« on: October 29, 2014, 11:37:34 PM »
10 grand for a body? No way. Glass? Yes.
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Maybe we are spoiled...however, maybe we are on the cusp of another revolutionary leap forward in IQ again. Ten years from now, we could be looking back at today, and saying the very same thing about noise levels today as we are about noise levels with film.
Yes, we have amazing technology today, and it's allowed for wonderful things. However, counter to "We have it great" is, we could have it better. And, we likely WILL have it better. Most companies are rocketing forward at lightning speed on all camera capability fronts. I know that Samsung doesn't have a great lens selection yet...but, YET. They have a 7D II killer on their hands (well, with the exception that the high speed 15fps rate is 12-bit RAW, which is kind of a Samsung killer ). All they really need is a great lens selection and a reliable support department. Those things simply need time to accumulate and build up.
Same goes for Sony...they are redefining a lot of the market today, and like Nikon, throwing out a lot of products to see what sticks (although I actually think Sony is doing a better job with product naming and whatnot than Nikon has ever done). It is, again, only a matter of time before Sony's lens lineup bulks up, and they have the benefit of Zeiss behind their glass.
Ten years from now, 14-16 stops of DR (maybe even as much as 20...there are already video sensors that do that with multi-bucket exposures) and ultra, ultra low noise, even at ultra high ISO settings, will be so common that we'll be looking at todays cameras like we look at film. For me, I honestly wonder if Canon will be a big player in that future. They may have lenses and support, but their products, technologically, are being matched or surpassed by even the likes of Samsung....
In the good old days of film, I shot a lot of Kodachrome64... When lighting was not good your options were to use artificial lights or stop taking pictures. My second body usually had a roll of "high speed" film in it... ISO400 or ISO800..... same problem.... loose the light and you go home.
My first digital DSLR was unusable at ISO800 and topped out at a very noisy ISO1600. Now there isn't a DSLR (or mirrorless) on the market that does not produce better results at ISO12,800 than film did at ISO800.... and the numbers are slowly creeping upward.
Last night I mounted a laser pointer on the top of my camera and tried taking pictures of the cats chasing the red dot. You could not see the red dot. I turned the lights down low and cranked up the ISO to 12800 and it worked very well. These are shots that were impossible before and I have come to accept this as normal.... so yes, I need high ISO....
I am very impressed with the Nikon D750. Yes, I believe this is a camera that could trigger a person to switch platforms. The thought ran through my mind for sure.
Positives: FF, Built-In WiFi, Dual SD card slots, Good AF, 24+ MP Sensor, 6.3fps
Negatives: 1/4000 shutter speed limit, Weather Sealing?
Neutral: Articulating Screen, Built-In Flash, ISO
This camera is going to be directly compared with the 5D MKIII as I think they are targeted for the same segment: Great all-around camera. The 7D MKII is a sports-shooter camera and APS-C. No comparison.
The 1/4000 shutter speed limit doesn't bother me. I checked my Lightroom database and found that shooting above 1/4000 represent .3% of all my images. Weather-sealing isn't a huge issue either. I simply don't expose my camera to elements that warrant it.
I did a couple of shoots lately which reminded me of how useful an articulating screen can be. Getting on the ground and using Live View without it is difficult. Using an articulating screen would be an enormous help and is enough for me instead of using a tablet and WiFi.
There are so many ways I can use this camera. I love my Canon 50D for it's speed and weight. I love the 5D MKII for it's FF sensor and color IQ. But they both have bad AF which is useful for events and sports photography I do. The fps equals my 50D which I find sufficient for sports. The sensor should be more than adequate for my fashion and portrait work. I love similar card dual memory slots. And at big events where there might be WiFi.. Uploading images in real-time and having someone edit and posting images in real-time?
All for under $2300.
The 5D MKIII wasn't enough for me. It's too expensive for what I get over the 5D MKII: AF & ISO No dual CF or SD slots and WiFi was a deal-breaker.
I think most of us would agree that the 5D MKIV is right around the corner. I'm going to wait to see what that looks like. If the MKIV has the features listed, I'm good and will go with that. I love the ergonomics and UI of Canon cameras. Not to mention the lenses and accessories available.
The only reason I really want a 1DX is that it can do everything I want to do. Unfortunately, even that doesn't have built-in WiFi and it's a $400 attachment. And that attachment looks like it may get in the way when shooting in portrait mode.
The Nikon gives me 85% of what I want from the 1DX. Buying a battery grip is a $400 option which then gets me up to 95%. I can certainly live without the crazy ISO and speed of the 1DX. At 40% of the price of the 1DX especially.
With the Nikon D750, it would certainly motivate me to eventually get a Nikon D810. Which is a superior fashion/portrait camera to anything Canon has right now. If the ergonomics are decent, I could live with the lesser UI from Nikon.
I'm going to try not buying any new Canon specific gear until I see the new cameras from Canon. Hopefully that should happen by early 2015.
The point was, that you can push a crop camera with the much maligned 18Mp sensor to the limits of the camera and still get a decent picture.
I have never put anyone down because of their gear or bragged about mine being better.
I took the identical picture with a 5D2 a couple moments later.... It was definitely a better picture. A better sensor will definitely give you a better picture, but unlike an earlier poster's claim, ISO200 is not the point of no return.
And yes, I hope that they do improve the noise on the 7D2 beyond what we have come to expect from Canon... We should find out in a week
Now, not to start a war, with price and specs considered (based on Internet reviews) the D7100 is also in the running.
Wait. What? You're shooting sports at 200? Ok first thing - those dudes are shooting 1600 because no one really cares about noise for sports. Freeze the action, in focus, get a face and a ball and worry about noise some other day. Second, I've shot a lot with a 40D and 7D and yeah they get noisy but not really noticeably bad until 800 at least. I gotta wonder if you might be expecting too much. Also, are you shooting with short lenses and cropping real deep? Because that'll amplify noise like crazy.