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I did a bar crawl with a 50mm 1.4, 6D (very similar ISO performance to 5D3, maybe a tad better), and a monopod, with no external light source. Generally was close to wide open on aperture, 1/50 on shutter, and ISO wherever it needed to be for good exposure (generally multiples of 160). I didn't even bring my zooms because I needed to be extremely mobile and they were too slow, plus stylistically I was ok with shooting 50mm all night.

The person who said you can ignore the 160 rule is not correct if you want the cleanest looking footage possible, especially at lower ISOs and extremely high ISOs. The difference is massive in low-light scenarios. The best values, in order, are 160 - 320 - 640 - 1250 - 1600 - 2000 (weird, right?) - 2500 - 3200 - 5000. Once you get past these you're in inevitably noisy territory, but on the 6D (and I believe on your 5D3 as well) shooting 5000 will shoot a little cleaner than 100, and much cleaner than 125.

50mm was naturally too wide in some situations and too long in others, but I would do this exact same setup again in a heartbeat. As somebody else mentioned, a more versatile setup may be adding a LED light and using the zooms, but I thought I'd share my experience with a similar shoot.

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PowerShot / Re: PowerShot Announcements Tonight [CR3]
« on: August 21, 2013, 04:09:25 PM »
I'm happy to see 1080p60 on Canon cameras, even if it's the PowerShots. I think there's an interest out there to start shooting things at higher frame rates (I know I'm interested). Can't wait until more DSLRs get that feature. Can't quite justify getting a 1DC at the moment :D

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I've also used it during event photography to transfer a shot to my iPhone for quick editing in iPhoto so that I can upload it to the event's Facebook page.

Thanks for the sample usage scenarios, but it is undisputed that wifi is useful for quick uploads - I'm wondering specifically about the remote control/shoot part that has received a lot of marketing hype, is it really being used regularly after the first "well, I can do this and that" experiments?

I'm not sure what the marketing hype is, but the ways I listed before are the ways I personally use it. Like I said, I don't use it often, in the same way I don't use a remote trigger often. Occasionally, though, I'll run into a situation where it will help me out so I use it (maybe once a month or so). I don't shoot wildlife so I can't specifically speak for that. It's a good feature to have and very helpful for those random moments when you need it, but I wouldn't expect it to completely change somebody's shooting style or be used every day.

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I don't use it often, but I end up using it for a few different things. If I've set the framing of a scene and need to adjust lighting by myself I can do it without constantly running back to the camera. I occasionally use it just to remote trigger. I also sometimes need to cram my camera somewhere that makes it hard or impossible to see the LCD, and this lets me frame it up in those situations. I've also used it during event photography to transfer a shot to my iPhone for quick editing in iPhoto so that I can upload it to the event's Facebook page.

Sure I could get by without it, but it allows me to do things that would have been difficult, time consuming, or impossible otherwise, especially when working without an assistant.

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Software & Accessories / Re: External HDD for backups
« on: July 31, 2013, 02:45:30 PM »
I just bought WD My Book 4TB External Hard Drive Storage. Today, it will be used on a USB2 PC, and later, a USB3. After I move the images, I plan to get a Carbonite account, the one that backs up external drives. I'm guessing a new backup of an external drive with ~500GB of images, will day a few days, depending on fast Comcast's upload speed is that day(s)

I don't want to discourage you from using Carbonite, because it's a great service to have, but you should know they throttle uploads to 2-3 GB a day (at least they did when I did my initial backup). It took me months to get my computer initially backed up, and that was less than 400GB of data.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: High noise at low ISO
« on: July 05, 2013, 03:44:37 PM »
I agree with everybody else here. Because of the way Canon pushes and pulls ISOs, the multiples of 160 are the cleanest, then 100, then 125. For instance, on the 6D and 5D3 you can shoot ISO 6400 and have it be cleaner than ISO 125. Check out this video for reference -- it's for the 6D but should hold true for the 5D3: https://vimeo.com/55543194

Blew my mind when I saw those results.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Video Noise - Does this look right?
« on: July 05, 2013, 03:38:13 PM »
I use a 6D all the time (not a 5D3) but they should have similar noise performance in video mode. I can't imagine seeing that much noise on my 6D until I had passed 5000 or so.

