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PowerShot Cameras / Re: Canon to Target The GH4 With New DSLR Type? [CR2]
« on: December 19, 2014, 07:18:04 AM »
High Iso is important for video?

Hmmm.  Helpful occasionally to get out a hole.

if we are speaking professionally, then fast lenses and lighting are much more desirable.

If thats too much hassle, them we aren't talking professionally.   No offence whatsoever intended.

Hmmm ... never heard of ENG, documentary, wedding work? Then you are just being arrogant. No offence whatsoever intended.

How can anyone be unaware of the importance of high ISO in both video and photography? Lighting is not always available, or even desirable. Even fast lenses are not always sufficient.

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: Canon to Target The GH4 With New DSLR Type? [CR2]
« on: December 17, 2014, 07:58:07 PM »
Low light performance is just happens to be the most important video feature, it is the one feature that can get you the shot or miss it. The GH4 is basically useless for video past ISO 1600, and not that great at 1600 either. The 5D3 gives great results up to about ISO 10,000 and with Magic Lantern you get zebras, peaking, magic zoom, and a ton of other goodies, so the GH4 doesn't cut it for me. The Sony A7s will be a great option when they get a good selection of native FF lenses, but Canon will probably have an offering before Sony gets the lenses made.

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Also, is there DOF on the Gh4 without the speedbooster? Just curious.

Aaaaand that's why I wait for the Sony a7sII ... likely adding the 3-5 axis sensor stabilization and maybe fix that rolling shutter issue.  I could care less what glass Sony makes for it. Hello metabones and Canon EF glass.

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I wasn't too keen with mark 1, but that 5-axis man...
In fact, add 1080/120 and you have gold... pure gold :)

I use to think high ISO was super important, but then I learned how to light things. Now I think anything clean over 3,200 is nice, but not necessary. Maybe if all one has is a kit lens at f/5.6 I can see the importance.

Also, don't forget that a Speedbooster on the GH4 gives you both a Super35 (~APS-C) FOV AND an extra stop of light. When other cameras need ISO 3,200 for a given scene, the GH4 with Speedbooster will give you the same exposure at ISO 1,600. And that combo is still $400 cheaper than the A7s and $1000 cheaper than the Mark III.

And the A7s can mount any type of glass in the world. Not sure why you'd hold out for native Sony glass....

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Yeah, but just to add... with regards to lighting... its a drag to lug around a generator all the time (if you are outside). And, if you're talking about battery LEDs... those sony batteries are expensive!

I'm hearing a lot good things about that speedbooster, never thought it can do super 35 FOV...
I have a friend who got the speedbooster with the Sigma 18-35 1.8 (turned it into 1.2 - Have you ever heard a zoom with 1.2???)

All of those things are coming sooner than later.
If I was starting from scratch I might not go with Canon right now, but I don't see anything tempting enough to make me risk selling my and replacing it with another brand, especially since this is all a game of leapfrog and Canon is not sleeping.

The 5D3 is still the best all around combo video/photo option I think: it does great low light for both video and photo, it has good AF for photos, lots of lenses, built like a tank, great ergonomics, has magic lantern. I am tempted a bit by the Sony A7s (although some say it's a bit fiddly), but I'll wait and see what they do with the mark II. In the meantime Canon may leap ahead. I am actually considering the C100 markII ... the new viewfinder and LCD look great, and that is a really useable camera.

Some people love the GH4, but working alone in a variety of poorly lit environments where I can't control the lighting, it's just not going to do the job. The 5D3 can deliver great video without intruding on anyone or announcing itself with lights, the C100 even more so, and that's really important for documentary and ENG.

I hope Sony updates the A7s with IS and beefier grip like the A7II ... that might be interesting!

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: Canon to Target The GH4 With New DSLR Type? [CR2]
« on: December 17, 2014, 07:41:44 PM »
Low light performance is just happens to be the most important video feature, it is the one feature that can get you the shot or miss it. The GH4 is basically useless for video past ISO 1600, and not that great at 1600 either. The 5D3 gives great results up to about ISO 10,000 and with Magic Lantern you get zebras, peaking, magic zoom, and a ton of other goodies, so the GH4 doesn't cut it for me. The Sony A7s will be a great option when they get a good selection of native FF lenses, but Canon will probably have an offering before Sony gets the lenses made.

Does anyone actually use the FE lenses for video?  I would have thought that the way the manual focus rings are setup leaves them pretty much dead in the water for video.

Most EF lenses work fine, and lots of people use them for video. The 35 f/2 IS is great with IS and the focusing is very good, the 70-200 f/2.8 IS II is awesome, but it breathes quite a bit, the 24-105 is very good, and 16-35 is very good as well. The 100 2.8L IS macro is only useful for macro video (in my opinion), because it's very difficult to focus beyond a few feet away.

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Still cannot tether the EOS-M. Such a shame they did so little with this camera, every time I use it I think "so much un-tapped potential." It's frustrating. 

