Messages

1

EOS Bodies / Re: New AF Technology Coming in July? [CR1]

« on: May 28, 2013, 06:33:50 AM »

I am more interested in ISO and DR, than in "new AF".

2

EOS Bodies / Re: 21mp Sensor in the 7D Mark II? [CR1]

« on: April 26, 2013, 05:03:45 PM »

Hi.

Thank you for the thorough reading. I must confess that perhaps my odd english might be the cause of a few misunderstandings... Let me clarify:

I'm curious why you think the 6D even remotely qualifies as competition to the 7D line. The two are radically different parts. The 7D line is all about performance and reach. It has a high frame rate (currently 8fps, rumors put 7D II at 10fps), a higher end AF system (19pt all cross type, rumors put the 7D II at 61pt same as 1D X), a much deeper frame buffer, and a load of other bells and whistles.

I never said that they are comparable. The 6D is the bottom of FF and 7D2 is the top of the APS-C. IMO it actually will compete with the 5D3 depending on what specs will come out.. If they are "evolutionary" no chance to top 5D3... If they are revolutionary now then we are talking about an interesting game for sure. About evolutionary/revolutionary  please continue reading 

...
2 CPUs - true: they could be either DIGIC 5+ and yet since they have DIGIC 6 it would be better at the same PRICE to put the new one.

Well, I just did the math in a reply to another answer. Here it is again. Assuming some extra masked pixels, ~8%, then we have two sensors with "real" pixel counts of 22.7mp and 26mp. Assuming 14-bit, then the numbers work out as:

22,700,000 * 14 / 8 * 10 = 398mb/s
26,000,000 * 14 / 8 * 10 = 455mb/s

I did calculations in another thread, and I came to the conclusion that each DIGIC5+ chip is capable of processing at a throughput rate of 250mb/s. A pair of them, interleaved as they are in the 1D X, would offer 500mb/s throughput. A pair of DIGIC5+ in the 7D II should be plenty to support a 10fps frame rate at either 21mp or 24mp.

WOW!  I actually learned something new... for which I am very, very thankful! 


However I hope you DO consider the possibility that additionally to the POWER OUTPUT in MHZ or whatever it is - they do implement new mathematical instructions, which later are used for new algorithms on which better ISO is achieved or totally new features. E.g. face recognition. Was it achieved in DIGIC 5 or 4?

Although to be honest so far what I hear - most new features for DIGIC 6 are video related 

Why not?!?! 5D3 had nothing innovative. It was updated 5D2... For me the only different between 1Dx, 5D3 & 6D is the Speed... AF... you say... 1DX - yes... the rest NO!

Price is a matter of demand, not consumer desire for status. Canon has extremely high demand for their cameras, regardless of their technological status. The percentage of camera owners who care about the minutia of a manufacturers technology is extremely small relative to the total camera buying populace. High demand drives higher prices more than any other factor, with perhaps base commodity (materials) prices and import/export tariffs being close seconds.

I believe here you missed my point: I've got your idea pretty well, I believe.  The high demand in DSLR market (mid, advanced, Pro) is dictated by the prerequisite of lenses ownership. Entry LEVEL is totally different game/market and perhaps easier to be explained with the basics of Economics.

Yes, I know people enough flexible and liberal to switch to NIKON... but most are conservative to go that painful road, which aside from the learning curve which is shorter for them and yet exists also includes possible loss of money by selling CANON to buy NIKON glasses.

" The percentage of camera owners who care about the minutia of a manufacturers technology is extremely small relative to the total camera buying populace." - true for point & shoot and entry level. But currently I don't want to move to NIKON even though I know that their Dynamic Range is better than Canon's. Ergo I am interested in technology and I know where it already happens, but stay with the "total camera buying populace" due to financial commitment in L glasses.  And again I will state it:

Hell yeah! That is what I call MILKING the Canon glass owners. :-(

Um...did you actually READ my post? Canon isn't milking anyone. Market factors over the last five years have pushed commodity prices very high. Even after the recent "crash", they are still quite high, only pulling back to prices from about two years ago (which is considerably higher than they were for the first half of the first decade of the 21st century.)

