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Canon General / Re: 5 Reasons you Need a 50mm Prime
« on: April 18, 2014, 09:32:16 AM »
Sorry but that's a crap list. Everything outside of the weight is just prime talk not a 50 special. Weight is just pure nonsense: contradictory with the "lose calories", splitting airs in tenth of gramms (please shoot a big white and see that 100 grams don't matter) and partial (hello tiny 40mm). And the last point is just written high on something.

This is a message of the 35/85 liberation front.

There is no photographer.  A real photographer sorts through his photos, tosses the duds, and only processes the best shots....

Film era at the rescue.
Cartier Bresson wasn't developping himself BUT working closely to have his view respected (the no crop millimeter)
Gary Winogarnd died with 2500 rolls undevelopped. Never sorted any.

For the rest the widlife trigger parabol does the trick.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Dissuade me to get a Rolleiflex
« on: April 16, 2014, 11:01:31 PM »
I'm lost in South west China but thanks for the proposal.
As someone from China, I can tell you that HK is the place to go if you want more options and much cheaper prices.

From what I saw in my previous trips, HK is not really that much cheaper for vintage gear. For new stuff sure. But there is for sure more choice. Which is kind of not relevant as the exact model I wished pop'd up (minty 2.8F Planar with meter).
I'll hit the shop on Saturday for more details and start the nego. 14K CNY as first asking price to a laowai tells me I can go down to 12k without difficulty (and that's even before chatting accessories and suchs...I want the damn original box! Was theremanual in chinese? :P). If all the mechanical tests are right, anything 12k and under is a decent price even for the US or EUR. (specially since CNY is "tanking" versus EUR recently :D)

Actually one thing that would make me not pull the trigger is the announcement of a full frame Fuji X100s :D
From one extreme to the other............ ::)

Hehe true but outside of politics, I like the extremes :) But outside of the prevention of spray and pray by the Rollei, some points are valid (ligthweight, force to be creative thru single lens, discreet). Rollei also adds the ice breaker element, the collector/resale factor and the film (that will partialy be a chore, I know)
Actually I'm not even sure it would prevent me to buy both as the lightweight combo might be awesome with Fuji for fast action and Rollei for quiet "meditative" shooting. Now that is bad GAS :P

But one way I tend to think about cost when I'm thinking about buying something is on per use basis. So if it's something that I'm going to use all the time, I tend to be willing to spend more money --often a lot more money – than if it something I'll use rarely or only on occasion.
Thanks for the very zen input. I did cut your quote as this part is the central difference. I think in term of costs but not upfront, more long term. Picking up such a camera (with good appraisal of the quality) is like picking up a 200 2.0L for 3K in mint condition. Even if you never use it, as long as you don't break it, you can resell it for the same amout or more...The only cost is actual use (specially with film) and the "lost interests" of the bank account. If I ever need some cash back, it'll go back on the market. With the same idea, that's was I was more reluctant to shell out for body than for glass.

Lenses / Re: Canon 50L - Love or Hate?
« on: April 16, 2014, 10:15:45 PM »
1. The poll is missing "not caring" option, as in "35+85 only". Even though 50 is dominant, I still think I'm not alone around here :P

2. I'm very curious after reading those 50L/Sigma topics. Many of you are putting the 85L in the same bag as the 50L. But my 85 is very sharp and the various reviews also point out at quite some difference between the two...

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Give me reasons to by the 200 f/2
« on: April 16, 2014, 10:10:15 PM »
That's on the short list of lens I want to try...but not buy as, an amateur, I could never justify the 6k.

Others will speak about the comparison with teleconverter but I want to point out that, as a professionnal, you can make the expense worth it, especially if your average clientiele is able to see/understand, not only in the pictures but also during the shooting, that you use top class gear.

Short version: if you are already in the upper or upper middle market, the cost will be absorbed partly as public relation (or cred) bonus.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Dissuade me to get a Rolleiflex
« on: April 16, 2014, 06:30:35 AM »
They're really quite nice and have the advantage of interchangeable lenses.

Nice attempt but I'm a fixed lens weirdo for that kind of 100% leisure shooting stuff.

Actually one thing that would make me not pull the trigger is the announcement of a full frame Fuji X100s :D

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Dissuade me to get a Rolleiflex
« on: April 16, 2014, 12:46:25 AM »
Thanks all for the advices. I'm manage to refrain myself for now but I'll probably hit the store soon for more details and start negociation.

I can send pictures if you are interested. Where are you based?
I'm lost in South west China but thanks for the proposal. Actually the place also matters in the price. I'm sure I could shave a couple hundred easily on the price if I was in the US or EUR. But I don't want to buy online (test + risks of shipping) so there is a probablepremium of buying in such a remote place. I might make a trip to HK soon too.

People here are more into practical photography and 2300$ could buy some nice new and shiny lens with a red ring around it. And they will be as right as you'll be if you buy the Flex. The question is what will bring YOU more joy??? Only you can answer it.
I'm pretty much set on my kit as I don't do birds. Outside of photo, only travel could rival as an expense but I'm on the cheap side for that. But as I said that one of the "cons"

PS.: As a side question: except of the obvious advantage of the Medium Format resolution (is it really equivalent to 60 Mega pixel picture?) is there any advantage to the film (35mm or other) over a full frame DSLR (which I can't compare to)?

Maybe it's propaganda but from what I saw DR is waaaaaayyy better than anything digtal when you shoot B+W. Even on a lubitel.

