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Title: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jopa on September 27, 2016, 12:01:45 PM
Have anybody had a chance to deal with Delkin Devices CFast cards? They are twice cheaper than Sandisk / Lexar, but I'm wondering how good are they in a long run?
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: LordofTackle on September 27, 2016, 01:01:58 PM
I have no experience with them but I wouldn't try it out. Even the, officially supported, Sandisk cards had problems in the beginning, that could only be solved by some workaround (delivered per update). The only cards that work flawless so far, AFAIK, are the Lexar cards. I use those too. Maybe also the transcend cards (according to TDP).
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Cthulhu on September 27, 2016, 11:43:44 PM
Have anybody had a chance to deal with Delkin Devices CFast cards? They are twice cheaper than Sandisk / Lexar, but I'm wondering how good are they in a long run?

My 1dx mk2 came with a free 128gb Delkin cfast, in addition to the 65gb Sandisk. It is noticeably faster, the Sandisk doesn't give me the image corruption error some have run into, but the transfer rate on the Delkin is waaaay faster both in camera and on a card reader.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jopa on October 05, 2016, 07:46:43 AM
Have anybody had a chance to deal with Delkin Devices CFast cards? They are twice cheaper than Sandisk / Lexar, but I'm wondering how good are they in a long run?

My 1dx mk2 came with a free 128gb Delkin cfast, in addition to the 65gb Sandisk. It is noticeably faster, the Sandisk doesn't give me the image corruption error some have run into, but the transfer rate on the Delkin is waaaay faster both in camera and on a card reader.

I think the corruption happened with the original (v1) firmware and later Canon added a workaround for the SanDisk issue.

I also went ahead and got a 256GB Delkin for $299, so far so good (1 week usage :) ). No problems writing 4k 60p, no corrupted images. Hope it will last. Overall I think it's a good deal, and those cards should not cost more than a corresponding capacity m.2 drive. A 250GB Samsung m.2 is about $100, so $600 for a CFast card is a pure rip off.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on October 26, 2016, 08:36:12 PM
Jopa, I'm looking at buying a CFast for video and remembered your comments.  Has the Delkin been working out for you?

Anyone else tried Delkin at this point?

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jopa on October 28, 2016, 02:37:35 PM
Jopa, I'm looking at buying a CFast for video and remembered your comments.  Has the Delkin been working out for you?

Anyone else tried Delkin at this point?

Jack

Jack, it works very well. No issues recording 4k @ 60p, I didn't notice any dropped frames or anything bad so far. I guess it will last, but that's just a guess :) I'm still keeping the bundled SanDisk 64GB as a backup.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on October 28, 2016, 07:19:32 PM
Jopa, I'm looking at buying a CFast for video and remembered your comments.  Has the Delkin been working out for you?

Anyone else tried Delkin at this point?

Jack

Jack, it works very well. No issues recording 4k @ 60p, I didn't notice any dropped frames or anything bad so far. I guess it will last, but that's just a guess :) I'm still keeping the bundled SanDisk 64GB as a backup.

Thanks.  I think I'll buy one before heading out in the spring.

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: ianthem on January 03, 2017, 01:46:02 AM
http://www.biwin.co.uk/

I'm trying out these guys with my 1DX II that's coming in, the write speeds only go up to 280 MB/s, but that's still plenty fast and covers 4k60p.  I'll report back with their quality, seem to be a similar deal to Delkin & very good if you don't need to invest in getting something capable of 500 MB/s.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 03, 2017, 04:15:18 AM
http://www.biwin.co.uk/

I'm trying out these guys with my 1DX II that's coming in, the write speeds only go up to 280 MB/s, but that's still plenty fast and covers 4k60p.  I'll report back with their quality, seem to be a similar deal to Delkin & very good if you don't need to invest in getting something capable of 500 MB/s.

I assume USD quoted??  I'll be waiting for your feedback since I need them by spring.

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: leolol on January 04, 2017, 11:11:07 AM
I use these

amazon.com: goo.gl/YhV49l (http://goo.gl/YhV49l)

cheaper Transcend CFX600 (vs the more expensive CFX650) and they work perfectly for all resolutions on my 1dx2.
They are made with MLC memory which is cheaper but not as fast as tlc. Same goes for standard SSD's.


Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 04, 2017, 12:55:06 PM
I use these

amazon.com: goo.gl/YhV49l (http://goo.gl/YhV49l)

cheaper Transcend CFX600 (vs the more expensive CFX650) and they work perfectly for all resolutions on my 1dx2.
They are made with MLC memory which is cheaper but not as fast as tlc. Same goes for standard SSD's.

Thanks for that.  I assume I could buy from Canada but to check availability I went to Amazon.ca and .... check this price!!

https://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=256GB%2C+CFast2.0%2C+SATA3%2C+MLC  It never ceases to amaze me.

Jack

EDIT:  I bought 128GB for roughly $120 CAD at the time.  The price pretty much doubled within weeks when I decided to buy more, so I didn't.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 04, 2017, 12:57:00 PM
Remember, I'm a beginner, please. ;)  What is the difference between fps and p?

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Freddell on January 05, 2017, 02:16:39 PM
I use these

amazon.com: goo.gl/YhV49l (http://goo.gl/YhV49l)

cheaper Transcend CFX600 (vs the more expensive CFX650) and they work perfectly for all resolutions on my 1dx2.
They are made with MLC memory which is cheaper but not as fast as tlc. Same goes for standard SSD's.

MLC is much better than TLC. If you get MLC cheaper, be happy. For SSD, write throughout is 8x better on MLC. Read perf is similar.
Just try to copy a disk image to TLC and you will get it. Then u will understand that 95% online reviews are misleading.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jopa on January 10, 2017, 12:54:38 AM
TLC is the slowest with worst endurance:
http://www.speedguide.net/faq/slc-mlc-or-tlc-nand-for-solid-state-drives-406
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/flash-data-center-advantages,2-744-2.html
http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-slc-mlc-and-tlc-nand-flash.html

While the speed may not be a problem (370MB/s is still much higher than 800Mb/s), the endurance is quite important - I don't want my pics/movies to get corrupted one day :)
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Pascal Parvex on February 05, 2017, 04:30:47 PM
Remember, I'm a beginner, please. ;)  What is the difference between fps and p?

Jack

FPS stands for frames per second. P stands for progressive footage, i for interlaced. The latter is more or less no longer  used.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on February 05, 2017, 04:52:12 PM
Remember, I'm a beginner, please. ;)  What is the difference between fps and p?

Jack

FPS stands for frames per second. P stands for progressive footage, i for interlaced. The latter is more or less no longer  used.

OK, but it seems that fps and p are the same in the way they are used??

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jopa on April 14, 2017, 11:24:19 AM
Ok folks those Delkin Devices cards are garbage. $300 wasted, congrats to myself.
"Movie recording has been stopped automatically" getting this error every day, the card now can't keep up with the bitrate. Apparently it degrades over time pretty quickly.
DO NOT BUY!
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on April 14, 2017, 11:45:22 AM
Ok folks those Delkin Devices cards are garbage. $300 wasted, congrats to myself.
"Movie recording has been stopped automatically" getting this error every day, the card now can't keep up with the bitrate. Apparently it degrades over time pretty quickly.
DO NOT BUY!

That's too bad!  Thanks for posting this to help all CR folk!!

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jopa on June 22, 2017, 02:22:19 AM
Another update guys. Formatted the card and it's working again, no errors. Some people say all cards (even top brands like SanDisk) need to be re-formatted sooner or later. I personally never had this problem before, and I'm not sure now if the card is bad or not... It's still kind of a bummer if you shoot an important video and it stops suddenly when you less expect it. Maybe it makes sense to re-format the card every time before shooting an important event? Puzzled...
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on June 22, 2017, 02:50:27 AM
Thanks for the update.

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: hbr on June 22, 2017, 05:55:41 AM
Another update guys. Formatted the card and it's working again, no errors. Some people say all cards (even top brands like SanDisk) need to be re-formatted sooner or later. I personally never had this problem before, and I'm not sure now if the card is bad or not... It's still kind of a bummer if you shoot an important video and it stops suddenly when you less expect it. Maybe it makes sense to re-format the card every time before shooting an important event? Puzzled...

