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Lenses / Re: New Rebel & EF 11-24 f/4L USM Coming Shortly
« on: January 16, 2015, 01:01:38 AM »
Alleged 11-24mm lens, that is in the extreme lens category and probably will be as popular as 8-15mm, is a nice distraction from yet another 18MP sensor Rebel.

So are the seemingly generous new additions like the wheel and top monitor which alone without better AF and bump in FPS won't directly compete with 70D sales... Not much more for what I see it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 5D Mark III Replacement Talk [CR2]
« on: January 09, 2015, 11:28:36 PM »
This may be a bit off topic, but only at first glance. I really like to address loyal Canon defenders on this forum, and we all know who they are, usually they have over several thousands posts and are sometimes showing up on other forums just to out of blue state that canon is the only king on the planet.
Maybe they never ending campaign glorifying Canon generate some minuscule increase in sales, who knows? but in the long run I pray that Canon executives do not listen to them at all!
Please if you really love that Canon brand so much be clever enough to help Canon to understand that the emperor is sort of naked for some time now, please do not lull them to sleep with all that eloquent talk about superiority of the system over the quality of sensor, incredible selection of lenses (that can be and are successfully used on Sony cameras) etc, etc...
Canon is very strong corporation that will survive this small hick up, and sooner they realize the need to fix something the better we all will be including the 1Dx owners ;-)

I am 53 years old now, and waiting a decade for Canon to decide that it is a time to upgrade sensor is just unacceptable for me. That's why I am enjoying my beloved bit awkward A7r for some time now and pushing the envelopes the way I could never push with any of the current Canon cameras...
I hope this makes some sense to at least some of you :)

Lets hope that Canon once again is capable of philosophy that brought to life 5D Classic once upon a time...
Thank you.

It's nice that some people can tolerate using a camera they admit is awkward and be happy about that.  Tomorrow, I'll be out shooting raptors at the seashore for several hours.  Air temps will be in the teens and with wind chill it'll be about 0 °F (–18 °C).  Trying to operate an awkward little body with poorly designed controls wearing thick gloves as the AF fails to effectively track fast-moving subjects and the weak little battery tries to cope with the cold and maybe it will last long enough that the LCD and EVF black out from the low temps leaving me no way to even see the subject...yeah, a Sony a7R is just what I need to push some envelopes...

 ::)


To pick one aspect of a system for one use and to think that all should worship it is lunacy...

+1

Actually Neuro, I really wish to be there with you and compare the notes later;)
Regards, Zenon

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 5D Mark III Replacement Talk [CR2]
« on: January 09, 2015, 10:20:47 PM »
This may be a bit off topic, but only at first glance. I really like to address loyal Canon defenders on this forum, and we all know who they are, usually they have over several thousands posts and are sometimes showing up on other forums just to out of blue state that canon is the only king on the planet.
Maybe they never ending campaign glorifying Canon generate some minuscule increase in sales, who knows? but in the long run I pray that Canon executives do not listen to them at all!
Please if you really love that Canon brand so much be clever enough to help Canon to understand that the emperor is sort of naked for some time now, please do not lull them to sleep with all that eloquent talk about superiority of the system over the quality of sensor, incredible selection of lenses (that can be and are successfully used on Sony cameras) etc, etc...
Canon is very strong corporation that will survive this small hick up, and sooner they realize the need to fix something the better we all will be including the 1Dx owners ;-)

I am 53 years old now, and waiting a decade for Canon to decide that it is a time to upgrade sensor is just unacceptable for me. That's why I am enjoying my beloved bit awkward A7r for some time now and pushing the envelopes the way I could never push with any of the current Canon cameras...
I hope this makes some sense to at least some of you :)

Lets hope that Canon once again is capable of philosophy that brought to life 5D Classic once upon a time...
Thank you.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 5D Mark III Replacement Talk [CR2]
« on: January 09, 2015, 09:09:40 AM »
This is what, I don't understand, holding to 18-22 MP sensors for almost a decade and than over leap everybody else? What is the purpose of that? Just to exaggerate all the drawbacks of high MP camera? Why not just modest (?) 36-42MP with decent performance, like good buffer, writing speed, FPS etc? Users will fall hard on the reality of lens performance shortcomings, storage and time required to process the files.

Than the system of three models of the same camera suggests that Canon will most likely stick to the philosophy of overpricing for premium technology.
In the end sensor performance will really be the most important factor, if we get the same performance as to date just with double or triple the pixels, no thank you again Canon, I skipped buying Canon gear for few generations already (still keeping lenses), terrible Sony A7r suits me very well...

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 23, 2014, 08:49:49 AM »
WOW!
Please stop awarding Canon with human like attributes, Its A Corporation! Canon have no feelings, can not be sad, has no shame or any other feelings, unlike the small mom and pap corner stores killed by Walmart or thousand small farmers before that etc. Where were you than? What kind of culture is this that very intelligent adult humans spent time and resources to conduct crusades to glorify a brand name? Please go take some pictures with a CAMERA no matter what the logo and do something good for other human beings in the season of Thanksgiving instead.
Thank you and bless you all.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Sample Images From the EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 19, 2014, 09:38:28 AM »
Oh Lord, once again we rave about jpeg noise reduction algorithms...

