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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: Today at 06:24:36 PM »
If you listen to the monotonous droning you would think no one could take a decent photograph with a Canon, the only trouble for the drones is that plenty of people prove them wrong and misguided.

Exactly.  It's a totally ridiculous and untenable assertion that the low ISO differences between SoNikon and Canon sensors mean that the former can deliver excellent images whereas the latter deliver subpar or unusable images. 

I've come to expect such DRivel from the usual sources (old and new), but I must admit it's rather disappointing when otherwise apparently logical people start spouting the same sort of crap.

If more people start "spouting the same sort of crap" then maybe it isn't "crap."

Simply put, the Exmor sensor can deliver raw files that can be used in ways that Canon's can't. Whether you want to call it "DRoning" (because of the difference in DR) or something else doesn't change the fact that the raw files from the 5DIII are left wanting when compared to the D8x0 (except for high - 3200+ - ISO.)

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: Today at 06:07:24 PM »
I guess I disagree that the 5D III was only intended as an event/low light camera. The 5D II was the most popular landscape DSLR on the planet until the D800 came along. It's one of only two cameras in Canon's current lineup that really offers what's needed for landscapes anyway...large frame, high megapixel count...well, certainly lacking in the DR area. The 6D is the other option...but it lacks in the areas for all my other kinds of photography. Ironically, the 6D has 26.8e- RN, and does even better at high ISO than the 5D III...really confused as to why Canon did not put the 6D image sensor and readout pipeline into the 5D III...the latter did not come out much later after the 5D III...

It is rumored that the 5DIII should have been out earlier but that its release was delayed by natural disasters (Fukushima plus whatever else was going on at the time.) Thus the small release window between the 5DIII and 6D should have been much larger.

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: Today at 06:04:28 PM »
The reason I see noise in the shadows is when you expose to preserve the highlights, you push the rest of the exposure down. This is the opposite of ETTR. This is basically what highlight tone priority does.

No, highlight tone priority changes the way JPEGs are rendered in the camera.

ETTR is push the histogram as far right as possible without clipping detail required. Specular highlights may be sacrificed, depending on the photographer. This is based on a "normal exposure" leaving a gap at the right of the histogram. If there is no gap then ETTR is a corrected exposure that provides maximal detail without blowing more than specular highlights.

What the chart does tell us is that cameras sell much better in the 2 months before Christmas than the 2 months after.

And please remember that the high end DSLRs are just a fraction of DSLR sales...

Yes, exactly.

Very interesting chart.  Since this is a shipping chart the peaks in mirrorless, and in a lesser degree to DSLR, shipments is just in time for Christmas giving.  DSLR also seems to have some peaks around release dates (mirrorless may have the same but I haven't been as aware of their release dates).  I do think the drop may be related to DSLR technology maturing and it takes more to get the consumer to part with his dollars.

Yup. This has to be the most intelligent comment in the entire thread.

And given this, there should be an uptick in DSLR sales post photokina when people rush out to upgrade to the 7DII.

If that works for Canon then I doubt we will wait as long for the 7DIII as we have for the 7DII,

Long term, DSLR is falling.

Long term, mirrorless is raising.

lol, based on your graph more like mirrorless sales are eternally flat, and dslr cycles.  Though at the rate mirrorless is "rising" perhaps it can overtake dslr by 2514.

DSLR sales are cycling down and at the rate DSLR sales are dropping, it won't be long before they drop under that of mirrorless.

The mirrorless sales aren't eternally flat but on the scale of the graph presented, a 10% drop from 1,000,000 will of course show up larger than a 10% rise from 100,000.

Pricewatch Deals / Re: Deal: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS $999 at Adorama
« on: August 31, 2014, 11:58:43 AM »
Wasn't the 24-70 f4/L overpriced at 1.5K?

Its street price outside of the US has recently been lower than inside the US.

Long term, DSLR is falling.

Long term, mirrorless is raising.

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: August 31, 2014, 03:38:24 AM »
As for DR/exposure latitude, for all the debate on this forum there has been exactly ONE test sample shot under identical conditions, the one from Fred Miranda.

Once a test is done, it doesn't need to be repeated.

Apparently it does because the test does not support the whining about DR that appears on this forum. Not even close.

For some it wouldn't matter how many times the test was done or who did it, there would always be some reason to disregard the test results. For people in that camp, there is nothing that can be done to convince them and it is a waste of energy to try and do so.

Other people with an unbiased and objective mind can look at a test and recognise not only the results but also the method as being valid without need for further tests. Such test results have been available from since the D800 was released.

Work out which group of people you're in.

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: August 31, 2014, 03:28:14 AM »
5DIII can do 132MP/sec
D810 can do 180MP/sec

D4s can do 176 MP/sec
1D X can do 252 MP/sec

Did you have a point?

Yes, neither of the cameras that you mentioned are the 5D3 or D8x0 (which are the topic of this thread.)

Try and stay on topic next time.

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: August 31, 2014, 03:25:13 AM »
Yeah, that's pretty much my experience with D800 NEFs. That shadow tonality is just phenomenal. THAT is what I want. It doesn't matter if you lift by's just...beautiful. NO BANDING! :D I really, really, cannot wait until Canon figures out how to get rid of their banding noise...because it's just the most hideous thing I've ever seen.

Then do as I do and stop buying new Canon cameras until they fix it.

And also stop recommending Canon cameras to others too.

To me, extra reach simply means I can zoom in closer to the subject when standing a certain distance away.  1.6 times closer with a Canon crop sensor.  Simple definition.

The "zooming closer" is an illusion. The lens does not draw a bigger image on the sensor.

But a 70D has more MP in the center of the picture than does a 5DIII so you appear to get a "closer zoom".

Similarly with the viewfinder, it only presents a smaller part of the image circle.

EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: August 30, 2014, 02:37:22 PM »
5DIII can do 132MP/sec
D810 can do 180MP/sec

The "extra reach" is simply higher pixel density.

Whilst a 20D/30D might appear to have "extra reach" when compared to a 5DII/5DIII, the pixel density is the same and thus an APS-C crop'd 5DII/5DIII image is about the equivalent of an 8MP sensor.

The "extra reach" of the (say) 70D is just more pixels in the middle of the field of view than a full frame camera with the same megapixel count, nothing more, nothing less.

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