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Dear "J,"

 Just remember this. It is not you...it's him.

Now THAT is some funny $h!t, I don't care who you are.

EOS Bodies / Re: What's Next for Cinema EOS?
« on: June 10, 2014, 09:43:29 PM »
Low budget indie crowd is generally shooting Alexa.

And major big studio features and major episodic TV shows and even TV feature pieces….

I would say you see way more RED's on indie set's and Alexa's on major Hollywood features and TV show 

It may not be a 4K camera, but the Alexa is the digital workhorse of features and TV shows.

The 17-120 is nice... And will outlast any camera that they could have announced.

Haha yeah it's nice for the video industry but I doubt many people on here have $33k lying around to buy one. Prosumers got the shaft that's all there is to it.

NAB isn't for prosumers. 

There's a lot of good, quality gear has gotten down to prices that 'prosumers' can afford(and some IS aimed at that market), but they're not the main target customers of most of the manufactures/companies that are there and the products that they are selling.

Lenses / Re: Canon's f/1.2's: What is really going on?
« on: April 29, 2014, 03:28:30 PM »
I don't have the EF 50 f/1.2 L, I have the CN-E 50 T1.3, which is based on the 50L.  It is not a spectacular lens close up.  It seems fine a working distances of at least several feet, but once you get into the MOD area, it gets soft/milky with the aperture wide open.  I've also heard billions of complaints(ok, maybe I'm exaggerating a little) about Zeiss' 50mm(the still lens and cine version-CP.2) being a junker, too.

The 85 f/1.2 L II and CN-E 85 T1.3 are both awesome.  I love the 85 L on my 5DIII.

I have yet to understand the almost obsession and reverence that people have with a 50mm lens.  I do not own one for my still cams, and of the set of CN-E lenses that I own(14, 24, 50, 85 & 135), the 50 is the LEAST used focal length.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Samyang Teases Some New Lenses
« on: April 18, 2014, 05:03:29 PM »
They're talking about cine lenses.  Look at the geared focus ring and the 'T'.  Samyang/Rokinon and Tokina have become very popular with a lot of people that have Cx00's, F5/55's, DSLR's and the like.

Man who would have thought the answer was "not a damn thing."

The 17-120 is nice... And will outlast any camera that they could have announced.

EOS Bodies / Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« on: April 03, 2014, 12:23:58 AM »
I've never used the C100, but most that have them seem to love them and there's no doubt that the image it makes is very good.  Personally, the ergonomics of the Cx00 series don't fit my shooting style, but others LOVE them and if you're one of those that do like it, you can probably do great things with it.

EOS Bodies / Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« on: April 03, 2014, 12:08:04 AM »

What are you using for ENG now? What would you get out of the new stuff?
Right now I have a 5D3 and EF lenses (16-35, 24-105, 70-200 2.8, 2x teleconverter, 28 2.8 IS, 35 f/2.0 IS, 50 1.4, 100 2.8 macro), EOS-M with adapter, and 60D, Tokina 50-135 2.8, Tokina 11-16) and a bunch of other gear (audio, tripods , etc).

I do some event coverage, and documentaries. I want to do more of this. I have been thinking of the C100, at least my lenses would be useful. But I'd also like to have something all-in-one, quick to grab, with a GP all around lens. Thinking of the XA20 or XF200, or maybe even just a little Panasonic camcorder. Not sure what to do. C300 is too much $. Don't know much about the new Panasonic GH4 (with the audio add-on) but I suspect this cam is over-hyped.

What do you think?

My 'bread and butter' camera is a Panasonic 2700(P2 VariCam) w/Fuji HA13x4.5.  I bought the C300 mainly just for sit-down interviews and 'artsy b-roll' for feature pieces, but I do work on one show that specifies the C300 as THE camera(The bulk of that show should really be shot with a "real ENG" camera, but a lens like the 17-120 would help).