That being said, if you are using Flaat_11 or Flaat_12 you'll definitely get a ton of noise in the shadows and mids. I don't shoot anything flatter than Flaat_10 on my 6D except in extreme circumstances because the amount of noise kills me and I often can't get it back in post. Flaat_11 is noisy, Flaat_12 is just plain gross no matter what you do. It's not the camera, it's the amount those profiles push the levels. I would love to have 12 stops of dynamic range in my video shots, but not if the noise is that pronounced.

So I guess what I'm trying to ask is, what exact picture profile were you using?

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I also do not consider the 6D an upgrade to the MkII; the controls and build are definitely not of the same standard even though it does accept different focus screens.

So my suggestion is to use a 5D MkII !!

Sounds like you've never handled a 6D in person. I upgraded from a 5D2 to the 6D and have no regrets. It is nice having the joystick being right next to my thumb for AF point selection but if you do MF it doesn't matter anyway (the d-pad on the 6D works just fine for everything else).

Also, the build quality of the 6D is definitely of the same standard as the 5D2. Made out of the exact same magnesium alloy and feels every bit as tough and solid.

And let's not forget the fact that the 6D can produce useable images at 12800 ISO. Try that with a 5D2. ISO performance is worth the additional cost alone (if there even is any additional cost to the 6D at this point).

FWIW, the 6D does have a few weaknesses (1/4000 max shutter speed, 1/180s flash sync speed, no PC port) but it's still better than the 5D2 in almost every way.

I handled one last weekend, and sorry but I disagree strongly - the buttons feel a lot less sturdy and I dislike the controls being in the wheel on the back. The body is an all together cheaper affair IMHO despite the more ergonomic shape. I prefer the build of a 5DMkII, 7D or 5D MkIII.

ISO performance-wise you may be right, but I rarely exceed ISO 3200 ;)

+1. I have a 5D2 and a 6D in my bag, and I never mistake one for the other. The 5D is a brick; I very much believe it could take more punishment than the 6D. The 6D doesn't feel cheap or weak, but it certainly isn't as much of a beast as the 5D2. That being said, the weight difference makes it easier to use on long shoots.

Wildfire is spot on as far as IQ though. I prefer the 6D and only bring out the 5D2 for a backup camera, especially in low light!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D or 5D MKII - Which is Better for Video?
« on: April 15, 2013, 08:54:23 AM »
I have both in my bag, and the 6D is the one I pull out more often for video. Generally they're very similar aesthetically until you need higher ISO levels, at which point the 6D is far and away the better camera. 6D also can auto-split files up to 30min of recording, while the 5D stops at the 4GB mark (around 12 minutes). The only consideration for getting the 5DMkII over the 6D (for video) would be if you need Magic Lantern functionality, which is available on the MkII but not on the 6D (yet).

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Landscape / Re: How Would You Edit This Landscape Photo?
« on: March 07, 2013, 08:58:04 PM »
Here's mine, just done in Adobe Camera Raw. Anybody wants the xmp sidecar file just let me know. Not even remotely realistic, but DAT COLOR SATURATION. AWW YISSSS.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Which external mic for Canon DSLR?
« on: February 20, 2013, 07:09:13 AM »
The RODE does a pretty good job in my experience.  If you want super clean audio, you will need an off camera source.  Take a look at my video equipment page and let me know if you have questions.  The Zoom h1n's are really good for off camera audio.

http://www.brovadoweddings.com/blog/equipment/

Do you use the Rode into one of those external recorders? Because I'm not being picky about the sound quality, my experience with 6 different cameras and 3 mics is that the internal mic gives a better result for speach, MUCH better.

How diffcult is it and in what software do you sync the sound when using an external recorder like that h4n?

No, the RODE always goes into camera. We always have at LEAST 2 sources of audio. Sometimes 3. Use Plural eyes for Syncing Audio. Putting the RODE on a h4n would probably reduce audio quality.

http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/04/nab-2012-singular-software-pluraleyes/

Any microphone plugged into the DSLR instead of an external recorder will degrade sound quality significantly. Sometimes it's more useful in a workflow to have a shotgun mic going into the DSLR directly (at the expense of quality), but plugging into an external recorder will improve audio quality, not reduce it.

