in AV mode. Go to manual AF and defocus to close focus. Jpeg is fine for the test. View the images at 200%.

This problem is wide spread. My neighbor just checked his sensor and also has oil platters. I encourage anyone affected to contact Canon and complain. Hopefully, Canon will develop a solution to the problem and not just clean the sensor.

This is just not an issue at this point. Look at some sample Nikon D600 images to see what a real oil splatter problem is! https://garypoulton.com/tag/nikon-d600-sensor-problems/

As Mikehit points out and I agree, if you didn't notice it before, and you have to take a test image at uncommon apertures in uncommon exposure levels and then enlarge them to unrealistic zoom levels to notice it, can it really be called an 'issue'?

Relax, takes pictures with your camera, enjoy it's capabilities and remove any spots of dust or oil actually visible in your images at output sizes.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 20, 2017, 11:28:49 AM
If you have to magnify the image to 200%, is it a problem? You can say 'it should not happen' which is fair enough but if you had to do this to notice the droplets - is it a problem?

Why do you need to use a telephoto lens in AV mode?

I tend to agree, especially after PBD has chimed in that dust and spatter generally is not that big of a problem.  I have quite a bit of spatter and in certain cases with some cropping it's showing.  Here is my shot of the sky (crop of the top left 1/4 of FF). 

I had oil spots on my 1D4 that I cleaned off using the VisibleDust kit for oil and I had to repeat many times, including purchasing numerous spare wipe sticks to get it half decent.  Not something I plan to do again since I'm not the steadiest guy.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 20, 2017, 11:36:37 AM
IDX2 PROBLEM!!  I saw a thread on Art Morris's blog about oil shatters on the 1DX2 sensors. So I checked the sensor on my new 1DX2 and after less than 600 images, it already has oil splatters. The oil splatters appear as droplets and are difficult to clean. Importantly, many owners report that the problem persists after cleaning and Canon seems to offer no solution.

Check your sensor by shooting a grey or blue sky with any telephoto lens in AV mode. Go to manual AF and defocus to close focus. Jpeg is fine for the test. View the images at 200%.

This problem is wide spread. My neighbor just checked his sensor and also has oil platters. I encourage anyone affected to contact Canon and complain. Hopefully, Canon will develop a solution to the problem and not just clean the sensor.

This is just not an issue at this point. Look at some sample Nikon D600 images to see what a real oil splatter problem is! https://garypoulton.com/tag/nikon-d600-sensor-problems/

As Mikehit points out and I agree, if you didn't notice it before, and you have to take a test image at uncommon apertures in uncommon exposure levels and then enlarge them to unrealistic zoom levels to notice it, can it really be called an 'issue'?

Relax, takes pictures with your camera, enjoy it's capabilities and remove any spots of dust or oil actually visible in your images at output sizes.

Scott, that is indeed a situation that would turn my stomach.  I'm just too fussy a guy to be able to pretend a real problem is not a big deal. 

However, I agree with the sentiment that pestering companies about very small issues is simply contributing to escalating costs and is wasteful of ones time.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 26, 2017, 04:09:36 AM
Thought I'd play around with trying to catch the deer that come late in the day and in this case well after dark.  Obviously, flash is not very complimentary.  I had one out on the lawn set at 20mm and the other cabled, just off the camera at 200mm and used the 400 DO II.  Many shots had extremely steely eyes.

This is not cropped, and RAW optimized in DPP as best I could so I'd be interested in comments on whether it's soft.  Now seeing it in CR (when enlarged), it just doesn't seem to me to be up to standard.  Sunny and not too cold so I'll get Canon's requested AF shots today.

400 DO F4 II @ F8,1/250 flash sync, ISO 4000.  I guess the grass says it's in focus.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: WRS on March 26, 2017, 10:00:53 AM
IDX2 PROBLEM!!  I saw a thread on Art Morris's blog about oil shatters on the 1DX2 sensors. So I checked the sensor on my new 1DX2 and after less than 600 images, it already has oil splatters. The oil splatters appear as droplets and are difficult to clean. Importantly, many owners report that the problem persists after cleaning and Canon seems to offer no solution.

Check your sensor by shooting a grey or blue sky with any telephoto lens in AV mode. Go to manual AF and defocus to close focus. Jpeg is fine for the test. View the images at 200%.

This problem is wide spread. My neighbor just checked his sensor and also has oil platters. I encourage anyone affected to contact Canon and complain. Hopefully, Canon will develop a solution to the problem and not just clean the sensor.

Early on after I got my 1DX II my sensor was very dirty as well. I cleaned it once and the problem didn't appear again nearly as quickly or to the same extent.  For me the issue has seemed to diminish with time.  Additionally, as I am usually shooting with large apertures on this camera (wildlife, etc) I rarely notice the issue.  Interestingly, my 5DS R seems almost completely resistant to developing spots on the sensor.  After 2 years of ownership and never having cleaned it I pretty much can't find any spots on the sensor even when looking hard! 

I'm not sure complaining to Canon will produce much in the way of change.  I would pick up a few sensor swabs and clean the sensor every once in a while.  If your experience is like mine after a couple cleanings the issue will have greatly diminished or disappeared. 
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on March 26, 2017, 12:19:35 PM
WRS, I've cleaned my 6D sensor of dust - easy enough.  However, when I cleaned the 1D4 that had oil spots I had to repeat numerous times using the appropriate visible dust solution and had to buy another kit and extra swab sticks, not cheap where I live.  As a result I think my sensor would have to be pretty bad before I'd want to try that again.  Perhaps I haven't done enough cleaning to develop the knack/confidence??

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on March 26, 2017, 12:59:59 PM
Went another round with my 200, and adjusted with tip from one thread here with the idea that both near and far dof limit should be equally oof, and I thought my 200 might be a little in front and indded it was. Went from +3 to +5 and now it's back to it's insanely sharp self. Brought my B1 today as well as it was near summer today (snow last week, lol).

It was way too bright for him to relax his face, but at least he was happy :D

1dx2+200 f2.0. iso 100, f2.0, 1/4000s. Profoto B1 in BD white camera right at full power, sun top left as edge.