Come one! PLEASE! Digital photography was a risky business with bad image and results compared to traditional photography back then in the "first half of the first decade of the 21st century"! Hardly could you even think of comparing prices then and now.
....

Companies don't just sit pretty and "milk" their customers...if the customer thinks the price is too high, they won't buy, and the natural consequence of that is that prices come down. People were more than willing to pay $3500 for a 5D III, and have been more than willing to pay as much as $13,000 for a nice telephoto lens.
Those are consumer CHOICES! It has nothing to do with a corporation milking its customers for all they are worth. Canon has to sell at what the market demands, and so long as they can sell and still make a profit, if the MARKET demands a lower price, then a lower price will be had.

CHOICES??? - you mean LACK OF CHOICES. What should have people bought (did I use the correct tense here!?!?  ) when there was ONLY 5D3 and 1DX...? An OLD body? Buying in most cases is an incentive of upgrade. NOw don't tell me if you were a regular Joe you would buy your kids a 5D3 to have fun with?!? I even don't want to speculate what would have happened if 2 months after the 5D3, the 7D2 have come out... That is why we are currently in the "evolution" game.

...better ISO thanks to some of the improvements that found their way into the 1D X, 5D III, and 6D (more translucent CFA and higher SNR) supporting ISO 25600 (and clean ISO 1600 output), and maybe a process shrink to 180nm (to demonstrate Canon is and will be a competitive force in the DSLR world going forward).

180nm is out there even from CANON for quite some time! Since 2007. If technology available and NOT used for for 5 years... you call it principals of Economics. I call it "milking".

Why do things NEED to be "revolutionary"? I mean, what exactly does "revolutionary" get you over "evolutionary"?

DEVELOPMENT! Evolution is NO TREND SETTER. Evolution is for followers.
Revolution (here) is game changer, new trend, new DEMAND requirement for the customers if you wish. 5D2 was the first VIDEO DSLR, even if it was followed ONLY a few months later. 6D is the first wi-fi, DSLR AFAIK.
CANON is a follower FINALLY about dual memory cards. A trend in the PRO market set by... NIKON? (not sure).

That is why I don't want 7D2 with a 5D3 CPU and CMOS! I will NOT be happy with ISO achieved 2 years ago by the time the 7D2 would have reached the streets. I want & need a revolution body!

...
 Sony made one extra leap, from analog readout to digital readout. Revolutionary? Or Evolutionary? Hard to say, although personally, I feel it was part of a continual chain of evolutionary progress that has been occurring for years on the sensor front.

Yeah! That is why NIKON & SONY are ahead on the DR. Do you want me to remind you whose CMOS is on the top places on DXo? 

So, if Canon continues to build on their own knowledge in the realm of sensor design and manufacture...and if they reuse some of the improvements they first introduced with the 1D X and 5D III...that would be grounds for you NOT being interested in the 7D II? Seriously?

Yeah for sure! I want all the features set by NIKON as a trend for some time before BOTH 1Dx and 5D3. And by-the-way... which "specific" feature of 5D3 should I be interested in?  The FF?
The way I see it:
1DX- GREAT! but unreachable for limited pocket.
5D3 - a 1DX cheaper and slowly copy
6D - the cheapest and slowliest version of 1DX, but with wi-fi within the body.

.... An 18mp APS-C 7D II on a 180nm process would have a fairly considerable benefit in terms of FWC over the 18mp APS-C 7D I. That alone would improve noise performance. Improved CDS, on-die readout and digital conversion, column parallel readout, etc. all of which would be possible or more plausible with a process shrink, could also have a significant impact on IQ, reducing noise considerably, potentially even to D800 levels.

Using CANON technology from 2007? How inspiring! March 2012 is the street date of D800. And its current price is $2,796.95. Do you want to bet that if CANON (hopefully) have FINALLY implemented the 180nm in their CMOS the price would be above (AT LEAST) $3k. We are promised to have 8/10 fps as well 

A 90nm process in a digital sensor would compound the benefits of moving to a 180nm process!

