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Lenses / Re: The Canon EF 50mm f/1.0L
« on: January 21, 2015, 10:42:48 PM »
It should be a fine useable lens as long as the AF motor lasts.  Check out how Jessica Claire used her 50mm 1.0:
http://www.jessicaclaire.net/blog/7345/Wedding-with-DJ-Brittany-and-Rod

One of the images indicates 1/12000...

I wonder what she is using. Film camera or a 1D. Typo?
I wonder too. It is more amazing 1D has no 50ISO.

The shutter speed is likely a typo.  She likely used the 5D or 5DII, both of which have ISO50.  Beautiful photos.

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Lenses / Re: The Canon EF 50mm f/1.0L
« on: January 20, 2015, 01:37:23 AM »
It should be a fine useable lens as long as the AF motor lasts.  Check out how Jessica Claire used her 50mm 1.0:
http://www.jessicaclaire.net/blog/7345/Wedding-with-DJ-Brittany-and-Rod

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Lenses / Re: Where are the new Canon 50mm and 85mm lenses?
« on: January 08, 2015, 09:02:02 PM »
OK, makes sense.  Thanks

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Interesting ... user of long-discontinued heavy-as-a-brick Pentax 645 medium format film camera calls massively popular digital point & shoots an "epic fail" because assembled from "out-dated" spare parts.   :)

Please, dont feel intimidated by the revelation of modus operandi of many manufacturers from many different industries.
Money = Good.  Spare Parts laying around = Bad.

I wish you a fantastic journey with your photography, a lifetime of great images, and more. Dont forget that Photography is a form of Self Expression, and your images are revealing.

Enjoy !

Yes, I'll enjoy, thank you.  Your "revelation" was that these new cameras are somehow an "epic fail".  I'll grant that perhaps you know something about out-dated spare parts at the Canon factory.  But I'm not sure how that fits in with your view of photography as self expression.  The "epic fail" was because one can't make expressive photos with these new cameras? 

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Lenses / Re: Where are the new Canon 50mm and 85mm lenses?
« on: January 08, 2015, 04:24:44 PM »
I'm actually thinking of picking up a Sigma 50 1.4 EX (ie Sigma's older 50 1.4), as a "best compromise" (for my purposes) of sharpness/bokeh/build quality/cost, despite the potential focus problems and the softness wide open, but have been holding off in the hope Canon might release something compelling.

That's what I did last summer. At one time I had the nifty fifty and my buddy had the Canon 50 f/1.4. Neither one seemed to focus very accurately/consistently so we both abandoned the lenses. So when I saw the old Sigma for $350 brand new on Amazon and thought for the price, why not. Since I'm on crop and I bought it for my "portrait" lens I can accept it's limitations. Namely it does focus a little slower (there is a good chunk of glass there) and the focus can just plain miss from time to time, and a bit soft wide open (fine for portrait uses). But for the most part, and after AFMA the lens, it does really well on static subjects. Trying to use it in AI Servo is a lot more hit and miss. I will say though, when the lens hits, it does produce some great shots, has lovely bokeh!

Sounds like you abandoned one lens with inconsistent/inaccurate AF for another lens with inconsistent/inaccurate AF.  What's the advantage?

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Lenses / Re: Where are the new Canon 50mm and 85mm lenses?
« on: January 07, 2015, 06:07:15 PM »
As long as Canon keeps selling the 50 f/1.4 and 85 f/1.8 like they have been, I think we'll be in for a long wait.  Those lens productions must be almost pure profit at this point and while they aren't the world's best lenses, they are good enough for a great many people.  The 24, 28, and 35 lenses were rather poor in comparison and not good sellers from what I understand, so the economics to replace them made sense.  Sigma certainly hears the voices of discontent, however...