(http://photobyviggo.com/CR/a37_cr.jpg)

Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on March 26, 2017, 01:02:05 PM
Very nice portrait. Well done, Viggo.   :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on March 26, 2017, 01:06:53 PM
Thanks a lot Click  :D
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on March 26, 2017, 01:34:09 PM
It is nice.

"Dad how much longer do I have to stand here..."
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on March 26, 2017, 01:46:37 PM
It is nice.

"Dad how much longer do I have to stand here..."

Thanks👍🏽 And yes, that's how it usually goes 8)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Quarantasei on April 02, 2017, 04:46:47 PM
Hello everyone.

I just received my 1DX MKII on Thursday and took it for a test drive to the local zoo yesterday.
I'm extremely impressed by the AF, speed and IQ of the camera.

It's just an incredible machine and I can't wait to spend more time with it.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on April 02, 2017, 04:52:44 PM
Very nice series, Quarantasei.   :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on April 02, 2017, 05:43:27 PM
Very nice series, Quarantasei.   :)

+1  May I ask what lens you're using?

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Quarantasei on April 03, 2017, 12:47:56 AM
Very nice series, Quarantasei.   :)

+1  May I ask what lens you're using?

Jack

First of all thank you.

The lens used was the 500 L II, my walkaround lens ;-)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: arthurbikemad on April 03, 2017, 02:11:05 AM
If you have to magnify the image to 200%, is it a problem? You can say 'it should not happen' which is fair enough but if you had to do this to notice the droplets - is it a problem?

Why do you need to use a telephoto lens in AV mode?

I tend to agree, especially after PBD has chimed in that dust and spatter generally is not that big of a problem.  I have quite a bit of spatter and in certain cases with some cropping it's showing.  Here is my shot of the sky (crop of the top left 1/4 of FF). 

I had oil spots on my 1D4 that I cleaned off using the VisibleDust kit for oil and I had to repeat many times, including purchasing numerous spare wipe sticks to get it half decent.  Not something I plan to do again since I'm not the steadiest guy.

Jack

I had dust/oil issues from day one, not just a few I mean loads, CPS told me to get the camera exchanged for a new one rather than clean it, next one also so had issues, I posted some pics here but soon got told to get a life and go shoot, after about a month of no 1DX2 I decided the camera was just too good elsewhere to not have one so I left it a while and got another, I don't care to check this one so I just shoot and never look for dust or oil, your soft issues raise an eyebrow with me as sometime I feel my images are a little soft, but I guess that's 20MP for you, once that was a good number, even with the best glass 500/4ii I often feel my focus is a smidge off, I don't bother to over analyse and start AFMA my glass as I try to focus (no pun) on the shot more so and be a photographer, the geek in me wants to pick the camera to bits, as much as I love it it's not perfection. My 5D3 on the other hand has been just that for many years, never an image IQ issue and is stellar with my big lense, I plan to get a 5D4 soon as the next firmware and mods have been added that they are doing now, I feel it will make a great body given the AF and MP count, I'd like a 5DSR too but I don't plan to have more than two bodies at anyone time, even with the minor niggles I still choose the 1DX2 for anything I plan to shoot, I was unable to give it up.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on April 03, 2017, 03:06:58 AM
If you have to magnify the image to 200%, is it a problem? You can say 'it should not happen' which is fair enough but if you had to do this to notice the droplets - is it a problem?

Why do you need to use a telephoto lens in AV mode?

I tend to agree, especially after PBD has chimed in that dust and spatter generally is not that big of a problem.  I have quite a bit of spatter and in certain cases with some cropping it's showing.  Here is my shot of the sky (crop of the top left 1/4 of FF). 

I had oil spots on my 1D4 that I cleaned off using the VisibleDust kit for oil and I had to repeat many times, including purchasing numerous spare wipe sticks to get it half decent.  Not something I plan to do again since I'm not the steadiest guy.

Jack

I had dust/oil issues from day one, not just a few I mean loads, CPS told me to get the camera exchanged for a new one rather than clean it, next one also so had issues, I posted some pics here but soon got told to get a life and go shoot, after about a month of no 1DX2 I decided the camera was just too good elsewhere to not have one so I left it a while and got another, I don't care to check this one so I just shoot and never look for dust or oil, your soft issues raise an eyebrow with me as sometime I feel my images are a little soft, but I guess that's 20MP for you, once that was a good number, even with the best glass 500/4ii I often feel my focus is a smidge off, I don't bother to over analyse and start AFMA my glass as I try to focus (no pun) on the shot more so and be a photographer, the geek in me wants to pick the camera to bits, as much as I love it it's not perfection. My 5D3 on the other hand has been just that for many years, never an image IQ issue and is stellar with my big lense, I plan to get a 5D4 soon as the next firmware and mods have been added that they are doing now, I feel it will make a great body given the AF and MP count, I'd like a 5DSR too but I don't plan to have more than two bodies at anyone time, even with the minor niggles I still choose the 1DX2 for anything I plan to shoot, I was unable to give it up.

I finally got a sunny day last week where I could follow all of Canon's instructions so they could evaluate my AF via RAW shots, but it still comes back to this.  I use ISO 100 rarely, likewise one-shot and I seldom have lighting such as for the test shots, so what will this prove.  For me, other than softness complaints (which I acknowledge could be just be fussing as you've implied) my biggest complaint has been the inconsistency of AF.  Why so many shots with a spot focus point bang on and yet the result being OOF?!

I've told them I want to send it in but haven't yet heard back from them to start the process.  I agree about 20 MP being a "shortcoming" for at least some of us regarding this camera.  I'm sure someone who shoots football from the sidelines couldn't care less.  I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed in this purchase and yet in many ways it is so nice - conflicted before and after the purchase. :-\

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: arthurbikemad on April 03, 2017, 03:12:51 AM
Jack I've not scrutinised the cameras AF consistency like you have but I am sure you know what's what with your camera, for the record I feel exactly the same as you. I am not sure I regret the purchase but I sure do feel a little dissapointed in the IQ, given that I took some fab shots with a 1200D mounted to my 500/4 I found myself in fits of hysterical laughter hahahaha
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on April 03, 2017, 03:36:21 AM
Jack I've not scrutinised the cameras AF consistency like you have but I am sure you know what's what with your camera, for the record I feel exactly the same as you. I am not sure I regret the purchase but I sure do feel a little dissapointed in the IQ, given that I took some fab shots with a 1200D mounted to my 500/4 I found myself in fits of hysterical laughter hahahaha

A person can drive themselves nuts.  Like you with the 5D3, I've done just fine for 4 years with the 6D, so why should I be running into this.  Have I fried my brain?

