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EOS Bodies / Re: refurbished 5d III, what do you think?
« on: March 04, 2013, 10:17:40 PM »
Still, if you are prepared to jump on a one day sale, you can do very well.  I bought my 5D MK III from Adorama on ebay last fall for $2750 and got a spare OEM battery out of the deal from my ebay bucks.  Recently, there have been some very good short term sales.

this refurb camera from canon is a sale. I haven't seen anything lower for a 5d 3, perhaps I'm not looking in the right places?

I don't get people's hesitation with this. Refurbished means back to standards. Basically new. It's a great deal even with the 3month warranty.

In my experience I had to repair a 40D within warranty period, so I think warranty can be important. However, what are the chances I'll get a second camera that would break within the warranty period? lol

EOS Bodies / Re: refurbished 5d III, what do you think?
« on: March 04, 2013, 08:36:38 PM »
what does "refurb" means?

i know that for instance in vacuum cleaners if a customer returned one to the stor,e they would replace the filters and sell it at a deep discount...so buying refurb would be a good deal in that case.

but i have no idea what is involved in refurbishing a camera

EOS Bodies / Re: refurbished 5d III, what do you think?
« on: March 04, 2013, 08:06:02 PM »
warranty is only 3 months on those AFAIK


probably not worth it. 3 months is not that much.

EOS Bodies / refurbished 5d III, what do you think?
« on: March 04, 2013, 07:45:06 PM »
what do you think about getting a refurbished 5D-3? Is it worth it?

Not sure what warranty it would have, but assuming a year - do you think it's worth the risk?

why are some cameras "refurbished"? something was broken when a customer received it? or was it merely a return to the store for no reason?

this is what I'm debating over:

geez, i can't even call them to ask about warranty. need to be in the US to call. arghhh... i wonder if they'd accept a canadian CC to ship it to a US address....

Hey guys,
I'm in the same boat. I think my 40D is a nice camera and I only could wish for minor improvements. What I would want is: better AF(more points, higher point sensitivity), 7fps, AFMA, cleaner low ISO with nice DR, High ISO usable to 6400, a usable autoISO implementation. I don't need 18mp, I would have been happy with 16ish....(my wishes sound alot like a 50D)

The 6D comes close in certain respects. If the 6D would cost 1500EUR it would be priced in a way that I would think about buying it. It would be expensive still then because it doesn't fulfill all my wishes. Great IQ but seemingly not usable for sports (Volleyball)

The 5DmkIII is much closer to what I would want but it's much more expensive and thus out of range.

The 7D is a bargain at the moment but would be an Investment into a camera that is (although better than the 40D in many many respects) already 'old'. nothing wrong with the cam, just an odd investment...

I will wait until the 70D gets revealed...if it's underwhelming then I will wait what the 7DmkII brings...oh gosh I plan to wait so much :(
at a certain point it would be better to buy a used 50D and be happy....


i feel your pain.

having the exact same thoughts in regards to waiting for a new model and is it worth it...7D tight now is a bargain for sure....costs less than my 40D was when I first got it....but the "old" factor is a big turnoff for me, although it's hard to say if that's a reasonable concern or not.

I tend to believe the best way to upgrade is to go up the chain, rather than upgrade from the same line.

that's a valid point. However, I don't feel I've outgrown my 40D...almost there, but not yet. The reason I'm looking for an upgrade is mostly because my current 40D sometimes gives incorrect metering readings and either over or underexposes "tough" images.

Definitely rent before you buy if you can. That way you are sure to get what you want. If you don't need the pro af of the 5diii (wildlife or sports shooting) then the 6d is probably an even better camera and the 5dii would suit as well. Both save some cash over the 5diii.

valid point re: renting

thanks all for the info. it's much appreciated.

EOS Bodies / Re: Cost of Canon 5D mk III
« on: February 09, 2013, 11:49:57 PM »

5D3 sales for ~$2500 have happened already and are bound to happen again. Just get one then.

pardon my stupid question, but is there a way for me to know when such sales are going on?
I don't monitor this forum daily - should I ? would it be posted here? Or perhaps there is an easier way?


