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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II: More High ISO Samples
« on: September 27, 2014, 10:21:15 PM »
The initial reception to this camera based on specs was pretty tepid, which I didn’t understand.

Dynamic range...  :P

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thats great for the type of photography he shoots...but let me see him try to shoot a full wedding with that rig or a heavily scheduled fashion shoot or sports....

mirrorless is a neat technological development but i don't see it ever replacing entirely the convenience of looking through an OVF and being able to see and react quickly to your subject matter.

call me old school....

Aye! I'm playing with the A7r right now, and even though it has some cool features, even a relatively advanced EVF like this is no replacement for an OVF. You can feel the lag...it's not obviously apparent, this is a fast EVF, but it is still there. Movement also has a blurred appearance as you pan around, which is frustrating. The worst thing is the moire...MASSIVE moire an aliasing in the EVF, especially around things like blinds in windows or the deckboards of my deck. It's really bad.

The other thing about an EVF is you have that limit on detail. I can readily see the pixels in the A7r EVF. I can also tell that there is a limit on resolution. It's always been claimed by EVF advocates that the ground glass in an OVF limits resolving power. That may be true, however it doesn't limit it anywhere even remotely close to how limited EVFs are. The difference is massive. I can very clearly tell when my subjects are focused in the 5D III (much better than in the 7D even). I really have a tough time telling what's focused with the A7r EVF...because of that resolution limit.

Another vote from me for OVF. EVF has awful lag and appearance... Apparently, it doesn't bother many. EVF is OK for casual photography.

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I am going to wait for EOS-M3. Just need it to come with DPAF, articulate screen, EVF and wired remote.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 25, 2014, 07:09:10 PM »
Canon's G7x sensor is from the original RX100 or the RX100 mk II, not the same as in the RX100 mk III

Do you have a link to prove this?

Also, according to DXOMark, the RX100 Mk 1, 2 and 3 sensors are nearly identical in performance with Mk 1 only being very slightly behind for low light ISO.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 24, 2014, 10:02:08 PM »
On the plus, if they get totally burned, it does show they try to correct quickly. So maybe if the 5D4 with old sensor burns them they'll be back quickly with a 5D5 even if they have to go to Sony for help.

I doubt the 7D2 is going to sell well, especially when compared to its predecessor. If the Amazon best seller chart is any indication, the 7D2 sales is going to be a flop. That happened to the G1X and G1X MkII (especially when compared to the RX100 Mk 1/2/3).

Hopefully, this is their wake-up call.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 24, 2014, 09:24:27 PM »
I am mostly excited about the EOS-M3. Hope it comes with DPAF, EVF (even if optional) and connection for wired remote. That's all I need. Throw in the 22 f/2 and that will be my compact camera set-up. :)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon 7D MK2 RAW Files
« on: September 23, 2014, 12:34:12 PM »
The squirrel's fur also looks like a water color painting, and the delicate whiskers are eaten by noise/noise removal.

No, they don't. They are fine.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data
« on: September 22, 2014, 10:13:52 AM »
Oh, and here's yet another wedding image I was processing from my 5D3 that I decided to throw out b/c by the time I corrected the 3EV vignetting of my 24/1.4 and then added 1.5 stops (b/c I underexposed by 1.5 EV to save the sky/clouds above my subjects), I had this wonder junk overlaid over my image

Maybe you should learn to convert and process your files properly.

I always thought wedding photographers make use of reflectors to avoid such classic lighting problems? That was what my wedding photographer did to get a beautifully exposed shot with the sunburst and blue sky behind us. Oh, he was using the Canon 5D classic.

Oh, here is another example: http://www.mattgranger.com/light. Matt has mostly Nikon gear.  ;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Looking Into a New Mount System
« on: September 22, 2014, 06:30:26 AM »
I look at the size and weight of the Sony FE 70-200 f/4 OSS lens designed for their mirrorless A7 family, and I shudder. What's the point of going mirrorless if the telephoto lenses don't shrink in size and weight?

I think I will like to stick to OVF. Thank you very much.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Official: Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 22, 2014, 02:00:22 AM »
I have personally compared the EOS-M and the sony a6000 side by side since and overall i still prefer the EOS-M about the only aspect I saw the a6000 better the EOS-M was iso 100 shadow recovery, high iso was a wash, AF was not much different the a6000 seems to lock nice and quick but most shots were out of focus and i find with the right lens the EOS-M performs pretty well in servo mode. certainly better than the a6000 did anyway as far as sharp keepers go.

Thanks for this highly important info.

I find it highly disturbing the A6000 AF is this poor. I actually have similar encounter with the OMD EM-5 but dare not bring it up 'cos folks will think I am crazy. ;D I attributed it to the slow EVF response when the subject moved.