Ahym if finaly this year we are to get 180nm that would make 90nm somewhere in the mid-summer of 2018? 

There is plenty of room for Canon to be "revolutionary". Even if they continue to apply the advancements they made with the 1DX, 5D III, and 6D...they can STILL be "revolutionary", and can still apply some radical improvements to their next sensors.

APPLY is one nice key word. The "advancement" please read as "following the competitors". The NIKON 4D was in February 2012 on the streets. The 1DX was in March 2012. Which still makes CANON a FOLLOWER!

Thank you again. I learned something very nice from you! 

3

EOS Bodies / Re: 21mp Sensor in the 7D Mark II? [CR1]

« on: April 26, 2013, 08:28:07 AM »

Hi again,

first of all - what-the-hack with that LENSE OFF TOPIC?!? And BTW had any of you imagined a APS-C with L lenses? Like in my case.

Oh yeah, it'll definitely sell. The 7D has been extremely popular, as it fills a fairly unique niche. The 7D II can only be better! How could it not sell?

Because the 6d is there.

In times of 7d & 5d2, the 7d mostly was the most expensive, i.e. "best" model in many stores, so people who wanted something "good" or "solid" were talked into buying that. Whith the 6d price on the decline, they'll probably buy ff quality & wifi/gps instead of 7d2 aps-c features a casual shooter doesn't need.

EXACTLY!!! With 6D into PLAY things get ugly. A game changer was 5D2, then 7D came out better and improved... but APS-C...

Now we have 6D. If anyone states that 5D3 was something great... nope - cheaper 1DX version with reduced features. Now 70D and 7D2... I will be happy to have xxDs back in the pro/amateur league. However I know for 100% that CANON is treating 7D as TOP ASP-C. And superiour to 6D. That is the way CANON represent it to resellers!!! NO matter the FF, wi-fi, GPS....

...
There are an awful lot of us that seem to be waiting on the 7D2.  It will sell.

+1 ... If the ISO performance is better, it would interest me immensely.
\BTW, I'm not sure of the physics but what sort of processing power would a 21/24MP @ 10 fps require?

2 CPUs - true: they could be either DIGIC 5+ and yet since they have DIGIC 6 it would be better at the same PRICE to put the new one.

...

One thing is for sure.  5D3 owners will be up in arms over anyone who posts that their new 7D2 is the superior camera...When it comes to Canon fanboys, you just don't mess with the 5D3.

...
Agreed. I feel though that the 7DII will come very close OR may even better the 5D3 under good lighting conditions. High ISO will however, be a different story.

Why not?!?! 5D3 had nothing innovative. It was updated 5D2... For me the only different between 1Dx, 5D3 & 6D is the Speed... AF... you say... 1DX - yes... the rest NO!

Price is a matter of demand, not consumer desire for status. Canon has extremely high demand for their cameras, regardless of their technological status. The percentage of camera owners who care about the minutia of a manufacturers technology is extremely small relative to the total camera buying populace. High demand drives higher prices more than any other factor, with perhaps base commodity (materials) prices and import/export tariffs being close seconds.

Hell yeah! That is what I call MILKING the Canon glass owners. :-(

.all for a price that is closer to $2k than $3k

CarlTN, stop scaring me with $3K price  lets not even go there  ... I want 7D II for around $1600 ... but if the 7D II is released in an APS-H sensor then I will gladly pay up $3K.

I really don't foresee a $3000+ 7D II. Logically, it just wouldn't fit within Canon's lineup. If Canon really is trying to restructure their DSLR offerings, returning the xxxD line to the entry-level realm in the sub-$1000 market, restoring the xxD line to semi-professional grade status in the $1500 market, and placing the 6D at the entry-level/prosumer FF market around $2000, then it seems logical that the 7D II would fill in the gap between the 6D and the 5D.

I see it getting a reasonable feature update...a sensor in the 20-25mp range, 61pt AF (assuming that AF sensor will work for an APS-C crop frame...we might see something like a 41pt AF unit instead, which would still be fantastic!), a higher frame rate (10fps, keeping it in line with the 7D/1D IV ratio relative to the 1D X)...