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EOS Bodies / Re: How excited are you about the new 7D II?
« on: September 16, 2014, 09:57:36 AM »
2014 and brand new semi pro camera released with recycled (2006?) sensor design.
Just think what will happen to the value of 7Dll in another 5 years cycle just next spring when Sony is planning to announce whole new generation of sensors...

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Animal Kingdom / Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« on: September 01, 2014, 05:43:59 PM »
Thank you so much for your kindness... that's what for the expanded DR can be used for...

Canon 17-40 lens @17mm on other kind of camera.
WOW WOW WOW!

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Animal Kingdom / Re: BIRD IN FLIGHT ONLY -- share your BIF photos here
« on: September 01, 2014, 05:37:01 PM »
Canon 17-40 lens @17mm on other kind of camera.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Is Canon now two generations behind Nikon?
« on: August 29, 2014, 09:04:52 AM »
Blah, Blah, Blah... so empty just wonder how many times people are changing the personality and start posting again same bs as somebody else... Most interesting thing is that there is nothing really left in those fanboy statements just figure speeches, demagogy and sleek sarcasm! Start posting photographs, videos and charts to show that amazing performance of Canon LOL. Good luck silly people, looks like you have to do the same pathetic defensive propaganda dance for another year or two because its obvious that nothing will change anytime soon.

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Reviews / Re: Tony Northrup - D810 vs. 5D Mk3
« on: August 09, 2014, 08:17:38 AM »
Same here it is a painful chore to go through his videos all the way to the end, in my opinion she does not help much in the over all feel. Its like watching pretentious and annoying cutsy home videos of people we don't know or care about.
There is something about this guy, that makes me unable to watch any of this videos through. I honestly don't know what it is, and it has nothing to do with his brand preferences (the first video of his I watched was entirely Canon related, and I still couldn't get through it)...I think it's the way he talks. I dunno...just can't watch him.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: DXO uh-oh?
« on: July 30, 2014, 04:32:01 PM »
There has to be a very good reason for that, i assume but I think who does not know what happened, and was following the tread should be informed. Thanks.

Seems someones posts are missing from this thread, the entertainment is over  :'(

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: DXO uh-oh?
« on: July 29, 2014, 07:51:13 AM »
Very well said!

Being so articulate (that I never could, due to my language barrier), open about identity and professional credits, it really makes me sad that you have to be so apologetic just for trying to issue honest and polite critique of someone, is like you trying to critique a sensitive boss or teacher.
How many times did you said how smart Neuro is?
All that only shows the state of the affairs here on this site.
I was warned so many times for trying to say something that is just not with the current of this site that I have lost count, and I have just eighty something posts so far (few were deleted).
I think that anybody able to think clearly will agree with me that so called blind brand loyalty is in the end rather proof of poor ability to experience and perceive the world.
Anyway maybe it is better to obsessed about sensors superiority, and trying to figure out how to discredit "enemies" like DXO, than to do other things, like obsessing about people in personal life or coworkers.
Thank you for voicing your opinions!

I'm a long time reader, first time poster, but I have to address Neuro here.

I had the Canon D60, the D400, the 5D Mk1, 2, and the 3 for about 2 months till I decided that it was a huge disappointment after waiting 3 years for the successor to the wonderful Mk2.

I went to the D800 and spent 12 grand switching, and I never looked back. Crop modes, clean shadows and highlights and DR were the main attractions.

Images from my D800 look like drum scans from MF/LF film, and that's the first time I'd seen a digital camera hit that goal.

Neuro is a god here, and he's an intelligent guy, of that there is no mistake, but when it comes to the reality between Canon and everyone else, he abandons his normally cogent posts and reverts to fan boy mode.

I loved my Canon gear, and up until 2012 it was the best gear I could buy for my business without going MF.

The D800 killed anything Canon had as far as pure IQ went with the D800.

Is that even up for debate now as I await my D810 to arrive? Only here it seems.

I've found in 2 years of D800 use that DXO scores for the sensors are pretty much on the money from what I've observed by taking tens of thousand of Canon and Nikon photos.

The Mk2 sensor, that is maybe half my folio (www.deanagar.com.au) is scored accurately. It was great for 2008, no question. I loved that camera.

The DXO score for the D800 I'd have to agree with, as i would with the Mk3 which I had for a depressing 2 months when it was released. Soft video and the same old read noise that Canon can’t get rid of.

Ergonomically it was the best camera I'd ever owned, but IQ is what I'm after and I can take the loss of a rate button and, camera setting memories and nice menus to get the elusive film level IQ of the D800.

It makes the Mk2 and Mk3 look very average, and sometimes downright poor. Read noise, lack of recoverable highlights and shadows, and poor 100ISO performance are lacking in the Canon sensors.

Is there anyone on the planet that doesn't accept that as fact, except many people on here?

The reality of the camera industry has changed and Canon isn't even 2nd best when it comes to sensors anymore.