(edit) Depending on what type of sound you need, directional vs a stereo spread, the video mic may not sound as good for your purpose as the external recorder's mics. Any mic will sound better in an external recorder and worse in the DSLR, but if you need a stereo spread a videomic won't be as good of a choice as the built in mics on the recorder.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 6D Anti-Aliasing Filter
« on: February 08, 2013, 09:01:42 PM »
The 5D3 is, when cropped from 3:2 to 16:9, is essentially a QFHD sensor -- exactly 4 times the size of standard 1080p HD. The reason it looks good in 1080p mode is because the camera only has to combine 4 pixels into a single pixel (pixel binning). This is the exact same thing the C300 does to look so good. The 1DX has a smaller sensor that isn't a simple multiple, but it has very powerful processors to downsample in a high quality way. The 6D has a smaller sensor but doesn't have the processing power to downsample correctly (presumably) so Canon just throws out various lines to create the smaller image. It's less processor intensive but results in interference patterns. That's why the 5D3 looks great with moire, the 1DX looks almost as good, and the 6D still has the same problems that the 5D2 had.

If it turns out that the processor is strong enough to downsample properly, it could possibly be adjusted in a firmware update that rewrites the downsampling algorithm. Is it likely that Canon will do that? I'm not counting on it.
Spot on, except the 22mp 5D3 has 3 times the horizontal resolution and 3 times the vertical resolution of 1080p, so it combines 9 sensor pixels to make every one video pixel.

Yes! How embarrassing! I've been saying it's 2x2 binning (like the C300 does) instead of 3x3 binning in a few posts. Thanks for the correction! But if anybody's wondering, the logic still stands. Evenly combining those 9 pixels instead of skipping various lines is a much better way to downsample, and leads to much less moire.

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Reviews / Re: Why I Chose a Canon EOS 6D over a 5D MKIII
« on: February 08, 2013, 03:25:27 PM »
I have a 6D and a 5D2 in my kit right now as well. The photo quality on the 6D constantly astounds me, especially the noise performance like you mentioned on your site. It's also worth mentioning that the 6D has a much softer shutter sound than the 5D series. For a lot of people, the reduced shutter sound is very beneficial when shooting in quieter situations where you don't want to be a distraction.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 6D Anti-Aliasing Filter
« on: February 08, 2013, 12:55:35 PM »
The 5D3 is, when cropped from 3:2 to 16:9, is essentially a QFHD sensor -- exactly 4 times the size of standard 1080p HD. The reason it looks good in 1080p mode is because the camera only has to combine 4 pixels into a single pixel (pixel binning). This is the exact same thing the C300 does to look so good. The 1DX has a smaller sensor that isn't a simple multiple, but it has very powerful processors to downsample in a high quality way. The 6D has a smaller sensor but doesn't have the processing power to downsample correctly (presumably) so Canon just throws out various lines to create the smaller image. It's less processor intensive but results in interference patterns. That's why the 5D3 looks great with moire, the 1DX looks almost as good, and the 6D still has the same problems that the 5D2 had.

If it turns out that the processor is strong enough to downsample properly, it could possibly be adjusted in a firmware update that rewrites the downsampling algorithm. Is it likely that Canon will do that? I'm not counting on it.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 6D not usable for shooting video?
« on: February 04, 2013, 02:25:40 PM »
A 5dm3 wont suddenly make you a far better cinematographer than you were before (or if you have a 6d), but you sure won't have the same kind of moire issues you do with any other Canon DSLR (except a 1DX).

The 5D3 has a sensor purpose-built to downscale. It has a horizontal resolution of 3840, which is exactly twice the size of 1080p HD. Once the sensor is cropped for video it's essentially a QFHD sensor being downscaled to 1080p -- no problem.

The 1DX seems to downscale with its beefy processors, which could be why the video seems to look a little sharper but also has faint moire.

The 6D (and all the other Canon DSLRs right now) have neither the right sensor resolution nor a strong enough processor (apparently) to downscale well, so they just take the easy way out and line-skip, causing interference patterns. I would love for Canon (or ML) to do some firmware magic to make it downscale better, but I wouldn't count on it.

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