One thing, though, I did shoot a lot of back lit photos from my (open) window and that's not something I was in the habit of doing in general when I'm out and about so now that it's warmer I'll be getting a better comparison.

I probably can't/shouldn't justify a 5D4 but I just might get one.  It all depends on how the light and handy 6D2 specs out.  It must have better AF and F8 capability, be closer to 30 MP and hopefully have around 6 FPS or it's no go.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Mikehit on April 03, 2017, 03:37:51 AM
I use ISO 100 rarely, likewise one-shot and I seldom have lighting such as for the test shots, so what will this prove. 

ISO 100 has the least noise so will show maximum sharpness if everything else is working as it should: the aim here is not testing photos you like to take, but testing the system capabilities. If the ISO 100 proves good and sharp then you may have to accept the 1Dx2 is not suited to your style of photography.

One review I read not so long ago took great pains to point out that the great images you see with the 1Dx2 have been taken by great photographers - wildlife experts who know fieldcraft to get the shot with minimal cropping, or sports photographers who get passes to the sidelines of the great sports events.

However (and it is a big 'however') if you are convinced that the 6D in the same circumstances will be sharper then that is a real concern - I can't recall if you have done that comparison side by side.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: arthurbikemad on April 03, 2017, 03:41:49 AM
Jack I'm defo getting a 5D4 and will use the 1DX2 for my action stuff or just more demanding shots, I KNOW the 5D4 will do my head in more so when shooting birds over the 1DX2 in regards to IQ. Same as I know I will never have the right camera mounted when I am out and about ;)
Well you have to try these things Jack, it's the only way to cure those sleepless nights haha
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on April 03, 2017, 04:03:20 AM
I use ISO 100 rarely, likewise one-shot and I seldom have lighting such as for the test shots, so what will this prove. 

ISO 100 has the least noise so will show maximum sharpness if everything else is working as it should: the aim here is not testing photos you like to take, but testing the system capabilities. If the ISO 100 proves good and sharp then you may have to accept the 1Dx2 is not suited to your style of photography.

One review I read not so long ago took great pains to point out that the great images you see with the 1Dx2 have been taken by great photographers - wildlife experts who know fieldcraft to get the shot with minimal cropping, or sports photographers who get passes to the sidelines of the great sports events.

However (and it is a big 'however') if you are convinced that the 6D in the same circumstances will be sharper then that is a real concern - I can't recall if you have done that comparison side by side.
 

Mike, your points are valid and no I haven't side by side.  One issue is the 6D doesn't AF at F8, which is my "just had to have, favorite 400 X2 new toy".  My feeling was that the 6D with 300 X2 was no better than 1DX2 with 400 X1.4 so that was positive.  However, I've gotten too many 800mm OOF shots when the spot square was right on the money.  Never the less, I don't discount the points you've made because there have been a lot of variables that need to be taken out of the equation and I've been too busy and it's been dreary old (cold) winter until recently. 

Another thing, some of my 300 X2 shots with the 6D were from my observatory and barely cropped so extremely nice.  Now the 400 doesn't focus as close so I've got to consider my prop setup or use extension tubes and so forth and I haven't shot from there all winter so no 1DX2 comparisons.

I certainly was not pleased that the 1DX2 only got 20 MP but I chose to purchase it, regardless.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on April 03, 2017, 04:09:03 AM
Jack I'm defo getting a 5D4 and will use the 1DX2 for my action stuff or just more demanding shots, I KNOW the 5D4 will do my head in more so when shooting birds over the 1DX2 in regards to IQ. Same as I know I will never have the right camera mounted when I am out and about ;)
Well you have to try these things Jack, it's the only way to cure those sleepless nights haha

I know exactly what you're saying.  However, my finances are not quite a match for my dreams! ;)

Seriously, I'd rather have a single camera when I'm hiking and I like 1 series features.  The 1DX2 has the most amazing AF programmability now that I've figure it out, not sure if the 5D4 has all of those features.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: privatebydesign on April 03, 2017, 10:13:12 AM
Went another round with my 200, and adjusted with tip from one thread here with the idea that both near and far dof limit should be equally oof, and I thought my 200 might be a little in front and indded it was. Went from +3 to +5 and now it's back to it's insanely sharp self.

The distribution of oof ratio from front to back varies with focal length, with the 200 it is 49% front to 51% back, with a 20mm lens it is 40% front to 60% back.

So microadjusting should always have more in focus behind the plane of focus than in front of the plane of focus, just varying amounts depending on focal length. For ease of setup any lens 100mm or over is simplest set at 50/50 front back from the plane of focus.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on April 03, 2017, 10:37:01 AM
Went another round with my 200, and adjusted with tip from one thread here with the idea that both near and far dof limit should be equally oof, and I thought my 200 might be a little in front and indded it was. Went from +3 to +5 and now it's back to it's insanely sharp self.

The distribution of oof ratio from front to back varies with focal length, with the 200 it is 49% front to 51% back, with a 20mm lens it is 40% front to 60% back.

So microadjusting should always have more in focus behind the plane of focus than in front of the plane of focus, just varying amounts depending on focal length. For ease of setup any lens 100mm or over is simplest set at 50/50 front back from the plane of focus.

Isn't that highly dependent on focusing distance?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Sporgon on April 03, 2017, 10:38:30 AM
Went another round with my 200, and adjusted with tip from one thread here with the idea that both near and far dof limit should be equally oof, and I thought my 200 might be a little in front and indded it was. Went from +3 to +5 and now it's back to it's insanely sharp self.

The distribution of oof ratio from front to back varies with focal length, with the 200 it is 49% front to 51% back, with a 20mm lens it is 40% front to 60% back.

So microadjusting should always have more in focus behind the plane of focus than in front of the plane of focus, just varying amounts depending on focal length. For ease of setup any lens 100mm or over is simplest set at 50/50 front back from the plane of focus.