EOS Bodies / Re: on the verge of buying, just need some final moral support
« on: February 09, 2013, 11:43:28 PM »
I found this thread while looking for some reviews, I think it might help you decide/justify your choice.


i can't decide what to get as an upgrade to my 40d, which is having some metering issues after getting wet (or perhaps it's just the age).

I am not a professional photographer, although I do enjoy it as a hobby.

I also like the crop factor of the soon to come 70D and the 7D, but I also really-really like the focusing points in 5D 3. low light improvements are great, but not as important to me as they are to other users.

It would be nice to have a built in flash, although I use it very rarely I like to have an option. ALthough higher ISO capabilities and better sensor of the 5D 3 would probably not require a flash at all...

To make the story short...I'm not sure the 5d 3 price is justifiable for me, but 7D is an old model, and when an upgrade will hit the market I'd be thinking that I should have waited longer... and 70D is not out yet (although a couple of months is not a big deal for me right now), but there is no guarantee it would have more focusing points for instance.

what do you think?
I've been debating over this on and off in the summer and decided to wait for a new release to the 40d/60d cameras, and now that 70d is coming I'm having doubts again...I need to make a decision by mid-May13.

my lenses are: 100mm macro (use rarely), 70-200 F2.8 (use a lot) and a 10-20mm wide angle which is my "primary lense", but needs an upgrade to possibly the 24-70mm. So I'm not taking the 10-20 into account when making the body decision.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Upgrading 40d
« on: July 23, 2012, 02:37:56 PM »
speaking of crop factors. I was always under the impression that it sort of made the lense "more telefoto". But recently someone told me that that's not true, it simply captures less of the picture, so it looks bigger. but one can achieve the same result on a FF by doing a simple crop in editing software.

So I looked into that, and that looks correct


crop factor is simply an automatic crop by the camera, so loosing it is not really loosing the telefoto ability of the lense, it's just adding an extra step in postediting.

I wonder if I was the only one thinking that crop added "physical" zoom, where, in fact, it does not.

So having said that, seems that the "crop" argument is not a good one.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Lovin' my 5d Mark III
« on: July 23, 2012, 12:09:49 PM »
Here is a shot with my 5d III from a few minutes ago.  I would have taken 50 shots and not achieved this one with my 40d.  The autofocus system and all of those points help tremendously with something moving around as fast as these hummingbirds do.  I have way less "throw away" pictures now as compared to my 40d.

that is one amazing hummingbird. those things are very hard to photograph.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Upgrading 40d
« on: July 23, 2012, 11:29:30 AM »

my 40D is dying...probably from overuse. Sometimes I'm having issues with metering and sometimes the system won't switch to "preview mode" properly (I don't know if it's a software glitch or a hardware issue).

There is no one thing that I can pinpoint that I miss. Shooting better in low light would definitely be great and having 61 focusing points is a definite asset, but the price tag on those 5D-3 is quite hefty. I can afford it, but the question is - do I really need it? Since I'm not shooting professionally, will it really be justified it for me?

Nonac - I've read your review after I have posted this topic, which made me add more weight towards the 5D-3 decision. You've actually wrote about some things that I find very important, so thank you for sharing.

Fugu82 - thanks for the info, it's always nice to hear from people that have actually experienced both cameras in person, as opposed to comparing specs on paper.

Mt Spokane - that's a good point. and on one hand you are right - what's the point of having a great lense where the camera can't pull 100% out of it? on the other hand - getting a less expensive body and another piece of glass (24-70L for instance) is also a good option......so many things to choose from.When you say "fine tuning", what do you mean? Are you referring to post editing or are you talking about having to adjust AF manually (i.e. switch to MF and fine tune it)?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Upgrading 40d
« on: July 22, 2012, 01:24:31 PM »
It's time to upgrade my 40d. I can't decide what to get: 60d, wait for 70d to come out, mk3, mk2, 7d?

I dont mind the crop. Im also not earning money with photography, so not sure if marks are really justifiable. Perhaps getting a 60d is better?

Any thoughts?

I mostly shoot with 10_20sigma and 70_200 2.8l

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