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Canon General / Re: Announcement: Canon EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« on: May 14, 2013, 01:58:58 PM »
Admittedly I would never want to spend this much on a single lense or piece of camera equipment
I would, if I only could... but I can't, so it's not going to happen  :(

...why for the convenience of having a built-in extender someone would pay so much for a relatively slow lense.
I wouldn't call the 400 f/4 combo "relatively slow", even if it was referred to a prime lens; I'd love a 400 f/4 IS prime. Being a zoom, I'd rather say the 200-400 f/4 is pretty fast. Price will drop considerably in a couple of years, anyway.

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Lenses / Re: Poll: Most Wanted New Lenses of 2013.
« on: May 06, 2013, 09:27:32 PM »
I voted for the 400mm F/4L IS USM. I have the excellent 70-300 L and would love a 400 f/4 which could be used with both the 1.4X and 2X TCs. I could sell it and go for the new 100-400 when it comes out, but the former option is much more attractive to me, though more expensive.

Other lenses I'd like: 14-24 (or 12-24, a patent exists!) and 50 f/1.4 IS

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« on: May 06, 2013, 09:22:41 AM »
:'(
I am guessing that getting the new 18 micron process thang is not going as well as they would like... The 7D mk II will probably be the first to be released using the new process, somewhere around 24 MP with ISO up to 102,400... probably the new 3200 ISO will be as good as the old 400 ISO...

Well, let's hope it's the 70D that's going to sport the new tech sensor first. It seems conflicting rumors overlap regarding this matter, probably because different prototypes are being tested, but I'm hoping for something really exciting, as far as sensor tech is concerned, for the camera that should become the direct competitor of the Nikon D7100.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 7D Mark II in 2013? [CR2]
« on: May 06, 2013, 09:00:46 AM »
Sadly, that's exactly the timing I've been expecting for the 7D2. I was hoping to be proved wrong. Nevertheless, this timing strongly supports the hypothesis that the next APS-C flagship will have a new sensor and, hopefully (but that's me, I'm sure most CR members are going to disagree), no more than 16-18 MP.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors
« on: March 20, 2013, 06:29:05 PM »
Hey CR guy, are you sure you didn't mess up a bit with numbers? I mean, apart from the 00-400, can you confirm the source said 70D and not 700D? Thanks!

edit:  you were typing your implicit confirms while I was sending my post...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS-b Images Leak & a New Kit Lens
« on: March 19, 2013, 03:06:54 PM »
I'm in the camp of those who don't agree with the ones complaining for this little baby. I mean, it has always been like that with Canon. Since this camera is probably intended as the new entry level DSLR, it is reasonable it's being equipped with the old 18 MP sensor. Think about this fact: the 1000D/XS (June 2008) had the 10.1 MP sensor previously adopted by the 400D/XTi (Sept 2006) and 40D (Sept 2007); the 1100D/T3 (Mar 2011) had the 12.2 MP sensor previously implemented in the 450D/XSi (Mar 2008), though higher density sensors had appeared meanwhile. In other words, as far as APS-C is concerned, this may denote the 18 MP sensor has reached the end of its life cycle. We may interpret this as a means for Canon to get rid of components they have in stock which didn't receive the marketing success they expected, as it seems it has happened with the EOS M, at least in the western market.
This may possibly imply we are going to have a nice surprise by Canon for the next crop DSLRs to come. We should be extremely happy about this announcement, even though not interested in buying such a thing, don't you feel the same?
Have a look at a couple of old posts by myself, I was suggesting exactly this kind of strategy by Canon:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=12606.msg225245#msg225245

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=13266.msg238582#msg238582

BTW, I'm expecting to see this little baby marketed in a variety of colors...
Cheers!

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PowerShot / Re: Canon PowerShot SX280 HS
« on: March 18, 2013, 01:46:14 PM »
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Digic 6??????

You mean I've got a 5D3, and I'm now out of date!!!!

Oh, Canon, what have you done to us!!!!!!
DIGIC6 ??

that would be great. but i guess it´s a typo.