So far agree!

...better ISO thanks to some of the improvements that found their way into the 1D X, 5D III, and 6D (more translucent CFA and higher SNR) supporting ISO 25600 (and clean ISO 1600 output), and maybe a process shrink to 180nm (to demonstrate Canon is and will be a competitive force in the DSLR world going forward).

What do you mean!?!?
1DX is to be 2 years ago released when 7D2 comes out... +/- a few months... You mean that the new APS-C flagship that is just 6 month away from the 1DX upgrade (remember the big megapixel monster with new generation of technologies that would cost around $10K) will have the same ISO and technology as 5D3?!?
What for?!? I mean - sorry I am missing the more "revolutionary" than "evolutionary" part here.

So...again...why are people going to pay $2700 for a body that is hobbled by such a small sensor size?  Because "aps-c"-specific lenses are superior to full frame lenses?  Get friggin real, never going to happen, the physics are against it.  Because they just will?  Ok.  Maybe they will buy because of the "cool factor", and because it's the Canon name and reputation behind it.  Or maybe they won't buy as many as Canon would like.  Time will tell.
...
One thing is for sure.  5D3 owners will be up in arms over anyone who posts that their new 7D2 is the superior camera...When it comes to Canon fanboys, you just don't mess with the 5D3.

I am sorry if I messed up the quotes on this one.... :-(

Anyways: Here in this forum I bet there are a lot of wedding photographers - perhaps they would know best... But I presume that I was one I would buy - 1Dx & 7D2 (given that both are with dual CPU and/or 10fps). ONLY L lenses.

My scenario: 24-70 L II on 1Dx and 70-200 2.8 L IS II on 7D2. The best wedding configuration... Primes not included - I have no experience there...

No 5D3, or any other body.

However my point is the timeline:

7D as I now will be more than 4 years old...

• DIGIC I = 4 Bodies
  DIGIC II = 9 Bodies
  DIGIC III = 5 Bodies
  DIGIC 4 = 10 Bodies
  DIGIC 5 = 7 Bodies
  DIGIC 6 = 1 Body... so far...

IMHO anything above 6 Bodies would be milking the technology...

CANON is  perhaps a DSLR market leader - yes, but technology leader definitely NO... why would they...?

Additionally if you think that mid-range (70D) deserves DIGIC 5+... after two generations (50D & 60D) with the same CPU (DIGIC 4).. when CANON have already skipped a CPU 5D (DIGIC2) -> 5D2 (DIGIC 4). I say there is no SENSE in another body with DIGIC 5+.

I rest my case! 


P.S. I couldn't show the image attachment here which is a screenshot of the timeline. Please excuse me :-(

4

EOS Bodies / Re: 21mp Sensor in the 7D Mark II? [CR1]

« on: April 19, 2013, 04:35:53 PM »

Diko ... WOW, 9 quotes in one post ... Impressed. Man I struggle with just a couple of quotes, screwing up and modifying my posts most of the time.

What can I say?    I am furious with Canon. Photo-shooting is a hobby of mine and no work.
I am currently on a 40D ONLY! I need a very urgent upgrade.

I am far away from 1Dx :-( For all the rest of the devices only 6D seems "a little" OK. And yet far away from what I need.

I am furious with Canon.

I hope for the best about 7D2: new dual DIGIC 6 and new CMOS (NEW Technolgy, NOT the same CMOS as on 1DX, 5D3 edition customized for 7D2).


10x!

5

EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* A Bit of EOS 70D Info [CR1-CR2]

« on: April 19, 2013, 06:08:53 AM »

... Sony is developing new A-mount cameras that can outperform the competition. The status quo between Nikon-Sony-Canon is over. Sony wants to become “serious” and start a real war in the camera market. The A78 simply was good but not really a game changer camera.

That's the kind of approach I wish all camera makers would adopt.  Obviously, investors in Canon are happy with extreme utilization of technologies long ago paid for, but the USERS of that equipment who are currently invested and are looking for a substantial upgrade are left out in the cold.