I format my cards every time I start a new photo session.

Brian
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: pwp on June 22, 2017, 06:25:39 AM
Another update guys. Formatted the card and it's working again, no errors. Some people say all cards (even top brands like SanDisk) need to be re-formatted sooner or later. I personally never had this problem before, and I'm not sure now if the card is bad or not... It's still kind of a bummer if you shoot an important video and it stops suddenly when you less expect it. Maybe it makes sense to re-format the card every time before shooting an important event? Puzzled...

I format my cards every time I start a new photo session.

Brian

Acknowledged best practice with CF & SD will certainly be the same for CFast. Format in-camera every time before a new session. Your image files from the previous shoot should already be downloaded and backed up.

You can cherry-pick from here:
http://tbexcon.com/us/2012/10/24/memory-card-best-practices-15-things-you-should-already-be-doing/
https://digital-photography-school.com/8-tips-for-maintaining-your-memory-card/
https://fstoppers.com/gear/95-tips-take-care-your-compact-flash-cards-2633

-pw

Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jopa on June 22, 2017, 10:15:44 AM
Interesting, thank you. I really never bothered to re-format my cards before.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Pookie on June 22, 2017, 12:38:27 PM
Interesting, thank you. I really never bothered to re-format my cards before.

Wow, it's the only way I "erase" all of my cards.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: ethanz on June 22, 2017, 12:51:23 PM
I bought the 128GB Delkin card and while I've only used it a few times, I have not had a problem with 4K video or images on it. I do re-format after every use/downloading images.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on June 22, 2017, 01:26:30 PM
Another update guys. Formatted the card and it's working again, no errors. Some people say all cards (even top brands like SanDisk) need to be re-formatted sooner or later. I personally never had this problem before, and I'm not sure now if the card is bad or not... It's still kind of a bummer if you shoot an important video and it stops suddenly when you less expect it. Maybe it makes sense to re-format the card every time before shooting an important event? Puzzled...

I format my cards every time I start a new photo session.

Brian

Acknowledged best practice with CF & SD will certainly be the same for CFast. Format in-camera every time before a new session. Your image files from the previous shoot should already be downloaded and backed up.

You can cherry-pick from here:
http://tbexcon.com/us/2012/10/24/memory-card-best-practices-15-things-you-should-already-be-doing/
https://digital-photography-school.com/8-tips-for-maintaining-your-memory-card/
https://fstoppers.com/gear/95-tips-take-care-your-compact-flash-cards-2633

-pw

Been carelessly doing bad things and getting away with it ... but not anymore, thanks.

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: raptor3x on June 22, 2017, 02:34:12 PM
Have anybody had a chance to deal with Delkin Devices CFast cards? They are twice cheaper than Sandisk / Lexar, but I'm wondering how good are they in a long run?

I've used the regular Delkin CF cards in the past with no issues.  My guess is that they're just rebranded Lexar cards like the Komputerbay cards.

One a side note, it looks like Komputerbay is selling CFAST cards now for 1/3rd the price of the equivalent Sandisk/Lexar. 

256 GB 3700x for $280, not much more than their regular CF cards.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Pascal Parvex on June 23, 2017, 09:23:49 PM
Remember, I'm a beginner, please. ;)  What is the difference between fps and p?

Jack

FPS stands for frames per second. P stands for progressive footage, i for interlaced. The latter is more or less no longer  used.

OK, but it seems that fps and p are the same in the way they are used??

Jack

No, they are not related.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on June 23, 2017, 10:25:01 PM
Sure would help to have an explanation suitable for a dummy. :)  I did look into this a while back and it didn't make sense to me, now I've even forgotten what I learned then.