Why not? Digic 5 was first introduced in the Powershot S100 (Dec 2011), if I recall it right. Correct me if I'm wrong, my memory's no longer what it used to be  :( . And Digic 5+ may likely be still better than digic 6. Maybe we'll see the Digic 6+ in the 70D and 7DII, who knows...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR1]
« on: March 14, 2013, 10:32:16 PM »
I guess Chuck Westfall of Canon got it wrong according to you. He says the higher voltage is the reason but maybe you are right.


Actually, CW says:

http://www.arihazeghiphotography.com/AH_CW_interview/

... In addition, the EOS-1D X achieves a higher lens motor drive speed with select L-series USM telephoto lenses than the 5D Mark III because of the 1D X’s more powerful battery pack.

He didn't mention voltage.

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Olympus OM series film cameras. Fuji X-100s to be added in the near future.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New DSLR Line from Canon? [CR1]
« on: March 13, 2013, 09:23:51 PM »
You're still missing my point! 

When you compare the OM1 to the OM-D EM5 (sidenote: why not just call it the OM-D1?), the additional thickness caused by the mirrorbox is not all that great.  The bizzare thing is that small differences in overall dimensions don't seem to be as important in determining bulkiness as other design factors.  The OM1 and OM-D EM5 aren't that much smaller than the Rebel, but they both appear to be so (to me at least) because of their cleaner lines.  With prime lenses and careful design DSLRs needn't be anything like as bulky a system as they currently are. 
Ah, now I get your point! I thought it was exclusively a matter of absolute bulkiness, but now it's clear to me it's more a matter of style and design. And yes, I would love such a camera from Canon, a retro styled APS-C or FF digital reflex. Actually I'm in for the Fuji X-100s, but a retro digital interchangeable lens Canon camera would be cool, many recent small EF lenses from Canon would fit it nicely. But you must admit your point was not that much evident in your original post. Maybe in a near future, when thinner OLED and compact sensor assemblies will be available, the thickness beyond the focal plane, previously being represented by the film and back only, won't grow too much, and such a camera may pop out, I'm sure it would be appreciated not only by you and I.

Perhaps Canon could make a smaller DSLR as a modular system (like the OM1 popularised back in the '70s), or even a modular  EOS-M series with hand/battery grip options and something like the Sony LAEA2 adaptor (with moving mirror and a pentaprism -go on Canon, take up the challenge!).  This latter option would be a good way of enticing EOS system users to buy into the EOS-M system as well: use EF-M lenses without the adaptor when you need maximum compactness, or swap in the adaptor, battery grip and EF(-S) mount lenses when you need performance (the elephant in the room is full-frame and whether Sony will make a full frame NEX stills camera...)

This, and our previous mention of batteries, made me meditate on a curious thing about grips, in that they first appeared as ugly, undesired but necessary bulges to house bigger batteries for the rapidly growing electronics and automation in cameras; I remember a well known italian photo magazine, in the pre-internet age, complaining for how uncomfortable the unusual feel of that "angulous" protrusion was. What can't be cured must be endured, thus hand grips evolved, and also the way we handhold cameras eventually, so today you have to purchase them as expensive accessories for those cameras which don't have an ergonomic grip (think of Leica) if you want to feel comfortable, because we're used to this feel which, indeed, is better. This is making a virtue of necessity, but don't you think it's a bit funny?

The comparison between the Rebel and the OM-D was made because I could find side by side comparison photos of them and I could also find side by side shots comparing the OM1 to the OM-D, but I couldn't find any shots comparing the Rebel to the OM1.  If you can find the latter, or are willing to photograph them yourself (assuming you own a Rebel), I would be most grateful if you could share the photo. 
Traveller, sure I can find an OM (except for the 4) because I've got the 1, 2 & 3, the problem is the Rebel, since the one I've got is the original one, the 300D (and this explains why I am interested so much in the forthcoming APS-Cs  :P), which is way larger and heavier than all the others from the 350D on, it wouldn't be a worthy comparison. Anyway, the link you provided shows them both, evenly scaled though not side by side, so a bit of cut & paste would do the job. Nevertheless, if you're interested in the unfair comparison anyhow, I'll be glad to snap the elephant and the gazelle side by side, it seems we share a common passion for this kind of stuff after all!  ;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New DSLR Line from Canon? [CR1]
« on: March 12, 2013, 07:33:39 PM »
I still have OM 1,2 and 3 bodies and winders and a few Zuiko lenses. With a few mods it could be possible to
reconfigure the winder to a battery pack and incorporate a sensor FF or APSC.