This is pretty much what I think as well.  The 50/1.4 and 85/1.8 are great as they are so the improvement will be harder to sell at a higher price point.  Canon knows that the ROI for a prime lens factors heavily into pro shooters' decisions and many already own the existing 50 and 85.  Canon must find or somehow create a demand for the replacement versions and that was a lot easier with lackluster 24, 28 and 35 version 1 lenses.  And while they're at it, Canon doesn't want to create an EF lens that is so good that the L versions become less of an upgrade at their even higher price point!

I assume zooms probably sell much better at a higher price point so they get all the love first.

Surely there would be a large demand, at least for an updated 50 1.4? 

Absolutely.  Demand would be huge -- it *will* be huge.  My guess is that Canon will get around to it.  They've been putting out new lenses and updates of old lenses pretty steadily, so they just haven't gotten around to this one.  I think it's far too easy to theorize (wrongly) about what "Canon wants" as if we can read their minds just based on what lenses exist and what lenses don't exist.

Canon could certainly make an awesome and GIGANTIC 50/1.4 that's as big as 24-70/2.8 zoom, but that's not what everyone wants.  I'm hoping for an update along the lines of the 35/2 IS which is fabulous and small.  I love the size and the bokeh of the current 50/1.4 but just wish it were better in the 1.4 to 2.0 aperture range, and wish the AF motor were better.

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Lenses / Re: Where are the new Canon 50mm and 85mm lenses?
« on: January 07, 2015, 06:05:35 PM »
As long as Canon keeps selling the 50 f/1.4 and 85 f/1.8 like they have been, I think we'll be in for a long wait.  Those lens productions must be almost pure profit at this point and while they aren't the world's best lenses, they are good enough for a great many people.  The 24, 28, and 35 lenses were rather poor in comparison and not good sellers from what I understand, so the economics to replace them made sense.  Sigma certainly hears the voices of discontent, however...

This is pretty much what I think as well.  The 50/1.4 and 85/1.8 are great as they are so the improvement will be harder to sell at a higher price point.  Canon knows that the ROI for a prime lens factors heavily into pro shooters' decisions and many already own the existing 50 and 85.  Canon must find or somehow create a demand for the replacement versions and that was a lot easier with lackluster 24, 28 and 35 version 1 lenses.  And while they're at it, Canon doesn't want to create an EF lens that is so good that the L versions become less of an upgrade at their even higher price point!

I assume zooms probably sell much better at a higher price point so they get all the love first.

Surely there would be a large demand, at least for an updated 50 1.4? 

Absolutely.  Demand would be huge -- it *will* be huge.  My guess is that Canon will get around to it.  They've been putting out new lenses and updates of old lenses pretty steadily, so they just haven't gotten around to this one.  I think it's far too easy to theorize (wrongly) about what "Canon wants" as if we can read their minds just based on what lenses exist and what lenses don't exist.

Canon could certainly make an awesome and GIGANTIC 50/1.4 that's as big as 24-70/2.8 zoom, but that's not what everyone wants.  I'm hoping for an update along the lines of the 35/2 IS which is fabulous and small.

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Lenses / Re: Where are the new Canon 50mm and 85mm lenses?
« on: January 07, 2015, 05:21:57 PM »
Sigma certainly hears the voices of discontent, however...

But Sigma doesn't hear the voices asking for smaller & lighter gear.  :)

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Interesting ... user of long-discontinued heavy-as-a-brick Pentax 645 medium format film camera calls massively popular digital point & shoots an "epic fail" because assembled from "out-dated" spare parts.   :)

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Lenses / Re: 50 f/1.2L problems applicable to 85 f/1.2L?
« on: January 06, 2015, 04:26:43 PM »
the focus shift is so easy to avoid

Great that you are happy with the lens. For the price I'm just not as forgiving.

Happy shooting!

Yes, I'm happy with the lens because it has an exceptionally beautiful way of drawing.  It was good enough for Mario Sorrenti shooting the 2012 Pirelli Calendar (NSFW) -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjjF5yQmVw4 -- He used it along with the 24-70 and a Hasselblad.  It's good enough for photojournalist David Burnett and others.