The best sensors are Sony, the 2nd best are Nikon designed/Sony made sensors, and I'm not sure Canon even come third anymore.

I'm sad about that, it cost me a lot of money to jump ship, but I deal with reality, not what I want reality to be.

I wanted Canon to release a sensor that could match the D800, and 28 months after I got the D800, that still hasn't happened.

I will say, I'm not a high ISO shooter, so limitations of the D800 don't worry me, but then if I had to shoot 3200-12800 for my pro work, I'd get a D4s, so Canon still don't get a look in for a Canon fan like myself.

Neuro is a very smart guy, his knowledge is amazing, but he has a blind spot and it's the kind of a blind spot a 16 year old fan boy has.

Canon are a great company, and have advanced digital photography more than any other company in the scheme of things, but they have lost their way, and in 2014, that hasn't changed yet.

Focus on product delineation by hobbling their stills cams to sell more of their video cams, and insisting on releasing the same old sensors in new bodies over and over and over has taken a lot of industry respect away from them, that’s for sure.

The 70D focus system? Stunning. That’s the canon of old. Shame it was added to the same old sensors with read noise and low DR. I’d love that on My Gh4 and D810, that’s for sure.

My professional photographer friends are jealous of the D800 and they haven't made the leap to Sony or Nikon because they have faith that Canon will deliver something that has 14-15 stops of DR, and no read noise, but so far, they are frustrated, and I have two years of photos with both while they lament the lack of sensor development at Canon.

So back to the good guy Neuro and DXO.

I don't give a flying toss how DXO arrive at their scores, they seem to back up my personal experience with Canon and Nikon, and everyone else i know using Canon and Nikon, which amounts to a lot of pro, APPA winners.

On my FB buddy list are the Australian Fashion Photographer of the Year, the Australian Commercial Photographer of the Year, and the Australian Nature and Science Photographer of the Year, so I’m in decent company, although I’m still only an APPA winner and not a category winner.

Yet :-)

I see people here ask what shots couldn’t be taken on a Canon. Well, I took a few shots in New Zealand that were handheld on my honeymoon that are good examples. I won Loupe awards and other awards and they couldn't have been taken on a 5D Mk3 without going to HDR techniques.

They were single frames on a D800.

http://www.deanagar.com.au/tag/landscape-photography-brisbane-gold-coast-new-zealand/

With over 14 stops at 100 ISO (14.8 at 32ISO on the D810 it would appear) that is the same as a 3 shot 1 stop bracketed 5D Mk3 shot. That’s a big difference for landscape photographer to get something in one shot that would take a Canon 3 bracketed shots.

I’m not even a pro landscape photographer. I’m a people photographer, and occasional commercial photographer, but all the advantages of the D800 apply to any photography really.

What am i trying to say in this long rambling post :-)

Neuro, you’re a smart guy and I read your insights with enthusiasm, except when it comes to Nikon/Canon.

A bit of an open, or even neutral, mind would benefit your standing when it comes to those types of posts.

I’ve shot with both, for around 7 years professionally, and I wouldn’t touch a Canon if I had the choice of a D800.

I can’t give up clean shadows and over 14 stops at 100 ISO, even if my heart is really with Canon due to my history with them.

I want them to blow everyone out of the water and deliver a killer high MP, hi DR sensor and give me my well missed rate button back.

But life goes on, and Canon have a following that means they are still the number one as far as sales go due to their reputation from prior to 2012, and I guess that won’t change for 2-3 years yet, so they have time to get it right.

But lets not deny reality.

If they don’t catch up, a good brand name is not going to last forever.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: A7r Arrived - Meeting New Buddies
« on: July 15, 2014, 08:02:37 PM »
Don't rush with your decisions and final verdict.
It took me some time to learn what I can get and how to use it to my satisfaction.
In my mind this is a poor man medium format camera for the moment, and I treat it like that.
Barely ever use Autofocus shooting super wide angle Canon lenses hyperfocus most of the time, which turns the SONY A7r in to fastest focusing camera in the industry ;-)
All the rewards come when I can push the envelope manipulating levels, lifting shadows, adjusting colors to my wildest desires without getting disgusting colorful vegetable soup like blotches and bandings in all colors (mainly red and purple) not only in the shadows :-)
I wont mention more obvious benefits like DR and resolution.
All boils down to what you need and what is useful for your type of photography.
Good Luck!

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Internet is buzzing with reviews, positive impressions about Sony, and all we got here is bitter, sarcastic ind smart ass comments without the end in sight.

Of course, what do you expect?

Lots of people here have spent thousands of dollars on what they consider to be A-grade photography equipment and don't take kindly to evidence that suggests that it isn't the best.

Okay, denial is really mature way to deal with facts, won't even bother looking for examples ;-)
If I was a true Canon fan like you guys are, I would be happy and appreciate what Sony is doing, because thanks to Sony people like me still hold on to the Canon Glass and that gives them extra time to catch up and don't lose customers, I can always get another Canon body when it will be worth my money to invest.
I hope you can agree at least with that.

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