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Bane on July 31, 2017, 07:14:57 PM
Another update guys. Formatted the card and it's working again, no errors. Some people say all cards (even top brands like SanDisk) need to be re-formatted sooner or later. I personally never had this problem before, and I'm not sure now if the card is bad or not... It's still kind of a bummer if you shoot an important video and it stops suddenly when you less expect it. Maybe it makes sense to re-format the card every time before shooting an important event? Puzzled...
Can you update us about video performance with this card? Do you have more problems now when you, I guess, format your card more often. Thank you.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Bane on July 31, 2017, 07:16:45 PM
I use these

amazon.com: goo.gl/YhV49l (http://goo.gl/YhV49l)

cheaper Transcend CFX600 (vs the more expensive CFX650) and they work perfectly for all resolutions on my 1dx2.
They are made with MLC memory which is cheaper but not as fast as tlc. Same goes for standard SSD's.
Have you tried 4K60p with CFX600? Does it work and do you have any issues?
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jopa on August 01, 2017, 01:11:02 AM
Another update guys. Formatted the card and it's working again, no errors. Some people say all cards (even top brands like SanDisk) need to be re-formatted sooner or later. I personally never had this problem before, and I'm not sure now if the card is bad or not... It's still kind of a bummer if you shoot an important video and it stops suddenly when you less expect it. Maybe it makes sense to re-format the card every time before shooting an important event? Puzzled...
Can you update us about video performance with this card? Do you have more problems now when you, I guess, format your card more often. Thank you.

So far so good. I still don't format it every time, but only before I need to shoot something really important. Every quarter should be also perfectly fine. No more errors while shooting 4k 60p. Seems like a decent card after all, especially for the money.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on August 01, 2017, 08:19:31 AM
Would someone be kind enough to look at this link:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00LL4QUX0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AUAODZIY13WRB&psc=1

It's much better if I buy from Amazon.ca (not .com) to avoid USD/customs involvement etc.

Not sure why they don't have 256 GB but I will inquire.  Thanks.

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: unfocused on August 01, 2017, 09:24:05 AM
Would someone be kind enough to look at this link:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00LL4QUX0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AUAODZIY13WRB&psc=1

It's much better if I buy from Amazon.ca (not .com) to avoid USD/customs involvement etc.

Not sure why they don't have 256 GB but I will inquire.  Thanks.

Jack

From what I can tell, (quick Internet search) the CFX600 was introduced as a higher capacity card and the CFX650 as a faster transfer rate card. It looks like the Transcend site no longer mentions the CFX600, so they may have been discontinued, thus the lower price. I do have one (64GB) and have not had any problem with it (so far). 
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on August 01, 2017, 12:08:33 PM
Would someone be kind enough to look at this link:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00LL4QUX0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AUAODZIY13WRB&psc=1

It's much better if I buy from Amazon.ca (not .com) to avoid USD/customs involvement etc.

Not sure why they don't have 256 GB but I will inquire.  Thanks.

Jack

From what I can tell, (quick Internet search) the CFX600 was introduced as a higher capacity card and the CFX650 as a faster transfer rate card. It looks like the Transcend site no longer mentions the CFX600, so they may have been discontinued, thus the lower price. I do have one (64GB) and have not had any problem with it (so far).

Thanks for the comment.  Does this give 4k 60p capability and does it appear to be a worth grabbing price or are there other similar value options.  Is 128 too small to bother with or would 2 X 128 still be worthwhile.  Right now I'm in the experimental phase and don't know a whole lot, as must be obvious. ;)

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on August 01, 2017, 12:13:08 PM
This on the Biwin site: 

Welcome to BiWin. Our cards are currently limited edition due to their great popularity. Please email lee@biwin.co.uk to enquire as to whether we can fulfill your order in the timeframe you require. Thanks so much for your patience. 🙂
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: ERHP on August 01, 2017, 03:00:41 PM
I've been using the Delkin CFast 2.0 256GB cards since about two months after I got my 1DX MK II.  So far zero issues.  If you are in SoCal, you can visit their plant in Poway, CA. 
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: unfocused on August 01, 2017, 04:34:04 PM
Thanks for the comment.  Does this give 4k 60p capability and does it appear to be a worth grabbing price or are there other similar value options.  Is 128 too small to bother with or would 2 X 128 still be worthwhile.  Right now I'm in the experimental phase and don't know a whole lot, as must be obvious. ;)

Jack

I really don't know, I only use my 1DX II for stills and it is adequate for that.