Zuiko 50 1.4 is still in use with an EOS adaptor
They're so cute, aren't they? I've loved them, especially the OM2 n. Since I had a lot of glass, I purchased the OM to EOS adapter more for fun than for real need; on a 5D II, the old Zuiko lenses, compared to L glass, are light years apart in IQ.

[OT] Digitalizing an old OM? Only if a digital back existed, I don't see such a metamorphosis as a DIY thing. [/OT]

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New DSLR Line from Canon? [CR1]
« on: March 12, 2013, 02:38:11 PM »

I said the OM-D is micro 4/3.

I've owned an OM 2n since 1980, then I added an OM 1n and an OM 3, many many Zuiko lenses and, over time, an insane number of accessories for the Olympus system. I've been shooting with them for 30+ years. I went for the Olympus system primarily because of the size and weight. I still have all of them, all in perfect order, I occasionally use them (actually the OM 2n, my preferred one), and I think I know them quite well. Still, I think you can't squeeze all the stuff needed for digital in an OM-sized body currently. Just as an example, an LP-E6 batt alone is about as thick as the OM body itself.

We're talking at cross purposes here, so I'm not going to continue down this road (I've culled the reply-counter reply chain, as it was getting ridiculous!).  You know better than most how small a 35mm camera can be made; do you not feel that the OM series feel more compact than the "Digital Rebels"? I can't see any reason why it would not be possible to make a DSLR this small (i.e. roughly comparible in size to the micro 4/3rds OMD EM-5).  I can understand your concern about the battery size, but I can't see that this would be any more of a problem with a DSLR than with a mirrorless body.  In fact, DSLRs tend to be less power hungry because they're not constantly running the sensor - LCD/EVF to provide viewfinding capabilities.
Traveller, maybe we're talking at cross purposes, in fact I've always ended agreeing that it is likely possible to further shrink a Rebel body, I've even edited the last post while you were typing to make this as clear as possible. But maybe not.  I do feel the OM series is more compact than rebels, that's doubtless, it's a fact. But, at present, an APS-C DSLR can't be as compact as a film OM or the OM-D, no way. You provided correct measurements for the flange-focal plane distances of the old OM system (46 mm)  and for EF/ EF-S (44 mm, in fact you can mount Zuiko lenses on EOS cameras with a cheap adapter 2mm thick), but you don't provide the distance for the OM-D, which is 20 mm, if I remember well. Therefore, in any case, at present the answer is that unfortunately it's NOT possible to engineer an EF/EF-S DSLR to make it as compact as, or comparable to, the OM-D. 24mm difference is roughly 1 inch, you can't put aside this fact. Don't feel offended, I insisted to make this clear, not to hurt you in any way.  :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New DSLR Line from Canon? [CR1]
« on: March 12, 2013, 12:56:36 PM »
To all those stating that Canon couldn't possibly make the "Rebel" series any smaller:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/omd-em5/omd-em5A.HTM

[scroll down to "Olympus E-M5 versus OM-1" heading]

That would be a "full-frame" 35mm film camera with an enormous pentaprism viewfinder and all the film transport gubbins (albeit, without the need for an LCD screen). 

Now compare:

http://camerasize.com/compare/#333,289

You're all trying to tell me that it's not possible to make a DSLR smaller than a Rebel? Pardon me if I don't believe you. 

[P.S. OM mount flange back distance = 46mm; EF mount flange back distance = 44mm]

The OM-D is micro4/3. With dedicated lenses. I don't think Canon will go micro 4/3 in a DSLR for now.

