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Canon General / Re: Canon Can't Even Make a Billion Dollars Anymore
« on: October 26, 2012, 01:30:48 PM »

In general, reduced revenue means cuts...and often, R&D is one of the first cuts to be made.  Sad, but true.

well a malicious guy could say:  i have not seen much sensor development in the past 4 years.... so what?

On the subject of R&D, check out the Chipworks report on full-frame DSLR camera sensors from a few days ago. Canon is basically still using the same fabrication technology for their sensors that they used in the 5DC, while their competitors have long moved on, so you could say that there hasn't been much sensor development in the past 7 years. They do have newer technology in store, comparable to what Sony and Nikon are using, but they've still yet to make the move. What this means in this context is that if Canon does cut R&D costs for sensors as a result of reduced profits, it might not be until another four to five years before they start to see any major negative effects.

Lenses / Re: Canon Announcements Next Week? [CR1]
« on: October 17, 2012, 01:50:19 PM »
I would be willing to bet some serious moolah that the 200-400 f/4L with the 1.4X will be the major release announcement...along with the heart stopping price.... :-\
Quoting myself from that thread of yours :): Anyway, here's an interesting thing: as reported on NL, some shops such as Foto Konijnenberg in Netherlands (edit: called Photospecialist in the UK) are actually already taking orders for the 200-400, although you can currently only order one bundled with either a 1DX or 5DIII and they're showing it as "out of stock". If you substract the price of the camera from the bundle, it makes the price of the lens itself to be around €10,000, which means that it will probably be, indeed, $10,000 in the US. And it also means that the announcement should be right around the corner. And last I looked, they had also added a lens + bag kit.

Lenses / Re: Starting to think the 200-400 1.4X is VAPORWARE!
« on: October 12, 2012, 02:17:58 PM »
I know the price will be high, and I'm budgeting for that.

Yeah, I actually figured as much when I looked at your signature, but that was after I had already posted my comment : )

Anyway, here's an interesting thing: as reported on NL, Foto Konijnenberg in Netherlands is actually already taking orders for the 200-400, although you can currently only order one bundled with either a 1DX or 5DIII and they're showing it as "out of stock". If you substract the price of the camera from the bundle, it makes the price of the lens itself to be around €10,000, which means that it will probably be, indeed, $10,000 in the US. And it also means that the announcement should be right around the corner.

Lenses / Re: Starting to think the 200-400 1.4X is VAPORWARE!
« on: October 12, 2012, 10:25:40 AM »
I am looking to buy that lens to replace my 100-400L. I want it, I need it, and Canon damn sure better hurry up and supply it! >:(

Anybody have some inside info?

The latest rumour was that it was going to be announced at PhotoPlus, which is just a couple of weeks away. But if you seriously think the price is going to be anywhere near the 100-400, think again. I think it's been estimated to come in around $10,000.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS-1D X DXOMark Sensor Scores
« on: October 11, 2012, 08:37:35 AM »
i guess for some the reputation of the DXOmark has just become a bit better.   ::)
;D ;D
I think this is the first time admin put Canon's DXO mark on the front page

Yeah, I thought he said earlier this year that he was never going to post anything dxomark-related on the front page ever again because their sensor scores were meaningless.

I know people love to debate the numbers from DXOMark.
Ahh, I guess he's simply realized how great they are for generating page views :)

Dilbert really outdid himself this time. (Which if you look at his history, is pretty difficult to do).

I don't know.... I started reading his post after reading a couple of the replies and got truly riled up at first and nearly wrote an angry response, but then I read on and became bored. He really lost his momentum somewhere around where he started talking about the 5d2. All in all, this one gets a 3, maybe 3.5 out of 5.

dilbert, I'm afraid you have failed in your job as the head of CR's trolling division. It's time for you to step down.

EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Sensor... why?
« on: September 17, 2012, 11:53:52 AM »
According to Canon USA the image format of 6D is 35.8mm x 23.9mm, 5D2 is 36mm x 24mm.
I guess Canon just trim down the 5D2's sensor a bit. Maybe the AF is also modified from the 9 point AF in the 5D2. In this way, Canon is able to use these 4 years old parts to create a new body, reduce the overstocked 5D2 sensors and AF module and cut the cost a lot. Three birds with one stone.

Nope. I did some quick calculations and the number of total pixels on this sensor is less than the number of effective pixels on a trimmed-down 5d2 sensor, so the pixel pitch is definitely different.

Besides, modifying a stock of existing components is, even if it's possible (and I really doubt that it is in this case), hardly cost-efficient. It's just plain easier to produce a new piece from scratch.