Interesting ! I thought it was always one third in front, two thirds behind irrespective of the focal length. Maybe this is why I have had poor success with the focus peaking and manual lenses at greater distances, where the purple 'peaking' zone is quite wide, but the actual point of accurate focus is within this - somewhere !
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: privatebydesign on April 03, 2017, 10:57:54 AM
Went another round with my 200, and adjusted with tip from one thread here with the idea that both near and far dof limit should be equally oof, and I thought my 200 might be a little in front and indded it was. Went from +3 to +5 and now it's back to it's insanely sharp self.

The distribution of oof ratio from front to back varies with focal length, with the 200 it is 49% front to 51% back, with a 20mm lens it is 40% front to 60% back.

So microadjusting should always have more in focus behind the plane of focus than in front of the plane of focus, just varying amounts depending on focal length. For ease of setup any lens 100mm or over is simplest set at 50/50 front back from the plane of focus.

Isn't that highly dependent on focusing distance?

Yes, as you focus closer the distribution shifts towards the front on all lenses.

As an example; FF camera, 16mm lens, f4, focused at 5 feet is 15%/85% front/back, at 4 feet it is 22%/78%.

Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on April 03, 2017, 11:02:51 AM
Went another round with my 200, and adjusted with tip from one thread here with the idea that both near and far dof limit should be equally oof, and I thought my 200 might be a little in front and indded it was. Went from +3 to +5 and now it's back to it's insanely sharp self.

The distribution of oof ratio from front to back varies with focal length, with the 200 it is 49% front to 51% back, with a 20mm lens it is 40% front to 60% back.

So microadjusting should always have more in focus behind the plane of focus than in front of the plane of focus, just varying amounts depending on focal length. For ease of setup any lens 100mm or over is simplest set at 50/50 front back from the plane of focus.

Isn't that highly dependent on focusing distance?

Yes, as you focus closer the distribution shifts towards the front on all lenses.

As an example; FF camera, 16mm lens, f4, focused at 5 feet is 15%/85% front/back, at 4 feet it is 22%/78%.

Great, thanks!  :D
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on April 03, 2017, 12:00:14 PM
Scott, goes to show you have to be careful with advice.  This threw me off until, after much frustration, I concluded by observation that it simply wasn't 50-50 and something was wrong.

In case anyone is interested in seeing the RAW files I provided according to Canon's instruction, here they are:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B2ySR23ld7gXRk8xVVdMMVlaNVE

I set the targets on 2" grid stucco wire for lack of any better solution.  My own 45 degree target is IMHO better but they didn't want it.  Mirror lock, remote release plus whatever they specified, with the objects close to filling the field.

I presently have the AFMA for 800mm at +3.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Harles99 on July 27, 2017, 08:06:48 AM
If you have to magnify the image to 200%, is it a problem? You can say 'it should not happen' which is fair enough but if you had to do this to notice the droplets - is it a problem?

Why do you need to use a telephoto lens in AV mode?

I tend to agree, especially after PBD has chimed in that dust and spatter generally is not that big of a problem.  I have quite a bit of spatter and in certain cases with some cropping it's showing.  Here is my shot of the sky (crop of the top left 1/4 of FF). 

I had oil spots on my 1D4 that I cleaned off using the VisibleDust kit for oil and I had to repeat many times, including purchasing numerous spare wipe sticks to get it half decent.  Not something I plan to do again since I'm not the steadiest guy.

Jack

I noticed oil spots on my 1DX MK II when using a 400mm F4 for Solar and Lunar shots. They either cleaned off or cloned/stamped off easily enough.

Canon 1DX MK II & Canon 400mm F4 DO + 2XIII @F16, ISO 640 1/160. Just sold off my 400mm F4 DO and picked up a 500mm F4 IS. Excited!
(http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/gallery/0/medium_379331-270717065305-169151.jpeg)[/url]
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on July 27, 2017, 01:09:52 PM
Boy I'd be excited too.  You'll love it.  So far my spots don't seem to be showing in regular photos so I haven't moved to do anything about them.  Probably will send the 1DX2 in before the year is up.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Berowne on July 29, 2017, 10:24:47 AM
1Dx II & 100-400L II. Nice combination.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on July 29, 2017, 12:25:41 PM
1Dx II & 100-400L II. Nice combination.

V nice detail.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on July 29, 2017, 12:52:38 PM
Nice job.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on July 29, 2017, 01:07:00 PM
1Dx II & 100-400L II. Nice combination.

Very nice picture. Well done.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Berowne on July 29, 2017, 05:31:55 PM
Thanks. Forgot to identify the bird: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_crowned_pigeon 
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: privatebydesign on August 27, 2017, 12:55:44 PM
I had a 1DX MkII set up as a remote at a concert yesterday. Here is a before and after of an image from the soundcheck. Now you might not like the processing, and I'm not sure I do, but I was particularly impressed with the real world DR as the sun is behind those clouds making their edges very bright and the back of the drummer couldn't be in more shade.

1DX MkII, 11-24 @ 11mm, f8 , 1/80 sec, 800iso.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on August 27, 2017, 04:28:07 PM
Interesting Scott.  I'm curious what choice you made relative to 11mm and the up/down angle of the camera.  Overall the 11mm perspective distortion doesn't seem too bad - is this cropped?  Great lens for fitting everything in.  Another question - how were you remote triggering?

Lots of detail in the shadows.  It almost feels to me like I wouldn't have lifted them as much but you know my experience is limited. ;)

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on August 27, 2017, 06:44:10 PM
I love the detail I can get in the shadows from this camera.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: privatebydesign on August 27, 2017, 08:23:28 PM
Interesting Scott.  I'm curious what choice you made relative to 11mm and the up/down angle of the camera.  Overall the 11mm perspective distortion doesn't seem too bad - is this cropped?  Great lens for fitting everything in.  Another question - how were you remote triggering?

Lots of detail in the shadows.  It almost feels to me like I wouldn't have lifted them as much but you know my experience is limited. ;)

Jack

Hi Jack, no it isn't cropped.

After playing around with the framing this looked optimal, lower and level made the drummers head/body too big in the frame, and angled down accentuated the frame/roof structure over the top giving the image a natural framing.

