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I have a 6D + 28mm 1.8. I want to improve my ISO when taking shots indoor.
I am really looking at 270ex II,. I can't find any real review with sample images.

Will this flash improved my ISO settings from 12800 to like 4000 or less?
Is ETTL performance good?

My usual settings are: Av Mode, Auto ISO, 1/60 min shutter speed.

I shoot portrait or people in groups.

Can anyone share sample group shots taken with 270ex II?

ps. please don't suggest higher model first, since I want to know if 270ex will work or not first.
If really I am convinced that 270 ex will not work, then I will find alternative.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: In-camera noise reduction
« on: March 14, 2013, 11:54:14 PM »
As you said, "No other form of in-camera NR is applied to the RAW"

(I am new in DPP.)

But in DPP, When you convert images from raw,
it will AUTOMATICALLY APPLY Noise Reduction as set in the tool palette.
even without clicking the apply button before hand. Am I right?

Under preference->tool palette tab-> Default Noise Reduction Setting
. When set to Apply Camera Settings,

Can anyone explain how the NR settings is affected, according to Camera Setting?
In this context does Camera settings refer to NR setting inside the camera or does it has more complex algorithm taking ISO and other parameters into account?

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Can't they make 28mm F1.4
« on: February 27, 2013, 12:02:01 AM »
I am sorry, but I love 28mm.
not to wide, not too narrow.

If i want 35 or 50mm point of view. I can just crop it.
cropping is totally fine with me.

But I still want what F1.4 Depth of field could give.
I find 35mm still narrow for my liking and style.

I have Canon 28mm 1.8 + 6D with me.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon Announces the Canon EOS 6D DSLR
« on: February 20, 2013, 11:17:47 PM »
I also got a 6D. I am an amateur.
I only like good IQ and depth of field only full frame can give.

With Canon, I get these bonuses: good low light, lighter, and I like the body lay out more.
What could I ask more.

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Thanks. Will try it.

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Mirror output capability.

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Thanks. So I did testing what's the optimize aperture, and found out that sharpness at F2.8 is not far from F5.6.
but at less than F2.8, edges looks far less sharp.

I am using EF 28mm F1.8.
My Default setting will be:
. M mode
. F2.8
. 1/60
. Auto ISO up to 6400

I will always shoot at standard exposure and RAW only.

If I want to increase DOF then I push to F4 to F8 max.
If I want to freeze motion then I push to 1/125.
If I want to increase exposure then
    . decrease shutter speed to 1/45
    . or push ISO up to 8000 to 10k Max
    . or enlarge aperture up to 1.8.

In extreme Low light then
    . decrease shutter speed up to 1/30
    . max out aperture to 1.8
    . Increase ISO as necessary.

Which one is better? increase ISO from 6400 to 10k or push aperture to F1.8.

// I want to add that, standard exposure at higher ISO is better than underexpose at lower ISO.
// As a results of my testing: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/soa2ndbnr51gpbr/G2F5D3oJh-

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After doing some testing.
using 6D + 28mm F1.8, I can go as low as 1/45 shutter speed and still avoid camera shake.
at 1/30, i get 50% passing rate.

With the new 28mm IS i wonder how low I can go.

Also, I am satisfied with 8000 ISO for my normal low light shots.
Higher than 8000 I can consider not clean after NR.

and learn that to increase ISO with standard exposure is better than going underexpose.

See below for High ISO performance of 6D up to H2 (102400) ISO:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/soa2ndbnr51gpbr/G2F5D3oJh-

Note: see the filename for details of the shots. n0 means center exposure, n1 means 1 stop under expose.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Help needed: Very slow live-view @ Canon 6D
« on: January 25, 2013, 06:50:03 PM »
Coming from a powershot, I al again.so notice 6D Liveview.
Focus drives walks very slow back n forth taking very small step,
i have a hard time pressing, its either i accidentally completely press the shutter or release it without focusing, then i need to restart focusing again.

one work around is to use back button focus,
at the same time use Manual focus n zoom in on the subject.

Is there any explanation to why point n shoot autofocus is faster?


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Thanks for all the inputs.
I really don't have time or should I say lazy on comparing each settings of 6D.
Using 6D, I have used Av mode since.

This is what I will do, i will shoot in manual mode and set the following for normal shots:
Set shutter speed to 1/60, aperture to 5.6, ISO set to minimum or less than 8000.
I will push shutter speed as low as 1/15 and see if I can manage the shake.
I will push aperture until F2.0 and will expect capture still sharp.

After knowing the min shutter speed and minimum aperture i desire.
I will play with 128 and 256, checked noise and details. Then I will know, what dark is dark for this camera.
I will post as soon as I get something.

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The lighting for the Hulk shots wasn't very bright. Actually, it was fairly dimly lit. I agree that you'll get different noise and color banding patterns in different lighting conditions, so no tests or photos online are going to show you how your photos are going to turn out. The point is how much (or little) noise you are getting at these high ISO settings, and there aren't many systems out there that can touch the ISO noise performance of the current Canon FF cameras.

Thanks, I understand that.
When did you get your mark iii?
I will be glad if you can share more 128 and 256 ISO pictures showing noise and details performance.
I will post too, if I have something to show.

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Regarding high ISO hulk shots above. For me, it is not the best way to show quality of High ISO by these examples. With these lighting, you already get good exposure at 6400, that means, with the same lighting on higher ISO, All parts of the image is within the limit of ISO sensor bucket if you will.

Its a different scenario where in, you are in dark places, then even at 25600 ISO, u still get 1/2 stop underexpose image.

I am an amateur with less than a month experience on DSLR.
What I am saying is, for me, you can not gauge ISO performance in well lighted conditions, also,
the subject in your example is too big and maybe detail less in the first place.

I have not intelligently shoot my 6D yet, unlike my G12, I know its peak.
Hopefully soon, I will know its peak performance.. and see what peak is peak.

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I am using EF 28mm 1.8. As per the sales guy, this is the last piece in stock from Canon.
I don't know if they mean, they stop producing this lens already.

ISO:
From given type of camera and different type of user, I want to learn how they approach in setting their
ISO and aperture. Depending on the results they want, some users (photographers) will push ISO just to capture the scene (Scene dependent). Others like me, most of the time, if pushing the ISO will turn out grainy, then find another way as much as possible.

Aperture:
I came from a G12, and I develop the habit that to shoot at wide aperture as much as possible, because thats the only available advantage using G12.
For a given lens, I want to learn how different user approach to setting their aperture.

Because I am happy to learn from user opinion than from charts.
and I want to use similar approach, from few users.

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Thanks guys, really appreciate it.
It will save me a lot of testing, I can only shoot when weekends,
I'm new shooting RAW, I am still getting used to on my workflow.
These inputs will save me precious time and precious pictures.

Additional quick question: What aperture you normally use? when you dont intend bokeh.

Again, I am used to with my G12, I always shoot at maximum at 2.8.
So when I got the 6D, its 2nd nature to me to shoot < 2.8.

So i want to know your side guys.
My current lens is 28mm F1.8

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Up to what ISO are you willing to set?
« on: January 23, 2013, 06:11:07 AM »
As low as possible...as fast as necessary!

Bingo. You word this much better than me...

I understand, I'm already there.
But, I am referring to a limit/situation where you say, I can not push ISO anymore else it would be too noisy.

In low light fast means in the range of 15th - 60th.
In what shutter speed can you say, I can not get low anymore, else there would definitely camera shake.

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