EOS Bodies / Canon EOS 6D Official Announcement
« on: September 17, 2012, 04:08:30 AM »
The EOS 6D Digital SLR Camera Includes a New Full-Frame Sensor, Built-in Wireless and GPS

LAKE SUCCESS, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, today introduced the EOS 6D Digital SLR Camera, a versatile mid-range full-frame camera with the durability and performance professionals require and the creative imaging options serious photographers crave. Canon has coupled the incredible image quality of a newly designed 20.2-megapixel full-frame CMOS sensor and DIGIC 5+ Image Processor with the creative potential of built-in wireless transmitter and GPS features. The camera also includes an 11-point AF array and 63-zone dual-layer iFCL metering sensor together with 1080p Full HD video capabilities, in an affordable camera body. Building upon the qualities that made the EOS 5D Mark II camera so successful, the EOS 6D bridges the gap for budget-minded photographers, videographers and cinematographers who are eager to step up into the world of full-frame imaging.

“The introduction of this camera completes a well-rounded ecosystem from input through output for Canon, allowing us to provide the right combination of features for every level of photographer. We believe the EOS 6D Digital SLR Camera along with our new PIXMA Pro printers will help unlock the creative vision of so many who aspire to capture and display their artistic abilities,” stated Yuichi Ishizuka, executive vice president and general manager, Imaging Technologies & Communications Group, Canon U.S.A.

Designed for advanced amateurs and videographers making the move to a full-frame Digital SLR, the EOS 6D fits neatly into Canon’s professional imaging system with an advanced feature set including full manual options for creative control in addition to new and intuitive automatic settings to help even novice photographers capture great images. The camera’s construction helps meet the needs of professionals with a 100,000-cycle shutter durability and EOS Integrated Cleaning System for high-quality vibration-based dust removal. Among the many advancements in Canon’s new EOS 6D is the Company’s proprietary DIGIC 5+ Image Processor that powers the camera’s fast 14-bit analog-to-digital conversion for exceptionally smooth color tones and gradation. The camera offers a full-frame, 20.2-megapixel CMOS sensor and continuous shooting up to 4.5 frames per second (fps).

Thanks to the combination of its new CMOS image sensor and the powerful DIGIC 5+ image processor, the EOS 6D provides a wide ISO range from 100-25600 with a low setting, L: 50 and two high settings, H1: 51200 and H2: 102400. These outstanding low-light capabilities allow the EOS 6D to easily capture dimly lit scenes such as wedding ceremonies, indoor corporate events, or landscapes at dusk. To support the ample sensitivity of the new camera’s sensor, the EOS 6D camera’s Auto Focus (AF) system includes a newly-developed 11-point AF sensor featuring a high-precision center cross-type point with an exceptional EV -3 sensitivity rating for accurate focusing even in extremely low-light conditions.

The EOS 6D has a large 3.0-inch Clear View LCD monitor with 1,040,000 dot VGA resolution and 170 degree viewing angle, with high-transparency multicoating for maximum protection and clarity when viewing images or navigating menu screens. When used for Live View shooting, the camera’s bright high-performance LCD screen provides 100 percent coverage, for easy focusing and framing.

Full-Frame 1080p Full HD Video

Videographers, student filmmakers, and creative independent spirits will appreciate the full-frame video capabilities of the EOS 6D in an affordable and compact body. Borrowing from the best of the EOS 5D-series, the EOS 6D provides full manual control over exposure and audio levels while recording video. The camera features NTSC and PAL video modes at multiple frame rates, recording 1080p at 30 (29.97), 24 (23.976) and 25 fps, 720p at 60 (59.94) and 50 fps and standard video at 30 (29.97) and 25 fps. The camera provides up to 29 minutes and 59 seconds of continuous recording (with 4GB automatic file partitioning) in selectable All i-framei or IPB compressions with embedded timecode. Especially when used with large aperture lenses, the EOS 6D camera’s full-frame sensor offers a tremendous degree of creative control over depth-of-field, helping users to achieve pro-quality cinematic effects in Full HD video recordings.

Built-in Wireless and GPS

For the ultimate in DSLR connectivity and control, the EOS 6D features a built-in wireless transmitter which allows the camera to share images and video with the user’s choice of wireless devices such as select PowerShot cameras, smartphones, or tablets, as well as cloud-based destinations including social networking sites through the Canon iMAGE GATEWAYii iii. A very intuitive and useful wireless feature is the new, free Canon EOS Remote app available for iOS and Android systems which will allow a smartphone or wireless device such as a tablet to remotely connect, control and operate the connected EOS 6Div. This seamless connection and control will open new opportunities for professional photographers shooting weddings or remote wildlife, without the need for tethered operation or accessories.