This is the article I found from the time when the cards were first introduced:
https://www.eteknix.com/transcend-introduces-the-cfast-2-0-cfx650600-memory-cards-for-4k-video-recordings/ (https://www.eteknix.com/transcend-introduces-the-cfast-2-0-cfx650600-memory-cards-for-4k-video-recordings/)

As I said, I think they discontinued the 600 model and I suspect the lower prices are the result of dealers clearing out their stock.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on August 01, 2017, 06:44:47 PM
Thanks for the comment.  Does this give 4k 60p capability and does it appear to be a worth grabbing price or are there other similar value options.  Is 128 too small to bother with or would 2 X 128 still be worthwhile.  Right now I'm in the experimental phase and don't know a whole lot, as must be obvious. ;)

Jack

I really don't know, I only use my 1DX II for stills and it is adequate for that.

This is the article I found from the time when the cards were first introduced:
https://www.eteknix.com/transcend-introduces-the-cfast-2-0-cfx650600-memory-cards-for-4k-video-recordings/ (https://www.eteknix.com/transcend-introduces-the-cfast-2-0-cfx650600-memory-cards-for-4k-video-recordings/)

As I said, I think they discontinued the 600 model and I suspect the lower prices are the result of dealers clearing out their stock.

Thanks. They responded with a definite no to 4k60 but wrote nothing more.  Googled and read and it sounds like 4k30 would be OK.  Is roughly $105 USD a decent price for just a second card (128 GB) for the Cfast slot?  Any suggestion on a good performing but not overly expensive CF card?  With the 6D I lived in the SD realm so now only have a friends 8GB card and like you I've traditionally shot stills but what a shame not to do some video.

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Cthulhu on August 01, 2017, 09:12:57 PM
Thanks for the comment.  Does this give 4k 60p capability and does it appear to be a worth grabbing price or are there other similar value options.  Is 128 too small to bother with or would 2 X 128 still be worthwhile.  Right now I'm in the experimental phase and don't know a whole lot, as must be obvious. ;)

Jack

I really don't know, I only use my 1DX II for stills and it is adequate for that.

This is the article I found from the time when the cards were first introduced:
https://www.eteknix.com/transcend-introduces-the-cfast-2-0-cfx650600-memory-cards-for-4k-video-recordings/ (https://www.eteknix.com/transcend-introduces-the-cfast-2-0-cfx650600-memory-cards-for-4k-video-recordings/)

As I said, I think they discontinued the 600 model and I suspect the lower prices are the result of dealers clearing out their stock.

Thanks. They responded with a definite no to 4k60 but wrote nothing more.  Googled and read and it sounds like 4k30 would be OK.  Is roughly $105 USD a decent price for just a second card (128 GB) for the Cfast slot?  Any suggestion on a good performing but not overly expensive CF card?  With the 6D I lived in the SD realm so now only have a friends 8GB card and like you I've traditionally shot stills but what a shame not to do some video.

Jack

For stills? Sounds like a bargain to me. These things run at $300 +or-
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on August 02, 2017, 12:36:10 AM
Thanks for the comment.  Does this give 4k 60p capability and does it appear to be a worth grabbing price or are there other similar value options.  Is 128 too small to bother with or would 2 X 128 still be worthwhile.  Right now I'm in the experimental phase and don't know a whole lot, as must be obvious. ;)

Jack

I really don't know, I only use my 1DX II for stills and it is adequate for that.

This is the article I found from the time when the cards were first introduced:
https://www.eteknix.com/transcend-introduces-the-cfast-2-0-cfx650600-memory-cards-for-4k-video-recordings/ (https://www.eteknix.com/transcend-introduces-the-cfast-2-0-cfx650600-memory-cards-for-4k-video-recordings/)

As I said, I think they discontinued the 600 model and I suspect the lower prices are the result of dealers clearing out their stock.