If Sony can put out glass as good as Canon's and produce image quality on par as well - I see no reason not to go with the innovative company.  Especially when in-body IS is baked right in to the experience and EVERY lens gets IS.  And that's why I won't buy a refreshed 60D - no "game changing" features.

Amin. That is what I am talking about. I am sick with that inertia from Canon. They were the best, but not anymore after 7D release. Now they are just milking those with Canon glasses. That's it.

Want to force Canon to innovate?  Don't buy into everything they release.

Don't buy?!? Are you sure I should stick to your advice with my 40D and needs for night and low-light scene shooting?

...
Read what I wrote. I was shooting with a retail-bought 5DIII for a long time before you could even place a pre-order for the 1DX.

Plus, you've just acknowledged that the 5DIII's autofocus and low light performance is second only to Canon's most ultimate ever flagship camera. And yet it's still an insignificant marginal improvement over the 5DII? Please. At least have the decency to keep your trolling consistent....

Are you sure? As far as I can recall 5D3 got out 6 months after 1DX....? Are you Canon regional manager or Photo Tester? Otherwise I could hardly believe you... Or the trolling person just cries out loud to get the trolling person...?

Shutter lifecycle is irrelevant. Almost nobody ever wears out a shutter on any DSLR...?

Why are you so sure. I have quite different opinion. According to my observations quite a few from the PROs, no matter if they use it as first or second body, need Shutter replacement.

Dual memory card slots are irrelevant to all but a very small minority of shooters.

Again - where do you get your conclusions from? AFAIK almost every wedding Photographer is obsessed to have dual memory slots.

My problem is with Canon's dis-respect of the vast majority of their customers.
If it wasn't for xxxD an xxD sales there would be no R&D money to support xD development.

I wouldn't call 7D, 5D, 1D users "vast majority". Vast Majority are PowerShot users ;-)
But agree with the second part. I am also against the "milking" the users with Canon Glasses. :-(

6

EOS Bodies / Re: 21mp Sensor in the 7D Mark II? [CR1]

« on: April 19, 2013, 05:46:33 AM »

If only Canon would announce they had a 21mp sensor with the same or better low light high ISO low noise capabilities as that other mob, That would be worth hearing.

Agree!

My 15.1mp Canon 50d was awfully noisy.  This sensor would have to do better.

What should I say with my 40D... :-(

...
I too am hoping that Canon's next generation of APS-C sensors has better high ISO performance, but it's not like the current 18mp sensor is significantly worse than the current Nikon offerings.

Who confirmed you that the will have next generation sensor? So far we know that 70D & 7D2 will have own CMOS, but it is NOT 100% that it will be Next Gen. :-( I am sorry for telling you that. I myself am expecting nothing less than the best... but so far everyone state that 7D2 will be with DIGIC5 and NOT DIGIC6, although it exist in another camera from Canon already.

18 MP. 21 MP. 24 MP. Even 15 MP.  Frankly, I don't especially care.  If it does a full stop or more better in terms of high ISO noise performance for RAW images vs. the 7D, a 7DII will be interesting to me. If not, no interest.

+1

Better high ISO performance is a must.  Usable ISO at and above 3200 is key... I have the ISO max on my 7D set at 1600.  Anything higher I have to render in B&W to be usable.

Finally someone like me. I would ADD Dynamic Range improvment to the ISO. I don't care about VIDEO at all.
Although having in mind that current camera have 25K ISO...

I wonder will we see DIGIC 6, or dual fives in the 7DII? Not sure how adding more pixels to either camera will improve anything. I guess it's not a huge jump though I can't see the high ISO looking any better than it does now on a 7D. Wish they'd stick with 18mp and just aim at improving image quality but then where's the marketing strategy? Numbers sell.

They could pull it off with the Dual Digic 5plus.. that wouldn't be bad.  Dual Digic 6 may be a screamer though!  Looking forward to some Cr2 rumors!

If higher ISO - definetely dual Digic6. If better Dynamic Range - better CMOS.

They might use dual 5+ again this time, but I still have my hopes up for Digic 6.
A considerable delay on a model could mean they've put Digic 6 on it.
FWIW, I bet we're gonna be seing 2x 5+ on the 7dmk2, and digic 6 on the 70D.

