All of the above.
+1, which is why I have a DSLR and not a mirrorless.
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All of the above.
it really should have been a EF-22/2.0 STM pancake. Not EF-S. Not 24mm. Not f/2.8.
I want a work over of the normal to short telephoto lenses with is, like the 24, 28, and 30 is.
Maybe I get you wrong (or incompletely) but what is missing for you from the 16-35 f/4?
I can't argue with any of that. My only real point was that if this lens is real, Canon will continue to have no fast and sharp (compared to the new 16-35 f/4) ultra wide zoom, which is a shame.
2. EF 14-24/2.8L USM. A competitor to Nikon's version. But I believe Canon will not offer f/2.8 in this focal length range.
I personally feel should Canon not offer f/2.8, it's not really a true competitor. The rumor was that this new wider zoom would cost $2800, so without at least f/2.8, Canon would be asking that we pay significantly more than the excellent Nikon 14-24 f/2.8 for a slower Canon version.
I very much hope you're wrong. If Canon wants to offer an f/4 or so, then I'd prefer to see two offerings by Canon just like Nikon's f/4 12-24 and f/2.8 14-24.
Fake. F/4 makes no sense.
Makes perfectly sense... People photogs (the only ones that need 2. would never use 11mm, because it distorts the image too much. For them, a new 16-35/2.8 is much better, which this lens would leave space for. Then Canon would have three wide angles to choose from, but to have all FL's and apertures covered, you gotta at least buy two of them...
Besides, I don't think you could do 11mm/2.8 that easy. But looks like a nice supplement for the already great lens lineup!
Hmm...Reasonable. I was thinking too little differentiation after release of newest 16-35 f4, and Nikon has done so well with its 14-24mm...And you know Canon wants another $2500 L in the lineup.
I still say the image is a fake. Too ugly.
Plus the website OP says this is "listed" on looks like a shady electronics dumping ground.
Since noone have objected to my statement about 17mm & 24mm = architecture and 90mm = product shots, I presume this is right. I guess the addition is now "45mm = The Dog, avoid it at all cost"
Why do they bother with lenses like this?
Towards the edges at the wide end, it is just rubbish.
Also it would appear to offer close to the same IQ as the 24-105/f4L, if not better. Be interesting to see what photozone, etc, have to say.
However it will perform very nicely on APS-C cameras.
Dear friends. Let's imagine three different lenses:
EF 22mm F2 (hypothetical would weigh 500 grams)
EF-S 22mm F2 (hypothetical would weigh 250 grams)
EF-M 22mm F2 (actually exists and weighs 105 grams)
The only lens that actually exists today is the EF-M, which has great picture quality and low price.
You do not miss prime lens fast and lighter, and less price that Canon 24mm F1.4L, to accompany the camera 7D and 70D?
If there EF-S 22mm F2, or 24mm F1.8 costing $ 400 would you buy?
If you reread my posts, you'll notice that I never asked for a pancake EF-S. I used the example of the EF-M 22mm F2 to prove that there is demand for fast EF-S primes. After that I quoted Nikon DX 35mm F1.8 and 30mm F1.4 Sigma DC.
I say again that I am not against Canon release lenses that do not meet my desire. The sad part is that the launch of an EF-S 24mm F2.8 means that Canon will never launch an EF-S 22mm F2.
Why is it that the EOS M, a Hello Kitty camera, gets a 22mm f/2 lens and the Semi-Pro EOS 7D get an inferior 24mm f/2.8 lens What message is Canon sending to the Pros who use APS-C cameras
Just curious... what brand has a pancake 22 f/2 in a DSLR form factor that you're trying to compare it to?
When did I ever say I wanted a 22mm f/2 PANCAKE lens I DO NOT WANT a PANCAKE lens, just an ordinary EF-S 22mm f/2 lens.
BTW Pentax makes the HD PENTAX-DA 21mmF3.2AL Limited (a pancake) for their crop cameras. The problem with pancake lenses is you have to make sacrifices to get the small size. Pentax chose IQ over lens speed.
Me, I prefer normal lenses which have both good IQ and a reasonable f/stop.