I've never shot extensively with a 5 for video.  I have two mkII's and a mkIII, but I bought them for stills.  But I have used my mkIII a few times for a third or fourth angle/lock-off.  We've all seen the beautiful images that can be made with it, but I couldn't imagine trying to cover an event with one.  I look at them primarily as a still cam, but if I look at it in the video sense, it should be more of a specialty camera (interviews, specialty shots/b-roll) not a general ENG camera substitute.  You would be much better served with a true camcorder, like the XF200 you mentioned.  The ergonomics would be MUCH better and the smaller sensor would help, too.  A large sensor when trying to cover an event ENG style can be a hinderance.  Wide aperture lenses wide open with a large sensor equals SHALLOW depth of field which can also equal frustration and missed/blown focus when you really need it.

EOS Bodies / Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« on: April 02, 2014, 07:15:48 PM »
It's not always just about weight.  My ENG camera(lens, battery, VF) is 25-30 lbs and I can shoot a lot longer(and better) than I can with my C300 that clocks in around 10lbs(grip, batt, LCD, and a lens).

That being said, at this point in time, I don't see this lens becoming a part of my arsenal.  Even as ideal as it would be for one of the shows I occasionally work on with the C300(and their rate really doesn't justify it).

EOS Bodies / Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« on: April 02, 2014, 02:38:01 PM »
My rep said it was probably going to be either 17-110 or 20-120, BUT it's 17-120 T2.95.  And list is $33K.  Not bad…  Less expensive and wider range than the Fuji Cabrio 19-90.  Now we'll just have to see how it stacks up optically.  The Fuji's are excellent.

EOS Bodies / Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« on: March 31, 2014, 06:03:01 PM »
If the new lens does come in at the range I've heard(wider and longer than the Fuji Cabrio 19-90 and Canon 24-105), it will be very useful.  It's still not in the range of our higher end 2/3" ENG lenses(I own two Fujinon 13x4.5's which are 4.5mm to 59mm and a Fujinon 22x7.8 which is 7.8mm to 172mm.  And they have built-in 2x extenders and macro capabilities), but nothing really exists in that range for s35 cine anyway.

BTW, NHK is supposed to be demonstrating OTA 8K for the first time outside of Japan next week at NAB.  I definitely will be planning on checking that out.

EOS Bodies / Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« on: March 31, 2014, 12:20:03 PM »
mkabi, to my knowledge, those RED sensors have never been released. I remember seeing them talked about years ago, but I never heard anymore than that.

Back to the lens, it's probably going to be over $20k. Likely in the $30k's, at least, but we'll see in a week or less. Spec wise, I haven't heard exact numbers(more correctly, I've heard two or three different, but similar zoom ranges) and I don't want to say the exact numbers that I have heard, but it's supposed to be wider than 20mm and longer than 105mm.  Aperture, I haven't heard either, but hopefully a constant T2.9.   And regarding the picture, I was told this morning by someone that officially they have to say it might be fake, but it's not- unofficially...

But, until Canon releases an announcement it's all rumor.  By this time next week, we should know for sure. NAB really gets cranking Monday.

EOS Bodies / Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« on: March 30, 2014, 03:31:14 PM »
That pic may very well be a fake, it's obviously a picture of someone's screen.  But there is a 'Cabrio' type servo cine lens coming to NAB.

EOS Bodies / Re: New Canon Cine Zoom Lens?
« on: March 30, 2014, 03:17:08 PM »
I hope they release something for non-billionaires

These aren't consumer products intended for consumers(or even rich enthusiasts).

EOS Bodies / Re: Will the next xD cameras do 4k?
« on: February 25, 2014, 08:47:49 PM »
There are strong rumours that they are going to release cinema-EOS cameras at NAB that will "steal the show". Do you seriously think that ANY non-4K camera is going to "steal the show"? Really??

Had a 30+ min discussion last week with one of my sales rep.  Do not hold your breath for that 'show stealing' Canon cine-camera this NAB.  Do look for a new cine zoom, though.  Canon likes to keep things under wraps and maybe they're wrong, but my rep is usually pretty much "in the know".  I guess we'll know for sure in about a month and a half...

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