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Title: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: SpartanWarrior on April 04, 2012, 10:57:19 AM
Canon 5D Mark III: Product Reviews: Adorama Photography TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAtOxcJNoC8#ws)
Title: Re: 5D III.
Post by: BobSanderson on April 04, 2012, 06:43:44 PM
You might want to edit your subject and include Mark Wallace's name and AdoramaTV as they are probably both familiar to folks here. The video was v. intersting.
Title: Re: 5D III.
Post by: Bosman on April 04, 2012, 09:25:35 PM
That was a good watch, thanks. Same guy from Pocket Wizard tutorials.
Title: Re: 5D III.
Post by: Daniel Flather on April 04, 2012, 10:43:38 PM
Yes, he does a nice job. 
Title: Re: 5D III.
Post by: bornshooter on April 05, 2012, 04:34:34 AM
mark wallace top guy and he gives the best tutorial on youtube :FACT:
Title: Re: 5D III.
Post by: SpartanWarrior on April 05, 2012, 06:38:30 AM
You might want to edit your subject and include Mark Wallace's name and AdoramaTV as they are probably both familiar to folks here. The video was v. intersting.
Sorry fixed now;)
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: JR on April 05, 2012, 08:05:05 AM
Nice review.  thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: klf on April 05, 2012, 08:30:39 AM
As always Mark Wallace delivers!, Excellent review. Everything as advertised with the 5D Mark III has been superb for me.
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: Janco on April 05, 2012, 10:52:33 AM
I really like the fact that Wallace is not bringing up one single word that would state a biased comparison against a specific camera from some other brand. I think both cameras/brands have their place (yes slap me if you want) but I'm only interested to see what the 5DIII delivers. Of course, it's only my opinion... I don't know if he's brand-fanatic or not but I could imagine him as well talking about the good things that's delivered by the other brand. I guess that's kind of professional.
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: grahamsz on April 05, 2012, 12:07:28 PM
I really like the fact that Wallace is not bringing up one single word that would state a biased comparison against a specific camera from some other brand. I think both cameras/brands have their place (yes slap me if you want) but I'm only interested to see what the 5DIII delivers. Of course, it's only my opinion... I don't know if he's brand-fanatic or not but I could imagine him as well talking about the good things that's delivered by the other brand. I guess that's kind of professional.

Obviously he's working for Adorama here and it's not in their interests to have him pick and choose brands. Still I've always got the feeling that he's more of a Nikon guy, thought I can't really remember where I got that from.
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: Cropper on April 05, 2012, 12:18:20 PM

Is it just me or most of the pictures look kinda sooooft (even for straight out of camera unprocessed files)?

The higher ISO shots do look like a real improvement, but still no matter how much I try to like this camera I just can't shake that feeling that Canon could and should have done much better, especially considering that the Mark III will have a 3+ year life cycle.

The D800 clearly wins this round on my humble opinion.
I do hope Canon can overturn this with a high resolution body later this year or in 2013.
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: t.linn on April 05, 2012, 05:42:04 PM
I really like the fact that Wallace is not bringing up one single word that would state a biased comparison against a specific camera from some other brand. I think both cameras/brands have their place (yes slap me if you want) but I'm only interested to see what the 5DIII delivers. Of course, it's only my opinion... I don't know if he's brand-fanatic or not but I could imagine him as well talking about the good things that's delivered by the other brand. I guess that's kind of professional.

As others have pointed out, Wallace is working for Adorama in this instance.  I'll bet it would be hard to find a review in which he doesn't serve as a cheerleader for the product in question.  I'm not saying he's necessarily wrong in this (or other) cases.  However, I would actually attach more significance to criticisms given that any negative comments would be against self-interest.  I don't know what one can conclude from a lack of them.
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: t.linn on April 05, 2012, 05:48:33 PM
I do hope Canon can overturn this with a high resolution body later this year or in 2013.

I don't think we can assume that Canon has the ability to make a 36 megapixel sensor that effectively competes with the Sony sensor that Nikon uses.  What Nikon has able to accomplish with that sensor is pretty remarkable.  The fact that Canon has trouble besting it in areas other than resolution using a sensor with pixels that are half again as big is telling.  To be clear, I'm not trying to rip Canon here.  I'm trying to applaud Sony.
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: briansquibb on April 05, 2012, 05:50:26 PM
I do hope Canon can overturn this with a high resolution body later this year or in 2013.

I don't think we can assume that Canon has the ability to make a 36 megapixel sensor that effectively competes with the Sony sensor that Nikon uses.  What Nikon has able to accomplish with that sensor is pretty remarkable.  The fact that Canon has trouble besting it in areas other than resolution using a sensor with pixels that are half again as big is telling.  To be clear, I'm not trying to rip Canon here.  I'm trying to applaud Sony.