Good to know the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side.  ;D

I am still waiting for EOS-M3 with DPAF and EVF. Guess M3 with 22 f/2 lens will be better than the best compact camera (incl. G7X, LX100 and RX100M3) out there.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A New EOS Pro Body With 46mp Next Month? [CR1]
« on: September 21, 2014, 02:10:35 AM »
Does this mean Canon might be using a Sony sensor in this new rumored camera?

Maybe.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data
« on: September 20, 2014, 11:53:16 PM »
But I bet they will slowly, quietly continue to improve their products to reduce and eliminate FPN and they will not publicly state anything about that, or DR, in order to keep that shameful little fact from becoming a mainstream topic to the general camera buying consumer.  Ignorance and non-disclosure is good for profits and marketshare.  They'll just sweep that under the carpet and move on to the next era of products.  Speaking of which, looks like they might be thinking a bit more seriously about mirrorless...

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/interview/20140918_667456.html

Actually, the D7000 was also not released with a lot of fanfare wrt its sensor DR even though it was the first mainstream camera to achieve greater than 13 stops of DR at base ISO according to DXOMark measurements.

As for EOS-M, the writing is already on the wall:
a) http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/interchangeable-lens-market.html

"It appears they’ve raised their 2015 interchangeable lens camera sales forecast (i.e. are not predicting another decline for next year, but rather significant unit volume growth). Given what I know of the market the only thing I could see driving the kind of growth they seem to now be predicting is another new interchangeable lens camera of significance."

b) http://www.cnet.com/news/canon-reveals-details-for-future-telephoto-lens-line/

"The newest range of Canon lenses is the EF-M series for the company's new "mirrorless" cameras, a line that's more compact than traditional SLRs. Canon only has a handful of EF-M lenses, but during a press conference here, the company committed to adding more."

c) https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdc.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2Fnews%2Finterview%2F20140918_667456.html&edit-text=&act=url

"Yes. EF-M also EF also with respect to compactness, in the format of each, I will continue to efforts to the fullest."

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EOS Bodies / Re: Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data
« on: September 20, 2014, 08:14:58 PM »
I think it is just as simplistic to look at past market performance where market shares fluctuated, and assume there weren't very specific reasons for why those market shares fluctuated. What happened in 2006, 2007, 2008, that caused changes in Canon, Nikon, and Sony market share? ...

Today, instead of a 15% differential in market share between Canon and Nikon, according to Hogan's report, there is about a 5% differential...

My opinion is, Canon is severely lagging behind in the one piece of technology that the photographer themselves cannot control to improve IQ: The sensor.

Too many factors affect market shares: chain distribution, advertising, company confidence etc.

Sony switched from CCD to CMOS with much improvement in high ISO quality in 2007-2008. First products Nikon D3/D300, announced on 23-Aug-2007, available in 2008.

This means in 2007 when Nikon had 40% of DSLR market shares as compared to 42% for Canon, they were just selling camera models with Sony CCD sensors.

On the other hand, the Canon 1D Mark 3 fiasco peaked in 2007-2008 (camera announced on 22-Feb-2007, available many months later).

Later, Sony started deploying EXMOR technology. First product Nikon D7000, announced 15-Sep-2010, available some months later.

However, in 2012, Nikon released the D800 (left side misfocus) and D600 (sensor debris) with serious quality control issues which dampened consumer confidence in Nikon.

At the same time, interest in mirrorless cameras started to pick up in Asia. Canon was no longer the top choice for interchangeable cameras in many Asian countries.

The companies also had varying success in penetrating developing markets (e.g., China).

As you can tell, it's all very complex. Sensor quality is only one piece of the puzzle. :D

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will Canon answer Sony's new cinema cameras
« on: September 20, 2014, 08:57:16 AM »
To OP: I think you've got it wrong.

From http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-definitely-a-new-e-mount-4k-video-camera-to-be-announced-at-photokina/:

"Sony will be taking design cues from the success of the Canon Cinema series. Will replace FS100. E-mount. 4k. Competitively priced. These will be C100 and C300 killers!!"

Looks like it's Sony that is chasing after Canon, not the other way round.  ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data
« on: September 20, 2014, 12:16:29 AM »
In 2010, Canon had a 14.7% market share lead on Nikon. As of today, at worst, according to Hogan's data, Nikon has reduced that gap by 50% at worst, by 80% at best, and on average by 75%. Even if we take the worst case scenario, for any company to change a large market share differential by 50% is significant.

That is overly simplistic. Take a look at the worldwide DSLR market shares from 2006 to 2008:

http://www.photoscala.de/Artikel/DSLR-Welt-im-Wandel

In 2007 and 2008, Nikon nearly caught up with Canon. But Canon pulled far ahead again in 2010 and 2011.

In short, Canon and Nikon numbers fluctuate from year to year. But the Canon ~ 40% and Nikon ~ 35% numbers have been fairly stable since 2012.

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