Remote is via the WFT Server functionality and the Ethernet port, I plugged the camera into the venues internet via a 50' Cat6 Ethernet cable that cost $15! I then controlled the camera via an iPad that was wirelessly connected to the same network. Up to three devices can connect at the same time via the built in WFT Server functionality, prior to the 1DX this used to only be accessible if you had a WFT dongle but now the cameras have an Ethernet port we have a wide range of choices.

Also I kept an AC adapter kit from one of my 1DS MkIII's so I don't have to think about battery life. This was my first play with the remote setup at a low key event and venue and I couldn't be happier. I wouldn't change anything for a more serious deployment.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on August 28, 2017, 12:29:19 AM
Interesting Scott.  I'm curious what choice you made relative to 11mm and the up/down angle of the camera.  Overall the 11mm perspective distortion doesn't seem too bad - is this cropped?  Great lens for fitting everything in.  Another question - how were you remote triggering?

Lots of detail in the shadows.  It almost feels to me like I wouldn't have lifted them as much but you know my experience is limited. ;)

Jack

Hi Jack, no it isn't cropped.

After playing around with the framing this looked optimal, lower and level made the drummers head/body too big in the frame, and angled down accentuated the frame/roof structure over the top giving the image a natural framing.

Remote is via the WFT Server functionality and the Ethernet port, I plugged the camera into the venues internet via a 50' Cat6 Ethernet cable that cost $15! I then controlled the camera via an iPad that was wirelessly connected to the same network. Up to three devices can connect at the same time via the built in WFT Server functionality, prior to the 1DX this used to only be accessible if you had a WFT dongle but now the cameras have an Ethernet port we have a wide range of choices.

Also I kept an AC adapter kit from one of my 1DS MkIII's so I don't have to think about battery life. This was my first play with the remote setup at a low key event and venue and I couldn't be happier. I wouldn't change anything for a more serious deployment.

Good thing you saved the AC adapter, new ones for the 1dx are like $850!
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on August 28, 2017, 01:18:20 AM
Thanks Scott.  Wish you were near to go shooting with!  So much to learn. :)

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: privatebydesign on August 28, 2017, 01:21:34 AM
Good thing you saved the AC adapter, new ones for the 1dx are like $850!

Yes you are 'limited' to 8 fps with the older AC Adapter Kit ACK-E4 as opposed to the full 14 fps with the designated AC Adapter Kit ACK-E19, but you can still get the older one from Canon for $130, and eBay has them for a lot less, glad I kept my genuine one though. And they used to be included!
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: privatebydesign on August 28, 2017, 01:38:42 AM
Thanks Scott.  Wish you were near to go shooting with!  So much to learn. :)

Jack

I'm sure I'll never stop learning too Jack!

Actually I did the gig, a two night seven act concert, as part of my local camera club. They are very active community  supporters and they get crazy good access to all kinds of events and venues, I highly recommend like minded camera clubs as a really good resource for getting access to enable people to try different stuff and build a portfolio. I know it won't work for everybody but for those it does give it a go, it really helps trying stuff out without any stress about the results.

I learnt tons of stuff about the, relatively new to me, camera, AF settings, ISO performance, what I like and what I don't like.

Anytime you and your wife fancy a birding trip to Florida just message me, we have a spare room waiting.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on August 28, 2017, 01:46:20 AM
Thanks Scott.  Wish you were near to go shooting with!  So much to learn. :)

Jack

I'm sure I'll never stop learning too Jack!

Actually I did the gig, a two night seven act concert, as part of my local camera club. They are very active community  supporters and they get crazy good access to all kinds of events and venues, I highly recommend like minded camera clubs as a really good resource for getting access to enable people to try different stuff and build a portfolio. I know it won't work for everybody but for those it does give it a go, it really helps trying stuff out without any stress about the results.

I learnt tons of stuff about the, relatively new to me, camera, AF settings, ISO performance, what I like and what I don't like.

Anytime you and your wife fancy a birding trip to Florida just message me, we have a spare room waiting.

You're too generous Scott!  Great advice that I will try to take since I really need more exposure to other peoples ideas, doubly so since my shooting buddy died a while back.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on October 14, 2017, 02:04:35 PM
Thought I should keep this thread going, lots of inspiration here :D

Couple of shots from today, just found a tree near a playground we were and got 5-6 shots before my Princess had had more than enough, lol.

1dx2+35 L II, Broncolor Siros 800 L to the left in a silver BD. Sun behind as edge.

Ps; Seriously, what was Canon thinking releasing the 85 f1.4 IS AFTER all the autumn colors are gone?  :o

Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on October 14, 2017, 02:09:04 PM
Wow. Great shots. Just looked that strobe up, pretty expensive.

Not to pry into your personal life, but do you always bring a studio strobe with you to the park?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on October 14, 2017, 02:13:33 PM
Wow. Great shots. Just looked that strobe up, pretty expensive.

Not to pry into your personal life, but do you always bring a studio strobe with you to the park?
Thanks!

Yeah, it's expensive, but I traded in my B1 and modifiers and got a REALLy nice price on a new Bron lamp, I had so much issues with Profoto (with the 1dx2) so upgraded without it costing more than two modifiers in between it was a no brainer :P

And, yes, I bring the light with me as much as possible, sitting at home it doesn't do all that much  ;D
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on October 14, 2017, 05:07:19 PM
Viggo,  surely it's not just your photography; that's one very cute girl with such a sweet smile!  Wonder what the future holds as she grows up (that's going to be faster than you like)?  Makes me wish I'd done more when mine were little.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on October 14, 2017, 05:45:17 PM
Viggo,  surely it's not just your photography; that's one very cute girl with such a sweet smile!  Wonder what the future holds as she grows up (that's going to be faster than you like)?  Makes me wish I'd done more when mine were little.

Jack

For sure! She’s my favorite subject to shoot. But she doesn’t like having her picture taken :P So I get the smallest of time frames, lol. The kids love to see pictures of themselves when they were younger so I use that, and candy, to talk them into a few shots.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on October 14, 2017, 10:27:46 PM
Lovely portraits. Well done, Viggo.   :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on October 14, 2017, 10:33:52 PM
Viggo,  surely it's not just your photography; that's one very cute girl with such a sweet smile!  Wonder what the future holds as she grows up (that's going to be faster than you like)?  Makes me wish I'd done more when mine were little.

