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No, but I do take many photos for my 3d work for textures and samples many of my photo library for many things.
I have nothing against you, but you are clueless to why people will need a high MP camera. Not every one that takes photo for prints and stills.
I use a lot of my photos for my art stuff from my 3d work to photo manipulation, and building my library for my creative needs when i need them. Space is cheap, and I have more than enough power in my comp to edit anything in the market.
I swear people are so close minded now a day. Photography has gotten huge since it went digital. You don't need to be a pro photographer to need a high end equipment.
I never stated I'm a great photographer or can produce stunning images out of my camera. I just want a camera that can give me a lot of mega pixels I can play with because that's is my main needs. It might not be yours, but it's mine.
Sometimes I look through my library of photo and sigh that I want to use something out of photo, and realized I can't sample from them cause the mega pixel aren't enough to make a clean image.
Anyways to each there own. It's the end production that counts.
I am trying to get my head round this one - but calling someone clueless when they have a different opinions is not a good way to get consensus.
Would I be right in thinking that you want to take pictures and extract parts from them, using mp to keep the IQ up?
You see I believe that the majority do print and view the images so that is the 'normal' requirement, so the need to have large mps cameras will limited to a very small section of people. The manufacturers aim their products at the largest market segment to get the maximum profit - that is the reality of the situation.
Now it is possible to get very large mps MF bodies and I dont see why you dont use those rather than 35mm DSLRs. However if being an amateur there is a budget constraint then you may have to adopt a different approach to resolve your issues, for example, getting closer and taking many closeups, or buying longer lens, macro lens etc
I do agree with you in that more mps are useful for cropping to different paper sizes, but for that about 25mps is all that is needed for native printing on A3.
Zero I don't want to continue a debate or discussion once I see a person isn't understanding ours posts and worse than that saying I'm clueless. There isn't much a person in my position doesn't understand about picture taking. You don't know me so I'll give you a pass on that but there are other pros that speak the same language as I do and vice versa that know what I'm talking about. With the present day level equipment such as Mark ll or especially the newest Mark lll someone just like you should have the results you need if the *professional* *knowledgable* photog using that body is using it correctly... correct lens, tripod, settings, etc. Again I'll point out the data issue. If a person is using that new Nikon D800 or any future body with 36 megapixel capability we are talking about a workflow that will require dealing with files over 200+ megs. It would seem to me that the graphics folks that want that or have the time to deal with that would be using medium format as a solution and want the very best. Or on the other hand you'll have avid amateurs who will always feel the need to have the most megapixels money can buy but for all the wrong reasons.
The only thing people think they know about cameras is megapixels. "Hey that's a nice camera you have there. I have one just like it. How many megapixels does yours have" If I have a nickel for every time that happened.......
I do understand where you are coming from, but it's really one side. You're not trying to grasp the reason why a person would need a high mega pixel camera, you are really fixated on your ways of thinking.
You have no clue what my work flow is , and yes I do have a 5d mark 2 with L lens and I don't want to jump ships cause of my gears. Why the heck would I need a medium format camera? I don't need to lug it around . I don't do studio shots . I don't have special lighting( all my lighting are virtual anyways). All I need is a high mp camera cause I get more real estate to play with. Yes I'm really happy with mark 2 it take beautiful pictures, but the need for more Mp is always there because of the flexibility I have with more.
My 3d projects can fill 100gb with in a day work with all my PS files and 3d mesh. 200 mb files wouldn't hurt my work flow.
I'm not out there to take wonderful photos, I just take photos of random things like rust , garbage , human skin, eyes , so on and on. I don't need anything other than a high end camera that I can walk around with, to build my library.
Having clear images with high mp means, I can go back to those photos and take anything out of those images for my art.
there always a market for that, that's why the d800 is such a big success, it's out selling the mark3.
If you're satisfied with what you have that's great, but you can't say that for everyone else. Blaming people and calling them amature cause they need more Mp doesn't make you any better.
I wonder how many people out there want a ton of megapixels (30+) and don't even realize that most computers would lag like a mother ****** when processing these files... Especially if you are zoomed in to 100% crop and trying to make edits... Post processing 21-22mp images from my 5D's are somewhat slow going on my 15in Corei7 Macbook Pro... And I have 8GB ram and a Crucial M4 SSD! My 27in iMac actually runs slower than my Macbook Pro. The only thing that handles the processing is my PC Rig that I built from scratch. You'll need some serious power if you expect to be post processing in any sort of timely manner. Here's a general idea of my PC setup for snappy processing times on 5D II & III jpegs/RAWs: Intel Core i7 Extreme 6 Core 3.33GHz Processor ($600), NVidia 580GTX Graphics Board ($440), Crucial 16GB RAM, Crucial M4 SSD (6Gb negotiated link speed). This is just the critical hardware. You can go ahead and add on an ATX motherboard of your choice, Cooling system, additional Hard drives, Blu-ray/DVD drives, and any PCI slot peripherals you want. You'll probably end up spending at least $1500 on the tower hardware alone (not including the case or monitor(s) lol) for a decent machine that will be able to keep up with the processing of huge images from your 30+mp camera.
So who still wants 30+mp? You can take the pictures and wait 30 minutes for your consumer level desktop or laptop to catch up to to your workflow. Unless everyone who bought a D800 has a rig that can keep up with the processing resource requirements, I think it might be safe to say that many photographers out there are losing money on time waiting for their computers to render changes of these massive files.
That's not expensive, you just aren't earning enough!
But somehow I'm always lacking in funds.