(referring to the EOS Utility, which was also updated)

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PowerShot Cameras / Re: Canon to Target The GH4 With New DSLR Type? [CR2]
« on: December 15, 2014, 02:49:41 PM »
Exactly. It appears that Canon is trying to sneak into good standing with budget filmmakers by associating itself with Panasonic and the GH4. However, it's exceedingly easy for Canon to compete with the GH4 - all they need to do is make the 1Dc $2,000...but they won't.

I'm a stills guy, but videographers keep telling me that there's far more to a video rig than if 4K is / isn't included.  Surely Canon's stubbornness to not offer 4K at lower price points comes with other features/codecs/options that the GH4 doesn't have, right?  (And, no: a high price is not a feature   :P)

I recognize Canon's being foolish here, but is it a 'reasonable market segmentation' foolishness or a flat out Rome-is-burning / 'The Emperor is wearing no clothes' sort of foolishness?  Is this like Mercedes deciding to never sell an affordable car but at least what they sell is really well built, or has Honda (Panasonic) simply made a comprehensively better car (GH4) for less money?

I appreciate how disruptive the GH4 is, but is it truly better than its higher price point competition?

- A

The GH4 certainly has its limitations (mainly low-light), but the video hype is largely justified (and more than just about 4k). If one only compared video performance with the 1Dc, it would be a close call. The GH4 has all the features that are glaringly absent from non-Cinema line Canons: Peaking, Zebras, in-camera slo-mo, 1080p 60fps, 1080p 96fps, Synchro Scan, uncompressed 10 bit 4:2:2 out, XLR inputs with the YAGH interface unit...the list goes on and on. That's why the comparison is made to the 1dC and not the 5d Mark III, which is still more than twice its price. It's hard to justify paying $8,500 more than the GH4 for the 1Dc. However, I'm sure a full frame sensor, better low-light performance, and a native EF mount is worth it to some people. If I could have either camera for free, I would pick the 1Dc for those reasons. But right now it's just so overpriced to be competitive.

Low light performance is just happens to be the most important video feature, it is the one feature that can get you the shot or miss it. The GH4 is basically useless for video past ISO 1600, and not that great at 1600 either. The 5D3 gives great results up to about ISO 10,000 and with Magic Lantern you get zebras, peaking, magic zoom, and a ton of other goodies, so the GH4 doesn't cut it for me. The Sony A7s will be a great option when they get a good selection of native FF lenses, but Canon will probably have an offering before Sony gets the lenses made.


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EOS Bodies / Re: More on The Coming 4K Camcorder [CR2]
« on: December 11, 2014, 07:32:24 PM »
I already bought the Sony X70, but this could be interesting if they put an awesome lens on it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 4K Fixed Lens Camcorder Coming? [CR2]
« on: December 06, 2014, 01:39:48 PM »
Of course we're all speculating to some degree, but from reading the description given here, it sounds like it will be a relatively small sensor camera (1" or less) because it will have a fixed lens and will also possibly be announced at CES so more of a prosumer/consumer camera.  I took the statement "it will have similar ergonomics to the EOS C100" as meaning the body will look similar to the C100 along with a similar button layout and a top handle with XLRs.  I think it would be awesome if it has a sensor that's as large as the C100's and hopefully it will, but to me it sounds like it will have a similar shape to the C100 but not necessarily similar sensor.
To me the biggest giveaway is the name. XC10 sounds like its basically the in-between line of the XA series (XA10, 15, etc) and the C-line. So, maybe it'll have a slightly larger sensor (maybe 1" to the XA's 1/2.84") but a lesser zoom range. Which actually would make for a great event/interview camera for my work.

I love the XA line, so, anything they can do to improve that is a win in my book

The "C" implies Cinema line of cameras, so I hope they go all-in and us an APS-C sensor. Maybe the'll have a 1.4x converter built into the lens!

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EOS Bodies / Re: 4K Fixed Lens Camcorder Coming? [CR2]
« on: December 04, 2014, 11:50:55 PM »
20x zooms are only on small sensor camcorders, 1/4", 1/3". The C100 is an APS-C sensor, and the comparable lens would be enormous.

Of course we're all speculating to some degree, but from reading the description given here, it sounds like it will be a relatively small sensor camera (1" or less) because it will have a fixed lens and will also possibly be announced at CES so more of a prosumer/consumer camera.  I took the statement "it will have similar ergonomics to the EOS C100" as meaning the body will look similar to the C100 along with a similar button layout and a top handle with XLRs.  I think it would be awesome if it has a sensor that's as large as the C100's and hopefully it will, but to me it sounds like it will have a similar shape to the C100 but not necessarily similar sensor.

When I saw "C100 body style" I assumed APS-C sensor, which could easily be wrong, wishful thinking. I really want it to be APS-C, but if it's 1" or less, then a 20x zoom is not going to be a huge challenge.