Interesting idea. ;-) But not likely, because - 7D2 is the flagship for APS-C.

Regardless of MP count I would buy it (probably during Christmas time) ... 3 features I care about are:
a. better ISO performance
b. in-built HDR
c. ability to do at least 5 bracketed shots.

Good idea indeed. With 7D2 with dual DIGIC6 and in-built HDR bracketing with OUTPUT in RAW. That would be fascinating.

1. If a camera is due for release in the next six months, they wouldn't be making decisions about what is going to be in the camera.  They know already and have already made that decision.  If they haven't then the camera will take longer than 6 months to come to market.

True about marketing - however marketing needs time to make research and make decisions. Parallel to them - R&D need time to create and prepare for a final release a model - that is why different prototypes meanwhile are made. Then Marketing makes the call. A call that would be most recent and adequate to the current market. ;-) That simple it is.

ALL OF THIS STUFF IS SPECULATION PEOPLE.  HEAR SAY.  ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE.  A DUMPING GROUND FOR PROTOTYPE SPECS THAT WILL NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY.  THIS SITE IS FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT - THAT'S IT.  STOP BASING YOUR HAPPINESS OFF OF WHAT YOU READ HERE.

Did anyone else hear that? 

NOPE 

7

EOS Bodies / Re: A Bit of EOS 70D Info [CR1-CR2]

« on: April 16, 2013, 08:33:46 AM »

This camera will be a 6D minus the FF sensor. It will not have dual SD card slots, it will have a 9pt af (1 cross type) and will not have weather sealing like the 7D and Nikon D7100 (though it will be partially metal like the 6D with some sealing).

I very much doubt they will stick a worse af system in the 70D than in the rebel line up. During the 40D and 50D eras they segmented by using the af system as one differentiator after all so to me it'd make most sense to put the 7D af system in there. Especially as the R&D cost will already have happened and production going well.

Why not - if rumors are true - the "thing" would cost $1,2k. In order to separate it from 7D2 they would do so. Otherwise 70D would suffer cannibalization from its big brother.

I give it 11 or even 19 af points at most. But for sure 1 SD slot. For sure for this money no weather sealing

8

EOS Bodies / Re: A Bit of EOS 70D Info [CR1-CR2]

« on: April 16, 2013, 08:27:56 AM »

The 70D, T5i, and SL1 are terrific cameras for those whose needs they meet.

Exactly! 

My needs require good performance in ISO and Dynamic Range.

For me the only option is the newest.

9

EOS Bodies / Re: A Bit of EOS 70D Info [CR1-CR2]

« on: April 16, 2013, 04:03:12 AM »

Things are even worser: the rumors are that the 7DM2 would be with the 2 of the DIGIC 5s.

But you have no idea what has changed from 5 to 6, do you?

Canon have already stated that in DIGIC 6 we will witness:

---
* - Dynamic IS now detects and compensates for tilt and parallel movement (shift blur) to create video that's exceptionally free of distortion.
My comment: I doubt that it would be implemented in the DSLRs. But who knows. Why NOT.

* - enables video recording in MP4 format. Highly compressed MP4 video not only preserves space on your memory card but also improves playback on mobile devices.

* - improved sensitivity that allows for higher resolution with less noise when shooting in dark conditions.

The above "improved sensitivity" to be read as:

* - Most probably improved ISO-NOISE-reducing-algorythm which again would be trade of for DR. I shoot in dark and these specs are important to me.
---

Most of that is NOT concerning me, because I do stills and avoid video. I am most interested in High ISO and wide DR.

the basic design of Canon cpus and the operating system have been the same for the last decade. The digic certainly doesn't fix the sensor.

EXACTLY!

However having in mind that CANON have something new. They should IMPLEMENT it for everyone or at least to those that are willing to pay above $1k and most probably are amateurs or PROs with small  budget options.

10

EOS Bodies / Re: A Bit of EOS 70D Info [CR1-CR2]

« on: April 16, 2013, 03:33:27 AM »

DIGIC V (no one has said it will get DIGIC 6)

With the rise of the new SX280 CANON officially has stated that DIGIC 5 is a technology of the past.