Jack

For sure! She’s my favorite subject to shoot. But she doesn’t like having her picture taken :P So I get the smallest of time frames, lol. The kids love to see pictures of themselves when they were younger so I use that, and candy, to talk them into a few shots.

With her dad lugging a studio strobe out and about with him, I can understand why she resists taking pictures  ;)


Serious question: Do you bring a softbox with the strobe? If not, what is the advantage of that strobe (plus a light stand?) over using a Canon speedlight?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on October 15, 2017, 02:26:15 AM
Viggo,  surely it's not just your photography; that's one very cute girl with such a sweet smile!  Wonder what the future holds as she grows up (that's going to be faster than you like)?  Makes me wish I'd done more when mine were little.

Jack

For sure! She’s my favorite subject to shoot. But she doesn’t like having her picture taken :P So I get the smallest of time frames, lol. The kids love to see pictures of themselves when they were younger so I use that, and candy, to talk them into a few shots.

With her dad lugging a studio strobe out and about with him, I can understand why she resists taking pictures  ;)


Serious question: Do you bring a softbox with the strobe? If not, what is the advantage of that strobe (plus a light stand?) over using a Canon speedlight?

Lol, they’re pretty used to it, and normally I bring it, but we just play, and I’ll try to sneak in a couple of shots here and there, but get about 40 seconds so at least I’m getting better at getting it setup without a lot of testshots 8)

The advantages are power and quality of light. Stability in power and color is insane with Broncolor. It would take a boatload of speedlites to reach 800ws in HS.

But yes, I am using modifiers, I have a few, but my silver BD and a white BD are my favorites. I used to use the Profoto Magnum hardlight reflector I loved, but the one I have from Bron, called p70, is too small for my liking. It needs to be very close to give the quality of light I like.

BTS shot here, iPhone looks almost the same, right? >:(
Btw I shoot with the BD as close as possible, this is just to show the scene.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: canon1dxman on October 15, 2017, 09:47:17 AM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4445/23855840208_3f0c3d2e39_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Cm4qaN) (https://flic.kr/p/Cm4qaN)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90892306@N05/)

Stag Red Deer on a hazy Sunday in Windsor Great Park, UK
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on October 15, 2017, 09:48:25 AM
Stag Red Deer on a hazy Sunday in Windsor Great Park, UK

Nicely done.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on October 15, 2017, 10:32:23 AM
Stag Red Deer on a hazy Sunday in Windsor Great Park, UK

Nicely done.

Agreed, nice pop :D
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on October 15, 2017, 12:03:53 PM
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4445/23855840208_3f0c3d2e39_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Cm4qaN) (https://flic.kr/p/Cm4qaN)  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90892306@N05/)

Stag Red Deer on a hazy Sunday in Windsor Great Park, UK

He is looking intently at you. Hopefully you are far away  ;)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on October 15, 2017, 12:05:36 PM

Lol, they’re pretty used to it, and normally I bring it, but we just play, and I’ll try to sneak in a couple of shots here and there, but get about 40 seconds so at least I’m getting better at getting it setup without a lot of testshots 8)

The advantages are power and quality of light. Stability in power and color is insane with Broncolor. It would take a boatload of speedlites to reach 800ws in HS.

But yes, I am using modifiers, I have a few, but my silver BD and a white BD are my favorites. I used to use the Profoto Magnum hardlight reflector I loved, but the one I have from Bron, called p70, is too small for my liking. It needs to be very close to give the quality of light I like.

BTS shot here, iPhone looks almost the same, right? >:(
Btw I shoot with the BD as close as possible, this is just to show the scene.

Thanks for the explanation.

BD = Barn Door?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: R1-7D on October 15, 2017, 12:07:29 PM
How is everyone's sensors looking these days? Mine was filthy and recently had to have Canon clean it.

I noticed Arthur Morris has recently said he's completely 'soured' against the 1DX2 because of the sensor dust/oil issues and prefers to use his two 5D Mark IVs now.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on October 15, 2017, 01:08:34 PM

Lol, they’re pretty used to it, and normally I bring it, but we just play, and I’ll try to sneak in a couple of shots here and there, but get about 40 seconds so at least I’m getting better at getting it setup without a lot of testshots 8)

The advantages are power and quality of light. Stability in power and color is insane with Broncolor. It would take a boatload of speedlites to reach 800ws in HS.

But yes, I am using modifiers, I have a few, but my silver BD and a white BD are my favorites. I used to use the Profoto Magnum hardlight reflector I loved, but the one I have from Bron, called p70, is too small for my liking. It needs to be very close to give the quality of light I like.

BTS shot here, iPhone looks almost the same, right? >:(
Btw I shoot with the BD as close as possible, this is just to show the scene.

Thanks for the explanation.

BD = Barn Door?

Beauty Dish, the one you see in the BTS-shot  :) Use it a couple of meters away and the light is pretty horrible and uneven, use it up close and there is nothing nicer.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on October 15, 2017, 01:42:57 PM
Maybe I need to carry a BD around with me, help me look beautiful.


Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on October 15, 2017, 01:46:26 PM
How is everyone's sensors looking these days? Mine was filthy and recently had to have Canon clean it.

I noticed Arthur Morris has recently said he's completely 'soured' against the 1DX2 because of the sensor dust/oil issues and prefers to use his two 5D Mark IVs now.

My first year with it got lots of spots but I sent it off to Canon and it has been great for five months. Haven't really seen any spots, but I have been more careful with the body cap. Although now that I'm CPS platinum I'll probably send the body in twice a year just because.

Can Arty being an explorer of light actually diss one of Canon's products?
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on October 15, 2017, 02:36:41 PM
Maybe I need to carry a BD around with me, help me look beautiful.

I do that, I just hold it in front of my face, does the trick ;D
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on October 15, 2017, 02:37:50 PM
How is everyone's sensors looking these days? Mine was filthy and recently had to have Canon clean it.

I noticed Arthur Morris has recently said he's completely 'soured' against the 1DX2 because of the sensor dust/oil issues and prefers to use his two 5D Mark IVs now.

My first year with it got lots of spots but I sent it off to Canon and it has been great for five months. Haven't really seen any spots, but I have been more careful with the body cap. Although now that I'm CPS platinum I'll probably send the body in twice a year just because.