For on-location shooters, landscape photographers or enthusiast photo travelers, the EOS 6D features a built-in GPS receiver to record longitude, latitude, elevation and Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) as EXIF data for seamless geo-tagging while shooting. The GPS coordinates are appended to each image and easily syncs with Canon software or mapping apps on social network sites to show image locations. Use of UTC data allows images to be chronologically mapped and trails plotted and recorded.v

Boundless Creativity

To help photographers unlock their full creative potential and explore all the different avenues of digital photography, the EOS 6D includes several creative modes for image capture. First is the HDR (High Dynamic Range) mode allowing the camera to capture three separate exposures and combine them in-camera for a stunning image capturing both enhanced shadow detail and bright highlights. Next is the camera’s Multiple Exposure mode where users can combine up to nine individual images into a single composite image, with no need for later computer post-processing. Four different compositing methods are provided for maximum creative control, including Additive, Average, Bright and Dark. Compositing results can be viewed in real time on the camera’s LCD monitor, and there is a one-step Undo command that allows photographers to delete an image and try again if desired. The EOS 6D will even allow photographers to specify a previously captured RAW image as the starting point for a new Multiple Exposure composite image. In addition to HDR and Multiple Exposure modes are Canon’s standard Scene Intelligent Auto and special scene modes to capture great images with ease. The camera is compatible with SD, SDHC, and SDXC memory cards including the new Ultra High Speed (UHS-I) cards.

Pricing and Availability

The EOS 6D Digital SLR Camera will be sold in a body-only configuration at an estimated retail price of $2,099.00 and it will additionally be offered in a kit version with Canon’s EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM zoom lens at an estimated retail price of $2,899.00. Both configurations are expected to be available in December 2012.

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i UHS-I Card is required for All i-frame compressions
ii One time registration is required on CANON iMAGE GATEWAY.
iii This software enables you to upload images to social network services. Before uploading images, please be aware that image files may contain privacy related information such as people and places. If necessary, please delete such information. Canon does not obtain, collect or use such images or any information included in such images through this software.
iv Compatible with iOS version 5.0 or later and Android devices version 2.3/4.0 or later. Data charges may apply.
v In certain countries or regions, the use of GPS may be restricted. Therefore, be sure to use GPS in accordance with the laws and regulations in the country or region. Be particularly careful when travelling outside your home country. As a signal is received from GPS satellites, take sufficient measures when using in locations where the use of electronics is regulated.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 16, 2012, 04:00:56 AM »
Other than the 11 AF with 1 cross type I don't see anything that is a disappointment from a lower cost FF DSLR. What did you guys want. A MkIII at $1500?
All new FF DSLRs should have dual slots, preferably of the same type

That way you can save to 2 cards at the same time for added safety. The first wedding you shoot where the card gets damaged before dumping the shots - you'll agree with me.

Wouldn't having built-in wireless eliminate the need for a back-up card slot, though?

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 15, 2012, 10:05:09 PM »

* - APS-C Sized body - What is that supposed to mean? I have a 40D and I have seen 60D the difference between the two is huge and I favor the bigger body....

Well, the putative dimensions of this camera were actually posted a few pages back and someone also posted a size comparison between the rumored 6D and a few existing cameras: it appears to be somewhere between the 60D and the 7D in size, or in other words, basically the size of a 40D (except a bit thinner).

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 15, 2012, 07:57:39 AM »
someone working in a retail in the uk...

the price point in the UK will be £1799

its a 20mp camera with only 1 card slot SD/SDHC... stock will arrive in December.
The price is including 24-105 or not?? £1799 is close to $3000

Nope, UK prices just tend to be higher like that. Amazon UK is currently taking pre-orders for the D600 at £1974.44, so if this rumoured price is true, then the 6D will be nearly 200 pounds cheaper than the Nikon.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 15, 2012, 05:34:54 AM »
My question is:  if it is indeed 20MP, why the heck did they develop yet another FF sensor?

They're Canon. They did it because they can.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 14, 2012, 02:09:49 PM »
It looks pretty good to me. If it's a fake (and I don't think it is),

how is you photoshop experience?

Don't have any, and my track record of spotting fakes hasn't been quite spotless, either (The first leaked images of the Nikon d800 seemed totally fake to me, yet turned out to be real). But the reason why I think it's not a fake is because there's so many little things that set it apart from other EOS cameras of similar size: there's no pop-up flash and no white spot on the lens mount, so it doesn't look like a 60d or a 7d; it's smaller than a 5d and the large dof preview button is missing; the rubber flaps on the side don't match any existing camera. So if it is a photoshop job, it's a clever one, since there's so many differences from other cameras, yet there's no obvious signs of a cut-and-paste job.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 14, 2012, 01:37:02 PM »
Now digicame-info got two pictures of 6D

That "6" looks so "genuine"  ;)

It looks pretty good to me. If it's a fake (and I don't think it is), it's a good one, since it's styled like all newer Canon cameras (7d, 60d, 5d3), yet it's not an obvious case of just switching around a few numbers. It's certainly different from all current cameras.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 14, 2012, 11:20:15 AM »
This is probably fake, but if true the max price would be $1.5k.

I agree.. 1500 MAX!

I'm getting a slight deja vu here and I wonder why. Hmm, must be because of all those countless forum threads about how the d600 should be/should have been $1,500 max.

Anyway, I see nothing wrong with these specs, other than that maybe the MP should have been a bit higher. I think it's pretty clear that this camera is meant to be the full frame counterpart to the 7D, meant for studio and lanscape photography, rather than wildlife or action shots; hence the slightly lower-specced AF, but also the built-in Wi-Fi (for the budding studio photographer) and GPS.

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