BTW ... I have the Sony PXW-X70 and the lens is 30-350 mm (FF equiv) or 12x. With the really well-implemented digital zoom it does about 600mm just fine. But I wish the lens was 1.8-2.8 instead of 2.8-4.5, even though the camera would be bigger and heavier. I'd rather have the brighter lens than the longer zoom on that camera.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 4K Fixed Lens Camcorder Coming? [CR2]
« on: December 04, 2014, 03:09:40 PM »
This could be awesome. I think a 28- 600 FF eq is out of the question due to size and weight.

Not sure why it would be out of the question.  20x zoom ranges aren't at all atypical in camcorders.  Yeah, that's a bit on the wide side—most camcorders I've used start at more like 40mm and approach 800mm on the long end—but I doubt the slight increase in front element size resulting from going a little wider would make it all that unwieldy.

20x zooms are only on small sensor camcorders, 1/4", 1/3". The C100 is an APS-C sensor, and the comparable lens would be enormous.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 4K Fixed Lens Camcorder Coming? [CR2]
« on: December 04, 2014, 01:56:11 PM »
This could be awesome. I think a 28- 600 FF eq is out of the question due to size and weight. But they could do a 24-135 f/4 or a 28-200 3.5-5.6 FF equiv, and include a really well-implemented digital zoom.
I am really curious about this one!

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Since you have the money for a second 5D3, I'd say sell your existing 5D3 and buy a 1Dx.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Real EOS M Replacement Coming Soon? [CR1]
« on: November 17, 2014, 04:52:50 PM »
Canon should bring 2 Models:
• EOS 3 - as small as possible, = like EOS M2, with 70D sensor, fast enough DPAF, some minor improvements, price exactly like SL/100D
• EOS M Pro = "Fuji XT1 killer", 7D 2 sensor, AF speed best in class, EVF, built in flash, built in wifi, GPS and RT commander, fully articulated "retina" LCD, beefier grip to fit LO-E6N battery for 500 shots per charge. :)

And never mind should those 2 models confuse some consumers. They can still go and buy a rebel or other mirrorslappers.

I am sure Canon will keep the EF-M mount. It' specs are well chosen and the existing lens line-up are all price-weight-size-performance leaders. Add a few more good, small and cheap pancake primes (e.g. 12mm/4.0, 50/1.8, 80mm/2.8) and a 60/2.8 macro and everythinv will be just wonderful.

I'd love to see a Pro version. There are already some cool looking lenses for the EF-M mount. The 11-22 is quite good. Samyang has a 8mm 2.8 fisheye and a 12mm f/2.0!  All of these lenses are tiny yet can produce perfectly acceptable high quality images. We just need an awesome new body for them.

In fact a really good EOS-M3 with a 7D2 sensor would go straight to the top of my "Buy Now" list.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Real EOS M Replacement Coming Soon? [CR1]
« on: November 17, 2014, 01:17:10 PM »
What it will probably have:

20.2 MP, from the 7D mk II
DPAF
5 fps
Digic 6 processor
1080p video at 60p, no aliasing as 7D mk II
Clean HDMI out with audio/timecode
An EVF
3" touch screen
Intervalometer
Wifi

-I would really love such a small stills and video workhorse but only if the video aliasing part is true in that it's similar to the 7D mk II not the 70D. Don't screw video with your damn aliasing Canon, the A5100/6000 all got rid of it and have similar video to the 7D mk II and 5D mk III, this one should have it too considering the competition.

I don't care about the EVF, but a good swivel touch screen would be awesome.
7D2 sensor, WiFi ... excellent

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Real EOS M Replacement Coming Soon? [CR1]
« on: November 17, 2014, 12:01:42 PM »
I hope it has the size and controls of the Fuji X-T1, has the 7D2 sensor, a swivel screen, and lots of videocentric features.

I don't think it will be that drasticallly different from what is out now, they would be in fear of cannibalizing their DSLR sales.
Even with the shortcomings of the existing M. It has already replaced my DSLR as a travelling camera. Canon can make a much better M and give customer a choice. People that prefer the DSLR will still buy the DSLR. People prefer a smaller, lighter camera and have no need for DSLR will by the better M.  Has anybody ever have a concern about SL1 will cut into the sales of 7D ???

I have the original and it's nice to have a pocketable APS-C camera that can take all my other lenses (with adapter).

If it has the 70D sensor I'll probably get one if it is not overly expensive, and it's more responsive and includes video features. I'd pay substantially more with the 7D2 sensor in it.

If this goes CR2 I'll probably by some more EF-M mount lenses. I've got the 22 f/2 (doesn't everyone), and the 11-22 IS so far.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Real EOS M Replacement Coming Soon? [CR1]
« on: November 17, 2014, 11:01:57 AM »
I hope it has the size and controls of the Fuji X-T1, has the 7D2 sensor, a swivel screen, and lots of videocentric features.

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