I just watched a video by the fro knows just the other day... and then I pick him out of the picture without even reading the last about playing where's waldo.
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Do any of y'all shoot the 85 L in a studio setting with a solid color background. Other than the blurring of the nose and face, it seems like it would be a waste.
I never shoot in studio so I love this lens because with the subject isolation it can turn any environment into a "studio." Obviously shooting in a real studio with a solid backdrop you don't have cool/interesting bokeh to look at so you probably don't need that much subject isolation. It is an expensive lens but I still wouldn't say it is a waste to use it for studio. The thing is pretty ridiculously sharp (although I've hear really good things about the 1.8 versions as well, especially at smaller aperatures). I really like the way this lens renders colors and tones as well. Definitely expensive, but worth it in my opinion. I've also heard the 85 1.8 has some pretty bad purple fringing.
Review or infomercial?
DXO can score this however they want, but when they say things like this: "The new Otus 85mm is without question the most desirable and best performing 85mm portrait lens available" I have no desire to continue reading what they are selling.We did shoot f1.4 portraits back in the old days, where no AF was available. I had the first 50mm f1.2L lens and have lots of good shots with it, wide open.
What are they smoking? I still haven't figured out what use case there is for this lens. You can't hand hold this lens for closer portraits wide open. You can't. Not while focusing manually.
What am I missing? Why is this the Most Desirable and Best performing 85mm?
A major part of being a photographer then was to practice your manual focusing skills. People were also shooting all kinds of sports and wildlife at the time. Very few (if any) shot f1.4 though, but you still had to handle the movement issues. So adding a precision focusing screen to your camera (I use Ec-S on my 1DX), you can clearly shoot portraits handheld with this lens. But you have to practice quite a bit to master it. If you pick up these manual lenses only once every now and then, I agree, you will not make it. I have lots of close portraits taken with the Otus 55mm at f1.4 (and the Zeiss 135mm at f2.0), where focus is exactly where I want it, so I imagine I will be able to do it with the 85mm also.
So are you saying that a well practiced manual focusing photographer could use this lens as an effective portrait lens in close quarters wide open? What do you think the keeper rate would be hand held? What percentage of those keepers would use to the fullest extent this very expensive glass? I think it would be disappointingly low.
One of the first posts here had a link to some real world examples, I even went to the flickr site referenced. Guess what? No portraits. Some beautiful photos, but no portraits.
In the past photographers practiced their manual focusing. Nowdays it is the videographers out trying to perfect this skill.
I agree that this lens could have a place, but my real gripe was with DXO, who doesn't seem to understand the lens other than by its stats.
Shooting portraits wide open manually is not quite as hard as you think, particularly since Zeiss lenses do have focus confirm (which is pretty accurate). It takes some practice, yes, but better a manual focus lens than one with erratic AF.
Then go to Auction sniper.
And that is what sucks about Ebay these days.
I don't even bid any more. If it has a buy it now price and the price is reasonable to me, I buy it outright.
It used to be fun and effective to bid on Ebay, but these programs killed that.
So I've been losing every auction... que sera sera... but there are very few Sunsui (or whatever) available... so I will probably wind up with a Manfrotto... so I guess that's a plus. I could have used it tonight... night shooting @ an amusement park, some long exposures... and an f/2.8 lens. bleh.
Check the values that they actually sell for by looking at completed auctions. Use that to set your bid price.
Then go to Auction sniper. It will place your bid about 5 seconds before the auction ends. This eliminates bidding wars and the urge to beat the other guy, which only runs up the price. either you win, or you don't, but no one else even knows you exist to place a bid, it just happens a few seconds before a auction closes.
I've done this for years, and when I set a reasonable bid price, I win a fair percentage and only lose when there is a bidding war going on.
You can set Auction sniper to bid on multiple auctions and stop when you win one.
I don't sell it, but I use it. They do charge a very small amount, but only if you win.