Can Arty being an explorer of light actually diss one of Canon's products?

Lucky me, haven't seen any spots ever, and clean now also. I have tried shootng f22 against the sky, see some dust, but no oil splatter.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Larsskv on October 15, 2017, 04:57:26 PM
How is everyone's sensors looking these days? Mine was filthy and recently had to have Canon clean it.

I noticed Arthur Morris has recently said he's completely 'soured' against the 1DX2 because of the sensor dust/oil issues and prefers to use his two 5D Mark IVs now.

I have done quite a bit if sensor cleaning on my 1DXII. It is noticably worse in that area, than my previous 6D and my 5Ds.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on October 15, 2017, 05:41:52 PM
I don't know if mine was oil, it looked more like dust.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: R1-7D on October 15, 2017, 06:28:51 PM
How is everyone's sensors looking these days? Mine was filthy and recently had to have Canon clean it.

I noticed Arthur Morris has recently said he's completely 'soured' against the 1DX2 because of the sensor dust/oil issues and prefers to use his two 5D Mark IVs now.

I have done quite a bit if sensor cleaning on my 1DXII. It is noticably worse in that area, than my previous 6D and my 5Ds.

Thanks everyone for responding on their experiences. Over at Fred Miranda there's a big discussion going on about the problem. It seems dust and oil definitely does accumulate more readily in the top left of the frame on these 1D cameras. Arthur Morris is another one to complain, as I said before, about the issue...which is quite damning given his notoriety.

I suspect more people don't notice debris accumulating on their sensors because of the type of work they do with this style of camera, choosing to shoot with their lenses wide open most of the time. I tend to use my 1DX Mark II as a "do everything" machine, so I immediately noticed the dust and oil accumulation.

I love the camera, but the maintenance gets me down, especially after having had my sensor scratched during a cleaning from a local camera store a year ago. Now I only let Canon clean my sensor, which means shipping the camera away. I shot all summer on my 5DsR in Europe with a total of three dust particles showing as a result. My 1DX2 looked like someone dropped the pepper shaker on the sensor.


Here's two shot from my 1DX2 and 11-24. The first is inside the Pantheon in Rome, and the other is of Neuschwanstein Castle . :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: R1-7D on October 15, 2017, 06:29:41 PM
Thought I should keep this thread going, lots of inspiration here :D

Couple of shots from today, just found a tree near a playground we were and got 5-6 shots before my Princess had had more than enough, lol.

1dx2+35 L II, Broncolor Siros 800 L to the left in a silver BD. Sun behind as edge.

Ps; Seriously, what was Canon thinking releasing the 85 f1.4 IS AFTER all the autumn colors are gone?  :o

Superb lighting! Really great work :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on October 15, 2017, 06:46:49 PM
Thought I should keep this thread going, lots of inspiration here :D

Couple of shots from today, just found a tree near a playground we were and got 5-6 shots before my Princess had had more than enough, lol.

1dx2+35 L II, Broncolor Siros 800 L to the left in a silver BD. Sun behind as edge.

Ps; Seriously, what was Canon thinking releasing the 85 f1.4 IS AFTER all the autumn colors are gone?  :o

Superb lighting! Really great work :)

Thanks a lot! :) the Bron lamp made it fun again after all the struggles I had with B1.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on October 15, 2017, 08:21:19 PM
How is everyone's sensors looking these days? Mine was filthy and recently had to have Canon clean it.

I noticed Arthur Morris has recently said he's completely 'soured' against the 1DX2 because of the sensor dust/oil issues and prefers to use his two 5D Mark IVs now.

My first year with it got lots of spots but I sent it off to Canon and it has been great for five months. Haven't really seen any spots, but I have been more careful with the body cap. Although now that I'm CPS platinum I'll probably send the body in twice a year just because.

Can Arty being an explorer of light actually diss one of Canon's products?

Lucky me, haven't seen any spots ever, and clean now also. I have tried shootng f22 against the sky, see some dust, but no oil splatter.

When Artie was ranting I sent him my sample which showed what to me was obviously fine oil spatter in, I believe, the upper LH corner only.  Canon denied there was oil and said I'd have to pay for cleaning. Scott (PBD) has commented that there is too much made of minor spots and so I just kind of put it out of my mind since I have yet to see spots in my real life shots up to about 30k now.  To me Artie was just trying to get a new camera to sell it off and I didn't really find that to my liking. 

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: privatebydesign on October 15, 2017, 08:32:40 PM
Arthur Morris isn't a Canon Explorer of Light and hasn't been for a few years when they had a clearcut and refocused on more dynamic photographers and videographers. Not sure I am overly keen on many of the new batch but as they included Gregory Heisler I can forgive them a few social media personalities.

And yes, as Jack says far too often we make too much of too little. In a previous thread I linked to I pointed out the real issues that sensor splatter can be. https://garypoulton.com/tag/nikon-d600-sensor-problems/

My 2 1DX MkII's are pretty much the norm for the 1series DSLR's I have owned, they need cleaning every now and again, so I clean them!
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: ethanz on October 15, 2017, 09:34:43 PM
I take advantage of the CMS with free to and from shipping. I just looked at an image I took recently at f22 and I see the dust has returned... Probably send it off next month.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: R1-7D on October 15, 2017, 11:25:13 PM

And yes, as Jack says far too often we make too much of too little. In a previous thread I linked to I pointed out the real issues that sensor splatter can be. https://garypoulton.com/tag/nikon-d600-sensor-problems/



Some of the shots over at Fred Miranda's are actually that bad.

I'd post the gif made by therealthings of his loaner 1DX2's sensor, but I am not sure how to do it on here.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: R1-7D on October 15, 2017, 11:31:59 PM
How is everyone's sensors looking these days? Mine was filthy and recently had to have Canon clean it.

I noticed Arthur Morris has recently said he's completely 'soured' against the 1DX2 because of the sensor dust/oil issues and prefers to use his two 5D Mark IVs now.

My first year with it got lots of spots but I sent it off to Canon and it has been great for five months. Haven't really seen any spots, but I have been more careful with the body cap. Although now that I'm CPS platinum I'll probably send the body in twice a year just because.