Thanks. They responded with a definite no to 4k60 but wrote nothing more.  Googled and read and it sounds like 4k30 would be OK.  Is roughly $105 USD a decent price for just a second card (128 GB) for the Cfast slot?  Any suggestion on a good performing but not overly expensive CF card?  With the 6D I lived in the SD realm so now only have a friends 8GB card and like you I've traditionally shot stills but what a shame not to do some video.

Jack

For stills? Sounds like a bargain to me. These things run at $300 +or-

As mentioned, no previous CF or Cfast experience.  I'm thinking rather than spending on a bigger (maybe 128) CF this could be a cheaper option and still give me the same capacity??  Would there be any trade off?  I'm guessing the CFX600 cards they are selling are discontinued.

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Cthulhu on August 02, 2017, 12:51:53 AM
Thanks for the comment.  Does this give 4k 60p capability and does it appear to be a worth grabbing price or are there other similar value options.  Is 128 too small to bother with or would 2 X 128 still be worthwhile.  Right now I'm in the experimental phase and don't know a whole lot, as must be obvious. ;)

Jack

I really don't know, I only use my 1DX II for stills and it is adequate for that.

This is the article I found from the time when the cards were first introduced:
https://www.eteknix.com/transcend-introduces-the-cfast-2-0-cfx650600-memory-cards-for-4k-video-recordings/ (https://www.eteknix.com/transcend-introduces-the-cfast-2-0-cfx650600-memory-cards-for-4k-video-recordings/)

As I said, I think they discontinued the 600 model and I suspect the lower prices are the result of dealers clearing out their stock.

Thanks. They responded with a definite no to 4k60 but wrote nothing more.  Googled and read and it sounds like 4k30 would be OK.  Is roughly $105 USD a decent price for just a second card (128 GB) for the Cfast slot?  Any suggestion on a good performing but not overly expensive CF card?  With the 6D I lived in the SD realm so now only have a friends 8GB card and like you I've traditionally shot stills but what a shame not to do some video.

Jack

For stills? Sounds like a bargain to me. These things run at $300 +or-

As mentioned, no previous CF or Cfast experience.  I'm thinking rather than spending on a bigger (maybe 128) CF this could be a cheaper option and still give me the same capacity??  Would there be any trade off?  I'm guessing the CFX600 cards they are selling are discontinued.

Jack

No trade off, on the 1dx mk2 cfast is the way to go. It'll open up your fps to 14 - it's limited to 12 on CF - and the buffer so that you never have to worry about it. I started shooting action sequences as raw + jpeg and it's made my life so much easier, I almost always have a decent file immediately and it made culling infinitely faster.
I honestly don't understand why they don't offer a 2 cfast option, at least as an upgrade.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on August 02, 2017, 12:54:28 AM
Cthulhu, when you record both, I thought it slowed to 12??  If not I like that idea.

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Cthulhu on August 02, 2017, 10:41:13 AM
Cthulhu, when you record both, I thought it slowed to 12??  If not I like that idea.

Jack

Yes, that is why I'm mind blown that to this day you can't have two cfast slots.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: ethanz on January 13, 2018, 05:43:59 PM
Just as note about CFast cards (may or may not apply strictly to Delkin): Yesterday I was shooting and had "Error 70" pop up on my 1dx2. Removing the battery did not solve the problem. I swapped the Cfast cards and that got rid of the problem for my shooting. However, the Delkin card I had in the camera still gives that error. According to their website, you need to do a "deep format" for not just their cards but other cfast cards too. https://www.delkindevices.com/fix-cfast-card-stops-canon-1dxmii-camera/ I'm trying it now and will see what happens.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: privatebydesign on January 13, 2018, 05:59:25 PM
Just as note about CFast cards (may or may not apply strictly to Delkin): Yesterday I was shooting and had "Error 70" pop up on my 1dx2. Removing the battery did not solve the problem. I swapped the Cfast cards and that got rid of the problem for my shooting. However, the Delkin card I had in the camera still gives that error. According to their website, you need to do a "deep format" for not just their cards but other cfast cards too. https://www.delkindevices.com/fix-cfast-card-stops-canon-1dxmii-camera/ I'm trying it now and will see what happens.