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Lenses / Re: 50 f/1.2L problems applicable to 85 f/1.2L?
« on: January 06, 2015, 12:44:14 PM »
I have used the 50L a lot. But it is really more than anything a portrait lens. The problem is however, that at the distance were you want to take shoulder/head portraits - you have the focus shift.

It's a great lens for portraits. and the focus shift is so easy to avoid.  It only affects focus up close and only around f/2.8.   When shooting near closest focusing distance, use f/2 or f/5.6 and there's no problem.  With subjects farther away, using any aperture is OK.

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you must apparently live on a very different planet ... looks like some Canon asteroid to me.

In the world of 2015 I live in and travel around ... I see all those families using smartphones and tablets to snap away happily ... for some years by now. Dwarfy-sensor digicams? Rotting away in some drawers.  ;D

another 5 stinking, unnecessary dwarf-sensored, crappy consumer digicams back from the year 2000. 

In 2015 companies should be prosecuted for manufacturing such useless crap ... for environmental reasons ... wasting valuable raw materials and producing special treatment waste impossible to recycle. :P

I disagree.  These are fun and handy little cameras and lots of people enjoy using them.  These are cameras that get used because they travel so easily — they work for family occasions, vacations, school events, etc.  Compare that with much better cameras that hardly get used.  I often read comments by people who buy prestige high end cameras and end up not using them.  They switch brands and complain/brag on forums about how their big camera is now "collecting dust" — a real first world problem.

Obviously there are customers for them.  On planet Earth.  Not *all* families are using smartphones and tablets.  Many do, but certainly not all.  That still leaves a market for these products. 

Is anyone buying point & shoots?  On the B&H web site, the $349 SX50 has 267 reviews.  The $6800 Canon 1DX has 200 reviews.  Seems like there's a market for both.

Or look at Amazon.com's top 100 best sellers among all digital cameras:
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Digital-Cameras/zgbs/electronics/281052
Lots and lots of point & shoots from Canon, Sony, Nikon, etc.  Most of the top 100 are what some people here call "crap".  And yet they are what many people are buying ... and buying ... and buying.  Like it or not, Amazon's top 100 best sellers list shows that there is still a significant market for "digicams". 

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another 5 stinking, unnecessary dwarf-sensored, crappy consumer digicams back from the year 2000. 

In 2015 companies should be prosecuted for manufacturing such useless crap ... for environmental reasons ... wasting valuable raw materials and producing special treatment waste impossible to recycle. :P

I disagree.  These are fun and handy little cameras and lots of people enjoy using them.  These are cameras that get used because they travel so easily — they work for family occasions, vacations, school events, etc.  Compare that with much better cameras that hardly get used.  I often read comments by people who buy prestige high end cameras and end up not using them.  They switch brands and complain/brag on forums about how their big camera is now "collecting dust" — a real first world problem. 

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Lenses / Re: 24mm - Digital Photography's magical focal length?
« on: January 05, 2015, 12:55:57 PM »
24mm on a crop sensor is the approximate equivalent of 35mm on film or full frame. Most digital photography is crop (though that is not reflected on this forum), where 24mm gives a 38mm equivalent at 1.6x crop, and 36mm on 1.5x crop.

Oh yes, on a crop body the 24mm is a great people lens.  Very versatile as a near normal moderate wide angle.

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Lenses / Re: 24mm - Digital Photography's magical focal length?
« on: January 05, 2015, 08:09:07 AM »
But I have a confession to make, I can't 'see' photography in 24mm and I think I'm losing out on what may be the most versatile focal length in digital photography. In fact, I would ask, is 24mm to digital photography what 35mm was to film?

It is best for landscape and architecture, definitely not best for people.  The reason you can't "see" in 24mm is that it's wider than most people normally see.  24mm has nothing special to do with digital or with being what 35mm was to film.  35mm is to digital photography the same as what 35mm was to film.

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