Nobody's trying to tell it's not possible to make a DSLR smaller than a Rebel, in fact this thread is about a new Canon DSLR smaller than a Rebel. On a side note, the original Rebel/300D from a decade ago was roughly as large as the current FF 6D... For sentimental reasons I still have the 300D, the "black limited edition", which was offered with the grip in bundle. It was my first digital reflex camera.


Did you take a look at the OM-1? I think you'll find that it isn't micro-4/3rds ::), yet it isn't a whole lot bigger than the OM-D EM5.  My point was, if you can make a 35mm film SLR similar in size to the OM-D EM5, you can certainly make an APS-C DSLR smaller than the Rebel.  Furthermore, it should be possible to make it without crippling the viewfinder or the handling (the OM-1 was no slouch in either regard).


I said the OM-D is micro 4/3.

I've owned an OM 2n since 1980, then I added an OM 1n and an OM 3, many many Zuiko lenses and, over time, an insane number of accessories for the Olympus system. I've been shooting with them for 30+ years. I went for the Olympus system primarily because of the size and weight. I still have all of them, all in perfect order, I occasionally use them (actually the OM 2n, my preferred one), and I think I know them quite well. Still, I think you can't squeeze all the stuff needed for digital in an OM-sized body currently. Just as an example, an LP-E6 batt alone is about as thick as the OM 1 body itself. But, again, for sure I agree that you can certainly make an APS-C DSLR smaller than today's Rebel, though not as small as the OM 1 or the OM-D.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New DSLR Line from Canon? [CR1]
« on: March 12, 2013, 12:19:28 PM »
To all those stating that Canon couldn't possibly make the "Rebel" series any smaller:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/omd-em5/omd-em5A.HTM

[scroll down to "Olympus E-M5 versus OM-1" heading]

That would be a "full-frame" 35mm film camera with an enormous pentaprism viewfinder and all the film transport gubbins (albeit, without the need for an LCD screen). 

Now compare:

http://camerasize.com/compare/#333,289

You're all trying to tell me that it's not possible to make a DSLR smaller than a Rebel? Pardon me if I don't believe you. 

[P.S. OM mount flange back distance = 46mm; EF mount flange back distance = 44mm]

The OM-D is micro4/3. With dedicated lenses. I don't think Canon will go micro 4/3 in a DSLR for now.

Nobody's trying to tell it's not possible to make a DSLR smaller than a Rebel, in fact this thread is about a new Canon DSLR smaller than a Rebel. On a side note, the original Rebel/300D from a decade ago was roughly as large as the current FF 6D... For sentimental reasons I still have the 300D, the "black limited edition", which was offered with the grip in bundle. It was my first digital reflex camera.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Information [CR1]
« on: March 12, 2013, 11:13:18 AM »
Wouldn't it be easy enough to modify a cheap extension tube (like this one on eBay) so that a osciliscope could be hooked up to the Vbat and A_GND contact to see exactly what voltage is driving the AF system for a given camera?



That might not tell you what's going on downstream between the AF electronics and the USM motor, but it might help to support the higher-voltage/faster-AF theory.  If the voltages for a 7.4V-based camera and an 11.2V-based camera are the same, then that theory can be put to bed.

Actually, after reading the nth post claiming "a higher voltage may likely drive the AF motor faster", "maybe Canon will develop higher voltage batteries..." "it seems there's still someone who doesn't get that a higher voltage..." and things like those, I gave up replying. But look at the figure above: Vbat and A_GND is the power line which feeds the lens' motors, and it's +6/-6 Volts in any camera. VDD and D_GND is the power line that feeds the logic, and it's +5.5/-5.5 Volts in any camera. You can check it yourself, no need for an oscilloscope, just use a Voltmeter on your camera, the red terminal on Vbat and the black one on A_GND. Note that the large contact A_GND on the lens corresponds to 2 contacts on the camera, pick any of them: you'll read 6 Volts.

By the way, Chuck Westfall NEVER said the 1D X focuses faster than the 5D III because the battery has a higher voltage, he said it's because it's more poweful, and, indeed, it is. Roughly 4 W more than dual LP-E6.

I think I'll start another thread on this matter in the near future, it seems so many are interested, and it also seems there's a lot of misconception regarding this.

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