Why don't you have a look for a Yashicamat 124G instead of the Rolleiflex? Pretty much the same sort of spec and quality, but a whole lot cheaper. If you don't need a TLR, have a look for a decent folder - Agfa Isolette, Franka Solida, Baldix, or like the one I got last week, a Kershaw 450, which only cost me £40 :)
TLR is Superior due to no Mirror clapping. First because of non existant IS but also for noise issues.
I'll think about the Yashicat. But I'm in the "resell value" approach so it might be less advantageous.

Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 15, 2014, 09:46:11 PM »
I suppose it is time for me to drop out of this conversation... I just bought an 85L mkii... so... I guess the 50mm sigma wasn't meant to be.

Grats on the awesomest piece of loot from the Canon cave. But if you really want a sigma you can always join the 35/85 club ;)

Lenses / Re: New 50mm Sigma ? There are other options !
« on: April 15, 2014, 09:44:34 PM »
I'm with Dylan & Viggo on this one.  If you have the means and photography is your passion, there's nothing "wrong" with owning nice gear, just as there's nothing wrong with the new Sigma 50 or the 35 f/2 IS.

Its a mighty unfortunate waste of talent and kit. And a real shame that talent and kit is not being enjoyed by more people - photography is best when shared ;)

Well actually you could see it the other way around. Not relying on photography for income free up creativity but also the will to share. I don't have any other pretense than to share my foreigner view on "true China" (suburban/rural but not touristy cliché) so I can just "give them away" for viewing and sharing as long as it doesn't cost me anymore money than my gear did.

With no responsability comes great power ;)

Lenses / Re: Which lens to go with
« on: April 07, 2014, 09:46:36 AM »
Please use more conditional. To each his own. 5d3 gripped + 2.8 II IS is fine by me and I' m totally not athletic. Add the x2 converter and yeah I can' t last very long.

The weight issue of the 2.8 is overstated by some. (Don' t see a value judgment please.) Just try it out.

Canon General / Re: 20 Signs You Might be a Photography Addict
« on: April 07, 2014, 09:10:26 AM »
21. Poor F choices, lighting, post processing (and so forth) ruin your p0rn viewing moments.

Photography Technique / Re: Help on what to bring to Krabi...
« on: April 07, 2014, 02:19:20 AM »
Even tho we can discuss the style, I kinda agree with Texas about those topics.

All of them could be answered with 16-35 24-70II and 70-200II. What place in the world wouldn't be covered with those?

Then it's just a very personnal questions about style of shooting, finances (but then again the upgrade/budget path is pretty clear with canon gear), taste for primes (extremely subjective) and tolerance to weight carrying (once again so subjective, some poeple have a 70-200 f4 limit, some other are Surapon style supermen).

I also tend to think that people (who are not newbs) with this kind of issues could rethink their kits to check out for redundancy/inadequacy.

To be productive cristicm: we could have a travel section where people post where they go and could receive advice from local CRers or forumers with experience or interest for the place. This way non interested people like Texas wouldn't have to click on those threads they don't want to see :P

But in one word: Enjoy Thailand. I hadn't had the chance yet so I'll envy you. Show us some pics!

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Dissuade me to get a Rolleiflex
« on: April 06, 2014, 10:34:30 PM »
Dear Grumbaki: You've not really said why you might want this camera, but you did ask us to dissuade you.

Since I don't know why you want the camera or what you want to do with it, I'll just ask you: What else could you do with $2300?

Another way to think about it is: What aren't you going to be able to do if you spend $2300 on this particular camera?

Dear Vivid, your first question is one of the good point in the con side. That amount can be spend on a trip with my modern gear. I'm Lucky (and working my ass off) enough so that the second one is not that relevant. But yeah, 2300 could be used up for something else...but not in the bank.

As to the why this camera:
- I really love the "whole format", the "belly shooting".
- Film can be a pain but the restraint it imposes usually make me a better photographer. I think I already posted about my outings with a 1Gb CF (13 exposures on a 5d3 shooting full raw) and the lcd blackened out to emulate the case.
- Native Square. Personnal taste for compositon.
- It's not like there is an option for medium format shooting around 2k USD. Replicas are generally toys in term of output. This one (and the Hassels like 500C I had the chance to try out...but Im more a TLR guy) have very good outputs even in our digital area. Those modern medium format are, to my knowledge, the only option for belly shooting and they are around what? 10K?
- Except if I truly mishandle it, there is little chance of loosing much value if I purchase smartly. This is not an investment but not a perishable item like our dslr.
- Pure admiration for engineering/craftmanship. That point is kinda moot but that stuff is a piece of beauty like watches or old cars can be. I mean... hand polished lenses...!
- Ice breaker. That's mentionned in every review and I could notice it with the Hasselblad. Poeple are weary of DSLR but they are drawn to those pieces of curio or nostalgia. (except the unavoidable grumpy photog that think you should leave it in a museum).

Writing all those explanations doesnt really help as your point and the fact that I don't have much time to shoot are the only 2 points on the con side.

Any debunking of my pros? :P

(I know this is a weird GAS thread...thanks for the answers!)

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Should I buy 6d or 5MkIII?
« on: April 06, 2014, 10:09:00 PM »
I understand tilt shifts... I don't understand... or should I say... I don't share the interest/draw that people have for it.

To have architecture shots that don't look like laws of physics are turned off?

If you only do rural stuff then there is no point but for cityscapes of skyscraper, with little ability to shoot from (very) far or to fly (or find a vantage point) then TSE is the key...

Lenses / Re: Which lens to go with
« on: April 06, 2014, 10:05:05 PM »
V2 vs V1 makes the whole point easy IMHO. Get the F4 V2.

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