I think we can assume that Canon has the technology from its 100+mps demonstration with the APS-H in 2010
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: JR on April 05, 2012, 07:42:15 PM
I do hope Canon can overturn this with a high resolution body later this year or in 2013.

I don't think we can assume that Canon has the ability to make a 36 megapixel sensor that effectively competes with the Sony sensor that Nikon uses.  What Nikon has able to accomplish with that sensor is pretty remarkable.  The fact that Canon has trouble besting it in areas other than resolution using a sensor with pixels that are half again as big is telling.  To be clear, I'm not trying to rip Canon here.  I'm trying to applaud Sony.

I think we can assume that Canon has the technology from its 100+mps demonstration with the APS-H in 2010

I agree they most likely have the tech, the question is will they come out with a body with high MP in 2012-2013.  My guess is they will want to milk the cown on the mkiii and the 1dx first before leaking anything on the high MP body, to make sure buyers get the mkiii or 1dx first...just my gut...
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: Orion on April 05, 2012, 08:11:19 PM
btw, Mark Wallace uses Nikon and Canon systems. . . . primarily Nikon.
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: the-ninth on April 05, 2012, 11:08:36 PM
Hi Everybody,

My main concern with this "review" is that it comes from a shop that lives off selling us new equipment. The video consequently seems to me more like a sales show than a serious discussion of pros and cons of the new camera.

Don't get me wrong, I got the 5D3 the day it came out and love it. Coming from a 30D I trusted Canon to produce a solid camera that would be a quantum leap for me. But for users already owning more up-to-date equipment the decision is a much more complicated one.

So I find it hard to take a review serious that comes to the unconditional conclusion that the 5D3 is worth its money and everyone should go out and get one yesterday.

About mentioning the D800: apart from bragging rights, I don't think that to be relevant to most users. Switching systems is too big a step, the two cameras would have to be worlds apart to justify that for the majority of users. Comparisons to previous Canon models would be much more relevant. But again, they live from selling us the 5D3, not from telling us that if we already have model x and don't need feature z we can well skip it.

Cheers, Robert
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: D_Rochat on April 06, 2012, 01:03:02 AM
the-ninth makes a good point, but I still think it's one of the more useful 5D mkIII reviews I've seen.
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: DarkKnightNine on April 06, 2012, 01:10:12 AM
I really like the fact that Wallace is not bringing up one single word that would state a biased comparison against a specific camera from some other brand. I think both cameras/brands have their place (yes slap me if you want) but I'm only interested to see what the 5DIII delivers. Of course, it's only my opinion... I don't know if he's brand-fanatic or not but I could imagine him as well talking about the good things that's delivered by the other brand. I guess that's kind of professional.

To my knowledge Mark has never been brand specific. He has always given all brands equal and unbiased reviews. That's why I still watch him. IMO him, Gordan Laing from CameraLabs and Philip Bloom do some of the best reviews on the net.
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: DarkKnightNine on April 06, 2012, 01:17:25 AM
I really like the fact that Wallace is not bringing up one single word that would state a biased comparison against a specific camera from some other brand. I think both cameras/brands have their place (yes slap me if you want) but I'm only interested to see what the 5DIII delivers. Of course, it's only my opinion... I don't know if he's brand-fanatic or not but I could imagine him as well talking about the good things that's delivered by the other brand. I guess that's kind of professional.

Obviously he's working for Adorama here and it's not in their interests to have him pick and choose brands. Still I've always got the feeling that he's more of a Nikon guy, thought I can't really remember where I got that from.

I don't know where you would have gotten that from either as I always thought he was a Canon guy when I saw his earlier One-On-One videos before AdoramaTV. He always seemed to be using Canon camera and lenses but made it a point to include how you could do the same set up with Nikon cameras and lenses. Mark produced his own shows under the Snap Factory Brand and if I'm not mistaken still owns all the rights to his videos under that brand. He is not working "for" Adorama as much as working "with" them.
Title: Re: Adorama Mark Wallace Product Review Of The 5D III.
Post by: DarkKnightNine on April 06, 2012, 01:21:50 AM
I really like the fact that Wallace is not bringing up one single word that would state a biased comparison against a specific camera from some other brand. I think both cameras/brands have their place (yes slap me if you want) but I'm only interested to see what the 5DIII delivers. Of course, it's only my opinion... I don't know if he's brand-fanatic or not but I could imagine him as well talking about the good things that's delivered by the other brand. I guess that's kind of professional.

As others have pointed out, Wallace is working for Adorama in this instance.  I'll bet it would be hard to find a review in which he doesn't serve as a cheerleader for the product in question.  I'm not saying he's necessarily wrong in this (or other) cases.  However, I would actually attach more significance to criticisms given that any negative comments would be against self-interest.  I don't know what one can conclude from a lack of them.

I would agree that Mark is a bit of a cheerleader doesn't seem to have much (if anything) negative to say about any of the products he reviews. They always seem to be great for some reason. lol