When releasing a new product the vendor  is supposed to equip with its "best/newest" (officially released for other products) technology. If 70D is missing DIGIC6 then that would contribute to the bad image of CANON.

Things are even worser: the rumors are that the 7D2 would be with the 2 of the DIGIC 5s. Adding to that the modest DR that the current 1DX/5D3/6D CMOSs are capable of is very bad image for CANON.

Why do they continue with that low value for their customers in 2013? Year of versatile solutions from all competitors.

I don't want to be offered the same quality as someone buying lower class equipment targeted for the tourists:

18mp Sensor (Same as SL1)

.
I believe and HOPE that all that is only RUMORS. I am looking forward that both 70D & 7D2 will be with the newest and best CMOS and DIGIC technology.

P.S.: Sorry for the edit... Posted by accident before finishing it.

11

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D, DIGIC 6 & 18mp Sensors

« on: March 21, 2013, 04:06:02 PM »

.... 8k displays actually exist.

What would you use that for? Your eye can't make the difference... For a PRO - OK where a lot process can be executed on a HUGE SCREEN - only possible application.

For a simple display - NO WAY!

12

Canon General / Re: Announcements Coming Tonight

« on: March 21, 2013, 08:10:46 AM »

For people that don't like heavy gear it may seem as a good BackUP.... But come on! These days 25k NATIVE ISO is a standard for all DSLR devices.... going back to 12 800 is non-logical especially for beginners and/or lamers that would count in the beginning on automatic ISO calculations.

Additionally if 7D mark II does NOT come with DIG!C 6.... I don't know.... :-( I am saying that because I expected 700D (Rebel T5i) to be the little version of the APS-C top camera...

And if CANON come out with the same sensor & same processor even higher frame rate and better native ISO will not bring what it takes to sell good enough. :-(

13

Canon General / Re: Patent: Large Back Illuminated Sensor

« on: January 21, 2013, 09:48:08 AM »

Had anyone heard a update on this patent?

So far AFAIK it is not implemented otherwise as already commented everyone would have heard about it.

On the WIKI article it i stated that SONY is already using:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-illuminated_sensor

Stacked CMOS
In January 2012, Sony developed the back-side illuminated sensor further with Stacked CMOS, where the supporting circuitry is moved below the active pixel section, giving another 30% improvement to light capturing capability.[10] This was commercialized by Sony in August 2012 as Exmor RS with resolutions of 13 and 8 effective megapixels.[11] Products are expected in 2013.

I wonder what happens with Canon?
So far as we also know from http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/10/is-canon-eos-1s-the-name-cr1/:

There was also another mention of superior low ISO performance from the sensor. New technology will be introduced in this camera and will set the stage for sensor development over the next 2-3 years.

But does it mean that Canon glass owners have to wait until 2015 until they get a body for mortals with implemented low-light technology for less than $3k?

Additional info on that is also in article: http://www.canonrumors.com/2011/07/canon-3-layer-sensor-foveon-type-patent/

And yet nothing new in late 2012 or 2013...

What do you think. Any new info? Speculations?

14

Technical Support / DSLR images and resources needed

« on: December 18, 2012, 01:52:59 PM »

Hello everyone,

I need assistance.

Where do all these patents stuff comes from? Does anyone know? I need pictures and schematics? Like these:
http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/12/canon-ef-14-24-f2-8l-in-late-2013-cr2/


Additionally something like these:
http://3.static.img-dpreview.com/reviews/OlympusEP1/images/MicroFourThirdsDiag2-001.jpg?v=1570

http://www.photoreview.com.au/var/photoreview/storage/images/media/images/eos-m_vs_eos-thickness/306259-1-eng-GB/eos-m_vs_eos-thickness_reference.jpg

And these:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13580_3-9763957-39.html

Thank you in advance for your help.

15

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Just some sample shots taken with my new 1D X in lowlight

« on: November 18, 2012, 04:58:45 PM »

Very nice. Thank you!