Sandisk have said the same about their CFast cards for years. https://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17370/~/cfast-2.0-full-format-and-refresh-tool
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 13, 2018, 07:22:53 PM
Coincidentally, just two days ago I noticed one of my photos displaying that funny piece of coloration at the bottom, like part of the photo reproduced in weird colors.  I believe it was in the card Canon shipped and not my 128GB Transcend.  First for me since my camera got the update early on.

I've been toying with getting a 256 from:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B017YOX6Y6/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB

Anyone have any info on these guys?

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: ethanz on January 13, 2018, 11:22:09 PM
Coincidentally, just two days ago I noticed one of my photos displaying that funny piece of coloration at the bottom, like part of the photo reproduced in weird colors.  I believe it was in the card Canon shipped and not my 128GB Transcend.  First for me since my camera got the update early on.

I've been toying with getting a 256 from:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B017YOX6Y6/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB

Anyone have any info on these guys?

Jack

Wow, Jack. That price is unbelievable. I've never heard of them though.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Talys on January 13, 2018, 11:37:24 PM
Coincidentally, just two days ago I noticed one of my photos displaying that funny piece of coloration at the bottom, like part of the photo reproduced in weird colors.  I believe it was in the card Canon shipped and not my 128GB Transcend.  First for me since my camera got the update early on.

I've been toying with getting a 256 from:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B017YOX6Y6/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB

Anyone have any info on these guys?

Jack

Yes, Super Talent is known in the PC industry for making decent quality, though second-tier, SSD drives.  They're in the same category as A-Data, with top tier OEMs being companies like Samsung, Intel, and Crucial.  If you check reviews of their SSD products, you'll see that they're generally quite favorable, and they're a little cheaper than big name brands. 

Around 2015, I purchased a couple of Super Talent SSDs just because they were amazingly priced from some distributor, and they haven't had any issues.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 13, 2018, 11:43:00 PM
I've been ever so close on that card and am watching the price.  I did read whatever I could find and it seems a worthy gamble.  If I get it I'll post.

Jack
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Cthulhu on January 16, 2018, 07:00:12 PM
Coincidentally, just two days ago I noticed one of my photos displaying that funny piece of coloration at the bottom, like part of the photo reproduced in weird colors.  I believe it was in the card Canon shipped and not my 128GB Transcend.  First for me since my camera got the update early on.

I've been toying with getting a 256 from:

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B017YOX6Y6/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB

Anyone have any info on these guys?

Jack

Yes, Super Talent is known in the PC industry for making decent quality, though second-tier, SSD drives.  They're in the same category as A-Data, with top tier OEMs being companies like Samsung, Intel, and Crucial.  If you check reviews of their SSD products, you'll see that they're generally quite favorable, and they're a little cheaper than big name brands. 

Around 2015, I purchased a couple of Super Talent SSDs just because they were amazingly priced from some distributor, and they haven't had any issues.

This is cheap because it's lower quality/speed. Might be enough for 1dxmk2 requirements, but will drop frames if used with a pro video camera. Some cfast cards are no faster than a cf card.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: jolyonralph on January 16, 2018, 07:32:58 PM
This is cheap because it's lower quality/speed. Might be enough for 1dxmk2 requirements, but will drop frames if used with a pro video camera. Some cfast cards are no faster than a cf card.

That's a CFast 1 card, not a CFast 2.0 card.

It may still be faster than the equivalent Compact Flash card though.
Title: Re: Cheap CFast 2.0 Cards
Post by: Jack Douglas on January 16, 2018, 10:24:41 PM
This is cheap because it's lower quality/speed. Might be enough for 1dxmk2 requirements, but will drop frames if used with a pro video camera. Some cfast cards are no faster than a cf card.

That's a CFast 1 card, not a CFast 2.0 card.

It may still be faster than the equivalent Compact Flash card though.

I'm pretty clueless on memory but the Transend CFX600 128 GB I bought really cheap does 4K60 when it wasn't supposed to so maybe there is a fair amount of variation.  It was a better deal than a fast CF and faster, I'm sure.

Jack