Can Arty being an explorer of light actually diss one of Canon's products?

Lucky me, haven't seen any spots ever, and clean now also. I have tried shootng f22 against the sky, see some dust, but no oil splatter.

  To me Artie was just trying to get a new camera to sell it off and I didn't really find that to my liking. 

Jack

I think that's kind of harsh. I mean, if the guy isn't affiliated directly with Canon anymore and his camera is indeed acting up, I don't think he's in the wrong to show other users what his situation is. I've gone through everything he's posted with regards to the issue and he has always seemed very forth coming. Wanting Canon to replace something that's faulty doesn't seem to be an unfair expectation.

Furthermore, in the last post where he mentions the 1DX2 he indicates that he still owns it; it just isn't getting the use it used to because he became "soured" from his experience, and because he prefers the lighter 5DIVs for handling.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: R1-7D on October 15, 2017, 11:49:43 PM
Just so we also keep on topic of photos taken with the 1DX2, here's another shot. :)

Moraine Lake in Banff National Park. Again with the 11-24mm f/4L. I have to say, it's my favourite lens, but not an easy one to use.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on October 16, 2017, 12:11:52 AM
How is everyone's sensors looking these days? Mine was filthy and recently had to have Canon clean it.

I noticed Arthur Morris has recently said he's completely 'soured' against the 1DX2 because of the sensor dust/oil issues and prefers to use his two 5D Mark IVs now.

My first year with it got lots of spots but I sent it off to Canon and it has been great for five months. Haven't really seen any spots, but I have been more careful with the body cap. Although now that I'm CPS platinum I'll probably send the body in twice a year just because.

Can Arty being an explorer of light actually diss one of Canon's products?

Lucky me, haven't seen any spots ever, and clean now also. I have tried shootng f22 against the sky, see some dust, but no oil splatter.

  To me Artie was just trying to get a new camera to sell it off and I didn't really find that to my liking. 

Jack

I think that's kind of harsh. I mean, if the guy isn't affiliated directly with Canon anymore and his camera is indeed acting up, I don't think he's in the wrong to show other users what his situation is. I've gone through everything he's posted with regards to the issue and he has always seemed very forth coming. Wanting Canon to replace something that's faulty doesn't seem to be an unfair expectation.

Furthermore, in the last post where he mentions the 1DX2 he indicates that he still owns in; it just isn't getting the use it used to because he became "soured" from his experience, and because he prefers the lighter 5DIVs for handling.

I stand to be corrected.  I know he stated that when it was replaced he would sell it but I'm not going to dig to find the comment because it's not worthy of extra effort.  Perhaps it sounds a little harsh but as I understand it there was nothing really wrong with the camera other than the dirty sensor and I didn't sense he wanted it cleaned and then that would settle the issue.  I must have missed in what other way it was acting up.  Indeed, if mine was seriously acting up and within warranty I might wish it would be replaced but I'm afraid I'd have to settle for it being properly repaired.  Soured; yes that's exactly what I gathered.

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Jack Douglas on October 16, 2017, 12:27:41 AM
Yes, returning to the topic.  I am not an experienced landscape photographer so am reluctant but here is one from northern BC.  It's also 11-24 @11.

Embarrassing, correction, I forgot this was taken with the 6D, being two years ago!

Jack
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Click on October 16, 2017, 09:46:05 AM
Just so we also keep on topic of photos taken with the 1DX2, here's another shot. :)

Moraine Lake in Banff National Park. Again with the 11-24mm f/4L. I have to say, it's my favourite lens, but not an easy one to use.

Beautiful shot. Lovely reflections  8)   Well done, R1-7D.
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on October 16, 2017, 10:12:43 AM
Just so we also keep on topic of photos taken with the 1DX2, here's another shot. :)

Moraine Lake in Banff National Park. Again with the 11-24mm f/4L. I have to say, it's my favourite lens, but not an easy one to use.

Very nice! Love the colors :D
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: R1-7D on October 21, 2017, 08:27:27 PM
Just so we also keep on topic of photos taken with the 1DX2, here's another shot. :)

Moraine Lake in Banff National Park. Again with the 11-24mm f/4L. I have to say, it's my favourite lens, but not an easy one to use.

Very nice! Love the colors :D

Thank you! That was the only little bit of light that poked through for sunrise and then the clouds took over again.

I also have a nice four minute long exposure taken with my 5DsR of the lake too. It's a very picturesque place! :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: R1-7D on October 21, 2017, 08:28:59 PM
Just so we also keep on topic of photos taken with the 1DX2, here's another shot. :)

Moraine Lake in Banff National Park. Again with the 11-24mm f/4L. I have to say, it's my favourite lens, but not an easy one to use.

Beautiful shot. Lovely reflections  8)   Well done, R1-7D.

Thanks! I appreciate the comment. I made it just in time for the brief light poking through. As soon as I arrived at the lake I slipped and fell walking along its edge because it was pitch black out and I couldn't see where I was going. I hurt my knee pretty badly and almost quit for the day right then and there. Glad I didn't. :)
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: scottkinfw on October 22, 2017, 02:00:27 AM
Just so we also keep on topic of photos taken with the 1DX2, here's another shot. :)

Moraine Lake in Banff National Park. Again with the 11-24mm f/4L. I have to say, it's my favourite lens, but not an easy one to use.

Beautiful

Scott
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: R1-7D on November 02, 2017, 07:55:49 PM
Just so we also keep on topic of photos taken with the 1DX2, here's another shot. :)

Moraine Lake in Banff National Park. Again with the 11-24mm f/4L. I have to say, it's my favourite lens, but not an easy one to use.

Beautiful

Scott

Thank you, Scott!
Title: Re: Anything Shot with a 1Dx mark II
Post by: Viggo on November 19, 2017, 01:08:56 PM
Hi!

I'm trying something I haven't tried before. Luminosity masks. I tried to give this image sort of a matte, cinematic look. I don't know if it looks right, but at least I got it looking the way I intended, lol.


Just a quick snap on the way from soccer.
1dx2+35 L II, One Broncolor Siros 800 L in a P70 reflector just outside the tunnel on the right side.
f1.4, iso 100, 1/4000s

(http://photobyviggo.com/CR/a.lu.fb2.jpg)