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Title: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: langdonb on February 08, 2018, 07:50:06 PM
Today for the first time I see advertisements on the front page of CR. While I understand a site owners right to profit from it's data base of subscribers, at least make the  ads relevant to the audience!

Really strange, now I cannot see the ads. I meant to do a screen shot, but did not!

Ok now i found it, it is on the page for new DGI Mavic pro II AND on every main announcement on the home page!

Sorry, I do not approve on this actions...
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: neuroanatomist on February 08, 2018, 08:02:18 PM
Ads are generally served from Google AdSense. What you see is linked to your personal browsing history, so if you don't like it........
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: langdonb on February 08, 2018, 08:07:29 PM
Ads are generally served from Google AdSense. What you see is linked to your personal browsing history, so if you don't like it........
Sorry, I visit this site every day and have never seen these ads..I block all google links and many others within my browser, but maybe something has failed there...
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: Mt Spokane Photography on February 08, 2018, 08:12:29 PM
Ads are based on web sites you have visited, and if you use Facebook, it may even include ads for sites your friends have visited.  You can clear out your cookies and then get randomly inserted ads that may be all photography oriented.

I strongly suggest that you educate yourself about how ads are directed based on your browsing history.

https://privacy.google.com/how-ads-work.html
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: ethanz on February 08, 2018, 08:12:57 PM
CR has had advertisements for years.
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: slclick on February 08, 2018, 08:24:10 PM
Mine are all Russian brides...as a married man living in the US of A I'm confused ;)
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: langdonb on February 08, 2018, 08:30:29 PM
CR has had advertisements for years.
Like this?
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: sanj on February 08, 2018, 08:31:00 PM
Ads are generally served from Google AdSense. What you see is linked to your personal browsing history, so if you don't like it........

hahahahaha. So true.
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: YuengLinger on February 08, 2018, 08:32:02 PM
Please, support sites by either donating or not whining about advertising.  For crying out loud.
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: langdonb on February 08, 2018, 08:33:30 PM
CR has had advertisements for years.

this is what I saw...
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: langdonb on February 08, 2018, 08:35:38 PM
Please, support sites by either donating or not whining about advertising.  For crying out loud.
So you would ask me or anyone to support the ads I posted?
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: langdonb on February 08, 2018, 08:40:46 PM
Here is the source of the ads I saw...nothing to do with me or my browsing, but the PUBLISHER who is compensated....
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: YuengLinger on February 08, 2018, 09:33:31 PM
Please, support sites by either donating or not whining about advertising.  For crying out loud.
So you would ask me or anyone to support the ads I posted?

You might try reading again what I wrote. Especially the part about whining.

Better yet instead of complaining, make some helpful suggestions regarding paying the bills to keep this site running.
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: ethanz on February 08, 2018, 10:34:00 PM
Please, support sites by either donating or not whining about advertising.  For crying out loud.
So you would ask me or anyone to support the ads I posted?

You might try reading again what I wrote. Especially the part about whining.

Better yet instead of complaining, make some helpful suggestions regarding paying the bills to keep this site running.

Yeah, with all the people that view this site, it probably costs a lot. I blame all these people who stay logged in 24/7 (I'm sure I'm missing a few):
ethanz, Click, neuroanatomist, hmatthes, Canon Rumors, bholliman, kphoto99, sedwards, YuengLinger, slclick, ahsanford, sanj, Talys, Mt Spokane Photography, Jack Douglas, ajfotofilmagem, Valvebounce, rrcphoto
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: Don Haines on February 08, 2018, 11:24:27 PM
I keep getting adds for retirement homes, and I have never searched for them.....

Does Google know something that I don’t?
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: slclick on February 08, 2018, 11:42:02 PM
Please, support sites by either donating or not whining about advertising.  For crying out loud.
So you would ask me or anyone to support the ads I posted?

You might try reading again what I wrote. Especially the part about whining.

Better yet instead of complaining, make some helpful suggestions regarding paying the bills to keep this site running.

Yeah, with all the people that view this site, it probably costs a lot. I blame all these people who stay logged in 24/7 (I'm sure I'm missing a few):
ethanz, Click, neuroanatomist, hmatthes, Canon Rumors, bholliman, kphoto99, sedwards, YuengLinger, slclick, ahsanford, sanj, Talys, Mt Spokane Photography, Jack Douglas, ajfotofilmagem, Valvebounce, rrcphoto
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: sanj on February 09, 2018, 12:04:53 AM
OP. Please do not get me wrong. I would prefer an ad free website. But how will that be possible?

And my response to Nero was in agreement that the ads being generated according to our viewing history. Not that I like the ads.

Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: Mt Spokane Photography on February 09, 2018, 12:43:53 AM
They are a way to help pay for the web site, and no matter where you go, those ads follow you. 

Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: Mt Spokane Photography on February 09, 2018, 12:47:47 AM
Logging on does not require significant computer power.  Doing searches, uploading images and videos, looking at topics with hundreds of pages of images, each of which must be rendered take significant CPU, but individually, its still not much.  When 10 thousand are using the site, it gets bogged down a little, the 1600 some logged in right now are not a issue.
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: hne on February 09, 2018, 04:18:34 AM
I keep getting adds for retirement homes, and I have never searched for them.....

Does Google know something that I don’t?

Yes. Both Google and Facebook extract significant information about you based on a combination of the data you voluntarily give them and information gathered from your internet habits. The easiest way for them to do this is to serve Like and +1 buttons all over the web. Then they can know which sites you frequent. They can also see from where you access these by doing geolocation on the IP used to retrieve those buttons. On top of that, both Facebook and Google record voice data from your smartphone unless you opt out. This is not expressly for purposes of targeting ads, but seeing how having a discussion on a topic you don't care about can make ads for that pop up next time you unlock your phone...

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if both Facebook and Google knew your full name, home and work address (I know google found that about me without me telling them), phone number, a few relatives and friends, main 5 interests, top 10 most likely favourite dishes, most common colour in your wardrobe, last 10 illnesses you've had and when, illnesses among your relatives and acquaintances (and could do pattern matching to figure out who has what from that), household income level, probability of you moving home in the coming 6 months, ...

All this without you telling them. Retirement homes ads? Not surprising a bit if they believe you're >60yo, your spouse is 55+, you've done searches for at least 3 age-related illnesses in the last 12 months and your probability of moving home in the coming 6 months exceeds 10%.

I get loads of generic ADs for how to get rich fast, unbelievable images from north korea and grow your own willie. But then again, I'm using a no-tracking extension called Ghostery that disables all like, share, +1 and similar buttons, as well as site statistics scripts, ad network tracking scripts and a boatload of other stupid things. And I've denied facebook microphone access on my phone and turned off voice search and voice history in my google prefs.
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: AlanF on February 09, 2018, 08:43:52 AM
Thanks for the tip about Gostery - now installed.
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: zim on February 09, 2018, 09:15:19 AM
I keep getting adds for retirement homes, and I have never searched for them.....

Does Google know something that I don’t?

Clearly not otherwise you would be getting adds for catteries ;)

Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: Canon Rumors on February 09, 2018, 10:48:18 AM
The MoneyWise issue has been resolved.

It costs thousands of dollars a month to host this site, plus the ongoing development costs. The new forum update that will be online soon will cost me thousands and thousands of dollars. Then the web site update will double that cost and it will never end. Web sites have to earn revenue. Sometimes a revenue stream turns out to be a bad one, but they are quickly removed, I don't like intrusive things on the site.

We've removed any sort of video ads, we've never had any popups or page takeovers, those are lucrative, but people hate them. Sometimes these things still slip through the ad networks, but that shouldn't be all that common.

With all of the copycat sites and on and on, revenue streams get smaller and we have to find new ways to bring money in.

There will be new revenue streams that are not intrusive that you'll see here over the next 6 months or so.
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: Mt Spokane Photography on February 09, 2018, 01:36:22 PM
I guess it was resolved before I tried, I only saw ads based on items I had searched for online. 

I mentioned my use of a cochlear implant in a post here yesterday, and today, there is a ad.  Its for a different brand than I have, and once you select a brand, you cannot practically change without $100,000 surgery, so the targeting is not perfect, or it would have listed accessories for my brand.
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: zim on February 09, 2018, 04:35:16 PM
Of all the sites I frequent the ads on this site don't annoy, this site is great whatever it takes to keep it going so be it. Thank you.
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: slclick on February 09, 2018, 04:48:07 PM
Craig,

What is your take on the link kickback such as the type Bryan at TDP uses? Is that sort of thing available/viable here?  Also I know it might be a touchy subject and you wouldn't want to venture into Ken Rockwell territory but a 'Tip Jar' of sorts? I have a hunch myself and many others who find this site invaluable would like to contribute.

B
Title: Re: CR's new unrelated advertising
Post by: Canon Rumors on February 14, 2018, 02:28:59 AM
Craig,

What is your take on the link kickback such as the type Bryan at TDP uses? Is that sort of thing available/viable here?  Also I know it might be a touchy subject and you wouldn't want to venture into Ken Rockwell territory but a 'Tip Jar' of sorts? I have a hunch myself and many others who find this site invaluable would like to contribute.

B

I have some plans that are a little less forward and I think may add value.